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What is the purpose of exercising your treaty rights in Germany?stormystar wrote:Hello. I'm British and my Indian husband was refused a spouse visa (for a stupid reason!). After battling for over two years we gave up on that! My husband returned to India voluntarily and has got a 15 day Schengen visa. He is flying to Germany on 5th may, I will join him on 6 th may. The plan is to exercise my treaty rights.
Where I'm confused is this.. How exactly do I exercise my treaty rights? Once we're together should we say hop over the border somewhere and re-enter Germany together ?? (That's where we plan to settle). If so, who do we announce our arrival to? He can legally enter for 15 days in his tourist visa so will they just refuse to issue any kind of other visa at the border? I'll have our marriage certificate with me.
If that's not the way, can anyone tell me what is? I think I was initially clear on what we should do but having this very temporary visa has confused me! Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thank you
Based on other members' posts about Germany its not quite as straightforward as parachuting in and making it up as you go along.stormystar wrote:We haven't yet fully decided if we'll try and come back to the uk later or stay in Germany or go somewhere else. For now we just want to get in and for my husband to get a residence card/permit, and to be legal! Any other decisions are for further down the road. So really we just want to know how to do what we need to in that 15 days. I will saying that I'm going to be looking for work in Germany.
Does he have a tourist visa or a Schengen visa issued under EU rules as spouse of an EEA national? 15 days sounds more like a tourist visa.stormystar wrote:Ok I take that on board but can anyone answer my original question please. We just want to know what to do at point of arrival.
You don't need to do a border run just to effect an entry into the country together.stormystar wrote:Ok I take that on board but can anyone answer my original question please. We just want to know what to do at point of arrival.
How long does the visa allow you to stay in Germany initially?logical_1 wrote:Same scenario here. Me and my British wife have been here in Germany for almost a month and half. I was given a Family Member of an EU citizen visa. On arrival in Germany we had to find a place(which took about 2 weeks).After we got the rental agreement, we went to the Stadamt for Registration.
Once the registration is done,you can apply for a residence card. So, I went to the local Auslanderbehorde to enquire about the process. After waiting for about 2 hours they booked an appointment for me for next month. All they need for the card to be issued are the following documents:
1.Registration in Germany
2.Marriage Certificate
3.Work Contract/Payslips for EU citizen. That's All!!
Our initial plan was to return to the UK under SS but if things are fine here, we might just end up being here permanently. It's a nice place to settle if you can learn the language and have a decent job.
Did he disclose he has a british wife when he made the visa application?stormystar wrote:Ok my husband has a tourist visa and that's the issue. We don't know how we "convert" that into what it needs to be. We do have quite significant savings (and proof thereof) if the issue is supporting ourselves?
Does your wife have a job in Germany? I'm self employed so in theory could register a German business but that does seem complicated in all honesty.
stormystar wrote:Ok I take that on board but can anyone answer my original question please. We just want to know what to do at point of arrival.
I don't think he was asked that question.member wrote:Did he disclose he has a british wife when he made the visa application?stormystar wrote:Ok my husband has a tourist visa and that's the issue. We don't know how we "convert" that into what it needs to be. We do have quite significant savings (and proof thereof) if the issue is supporting ourselves?
Does your wife have a job in Germany? I'm self employed so in theory could register a German business but that does seem complicated in all honesty.
For switching to residence card, see my earlier post.stormystar wrote:Ok my husband has a tourist visa and that's the issue. We don't know how we "convert" that into what it needs to be. We do have quite significant savings (and proof thereof) if the issue is supporting ourselves?
Does your wife have a job in Germany? I'm self employed so in theory could register a German business but that does seem complicated in all honesty.
90 Days= As that's what I requested at the time of application.member wrote:How long does the visa allow you to stay in Germany initially?logical_1 wrote:Same scenario here. Me and my British wife have been here in Germany for almost a month and half. I was given a Family Member of an EU citizen visa. On arrival in Germany we had to find a place(which took about 2 weeks).After we got the rental agreement, we went to the Stadamt for Registration.
Once the registration is done,you can apply for a residence card. So, I went to the local Auslanderbehorde to enquire about the process. After waiting for about 2 hours they booked an appointment for me for next month. All they need for the card to be issued are the following documents:
1.Registration in Germany
2.Marriage Certificate
3.Work Contract/Payslips for EU citizen. That's All!!
Our initial plan was to return to the UK under SS but if things are fine here, we might just end up being here permanently. It's a nice place to settle if you can learn the language and have a decent job.
The visa application form asks for details of EEA national family members.stormystar wrote:I don't think he was asked that question.member wrote:Did he disclose he has a british wife when he made the visa application?stormystar wrote:Ok my husband has a tourist visa and that's the issue. We don't know how we "convert" that into what it needs to be. We do have quite significant savings (and proof thereof) if the issue is supporting ourselves?
Does your wife have a job in Germany? I'm self employed so in theory could register a German business but that does seem complicated in all honesty.
Exactly the same reason why we are in Germany.stormystar wrote:Honestly it is very rushed because we don't know what's going fi happen in the EU referendum in June. We'd exhausted all possible options in the UK and decided we had to take our chances in the EU and therefore had to do it quickly just in case.
We fell down that hole (nearly) Think also it was 3 months rent up front, deposit AND 2.75 months rent to rental agent as the tenant pays this fee in Germany, not the Landlord....logical_1 wrote:90 Days= As that's what I requested at the time of application.member wrote:How long does the visa allow you to stay in Germany initially?logical_1 wrote:Same scenario here. Me and my British wife have been here in Germany for almost a month and half. I was given a Family Member of an EU citizen visa. On arrival in Germany we had to find a place(which took about 2 weeks).After we got the rental agreement, we went to the Stadamt for Registration.
Once the registration is done,you can apply for a residence card. So, I went to the local Auslanderbehorde to enquire about the process. After waiting for about 2 hours they booked an appointment for me for next month. All they need for the card to be issued are the following documents:
1.Registration in Germany
2.Marriage Certificate
3.Work Contract/Payslips for EU citizen. That's All!!
Our initial plan was to return to the UK under SS but if things are fine here, we might just end up being here permanently. It's a nice place to settle if you can learn the language and have a decent job.
Do you have any relatives in Germany who could help you in the beginning?
Also remember that most of the flats in Germany come empty, so you have to buy everything from Spam to beds,sofas and what not. So, I would say that make sure you have enough savings to get started.
Not sure where you will be moving to in Germany, but if you need any help please feel free to pm.
Standard is: One month rent upfront, Deposit of three months rentWanderer wrote:
We fell down that hole (nearly) Think also it was 3 months rent up front, deposit AND 2.75 months rent to rental agent as the tenant pays this fee in Germany, not the Landlord....