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Is government funding so is public fund, some school will not allow her to do it, but i don't think home office will know expect you tell them, because the ones they will be able to trace are the public funds you provide your NI no for.sahi2015 wrote:Hi
I m going to apply my ILR in September this year with with my spouse from tier 1 general .
My wife came in UK in may 2011.she joined a assistant teacher course (STLS LEVEL 2 CERTIFICATE) last year through ADULT EDUCATION .
IN their (ADULT EDUCATION) enrolment form it was written that " if u r resident of uk for last three 3 " its free of any charge.
Now my question is that as this course provided by adult education." IS this support come under public fund ?" As we did not pay any money to them
Any help would b much appreciated
Regards
I don't think they will normally asked for your NI while you take the course, but some of the provider won't let you do it if you have no recourse to public fund on your visa.sahi2015 wrote:Hi
Thank u for reply ...is It mean public fund are tracked through NI NO?
Plz correct me if I wrong .
this cours is county concil funded
Plz suggest me that should we pay the money to council ?
Or it's batter to keep quite ?
Thankx for reply
Regard s
Just calm down i don't think is big problem , because i don't think home office can trace it, except you tell them. The ones that are really after are the benefits.sahi2015 wrote:Hi
Yes she checked with the lady who provide the training of this course, for her point of view its fine and she also check with councils which allow this course for my wife .
But I think they r not well familier with immigration rules that y they allow my wife to do course .because when we email today to lady who deal with this course in council she said "she do not know if my wife is eligible for course on tier 1general dependent "
But my wife already doing and course going to b completed next month .
But I m worried because my wife filled enrolment form at the start of this course.which could b a problem for us .
We are not sure if we provide NI NO at the time of enrolment.
plz can any body give the solution of this how we should deal with this situation
Regard
No, no, no! it is absolutely wrong to think "Is government funding so is public fund". That is absolutely not the case.Omor4real wrote: Is government funding so is public fund, some school will not allow her to do it, but i don't think home office will know expect you tell them, because the ones they will be able to trace are the public funds you provide your NI no for.
-: and even that is subject to clarification from paras 6A, 6B and 6C."public funds" means
(a) housing under Part VI or VII of the Housing Act 1996 and under Part II of the Housing Act 1985, Part I or II of the Housing (Scotland) Act 1987, Part II of the Housing (Northern Ireland) Order 1981 or Part II of the Housing (Northern Ireland) Order 1988;
(b) attendance allowance, severe disablement allowance, carer's allowance and disability living allowance under Part III of the Social Security Contribution and Benefits Act 1992;, income support, council tax benefit and housing benefit under Part VII of that Act; a
social fund payment under Part VIII of that Act; child benefit under Part IX of that Act; income based jobseeker's allowance under the Jobseekers Act 1995, income related allowance under Part 1 of the Welfare Reform Act 2007 (employment and support
allowance) state pension credit under the State Pension Credit Act 2002; or child tax credit and working tax credit under Part 1 of the Tax Credits Act 2002;
(c) attendance allowance, severe disablement allowance, carer's allowance and disability living allowance under Part III of the Social Security Contribution and Benefits (Northern Ireland) Act 1992;, income support, council tax benefit and, housing benefit under Part VII of that Act; a social fund payment under Part VIII of that Act; child benefit under Part IX of that Act; income based jobseeker's allowance under the Jobseekers (Northern Ireland) Order 1995 or income related allowance under Part 1 of the Welfare Reform Act (Northern Ireland) 2007;
(d) Universal Credit under Part 1 of the Welfare Reform Act 2012 or Personal Independence Payment under Part 4 of that Act;
(e) Universal Credit, Personal Independence Payment or any domestic rate relief under the Northern Ireland Welfare Reform Act 2013;
(f) a council tax reduction under a council tax reduction scheme made under section 13A of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 in relation to England or Wales or a council tax reduction pursuant to the Council Tax Reduction (Scotland) Regulations 2012 or the
Council Tax Reduction (State Pension Credit) (Scotland) Regulations 2012.
John am not disputing you and that is why i told him not to worry, but is a situation have find myself once, and i was not allow to do the course because they said is public fund and since am not entitled to any benefit, then i can't do it.John wrote:No, no, no! it is absolutely wrong to think "Is government funding so is public fund". That is absolutely not the case.Omor4real wrote: Is government funding so is public fund, some school will not allow her to do it, but i don't think home office will know expect you tell them, because the ones they will be able to trace are the public funds you provide your NI no for.
"Public funds" is a strictly defined, in para 6 of the Immigration Rules :-
-: and even that is subject to clarification from paras 6A, 6B and 6C."public funds" means
(a) housing under Part VI or VII of the Housing Act 1996 and under Part II of the Housing Act 1985, Part I or II of the Housing (Scotland) Act 1987, Part II of the Housing (Northern Ireland) Order 1981 or Part II of the Housing (Northern Ireland) Order 1988;
(b) attendance allowance, severe disablement allowance, carer's allowance and disability living allowance under Part III of the Social Security Contribution and Benefits Act 1992;, income support, council tax benefit and housing benefit under Part VII of that Act; a
social fund payment under Part VIII of that Act; child benefit under Part IX of that Act; income based jobseeker's allowance under the Jobseekers Act 1995, income related allowance under Part 1 of the Welfare Reform Act 2007 (employment and support
allowance) state pension credit under the State Pension Credit Act 2002; or child tax credit and working tax credit under Part 1 of the Tax Credits Act 2002;
(c) attendance allowance, severe disablement allowance, carer's allowance and disability living allowance under Part III of the Social Security Contribution and Benefits (Northern Ireland) Act 1992;, income support, council tax benefit and, housing benefit under Part VII of that Act; a social fund payment under Part VIII of that Act; child benefit under Part IX of that Act; income based jobseeker's allowance under the Jobseekers (Northern Ireland) Order 1995 or income related allowance under Part 1 of the Welfare Reform Act (Northern Ireland) 2007;
(d) Universal Credit under Part 1 of the Welfare Reform Act 2012 or Personal Independence Payment under Part 4 of that Act;
(e) Universal Credit, Personal Independence Payment or any domestic rate relief under the Northern Ireland Welfare Reform Act 2013;
(f) a council tax reduction under a council tax reduction scheme made under section 13A of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 in relation to England or Wales or a council tax reduction pursuant to the Council Tax Reduction (Scotland) Regulations 2012 or the
Council Tax Reduction (State Pension Credit) (Scotland) Regulations 2012.
Nothing there about the remission of fees mentioned by the OP.
The regulations are complicated. Did they actually say you were not entitled because it was public funds? Or possibly because you were subject to subject to immigration control? Or for some other reason?Omor4real wrote:John am not disputing you and that is why i told him not to worry, but is a situation have find myself once, and i was not allow to do the course because they said is public fund and since am not entitled to any benefit, then i can't do it.
It was my local authority that was doing the course then around 2011. I filled all the form with no trouble and on the day that we were suppose to start, then they asked if am entitled to any benefit and i said no. The lady said am not entitle as government funding and is only available to people that can claim benefit.John wrote:The regulations are complicated. Did they actually say you were not entitled because it was public funds? Or possibly because you were subject to subject to immigration control? Or for some other reason?Omor4real wrote:John am not disputing you and that is why i told him not to worry, but is a situation have find myself once, and i was not allow to do the course because they said is public fund and since am not entitled to any benefit, then i can't do it.