EEA2 / FM-EFM Discussion thread

[Richard W]

Rough and ready answers in case you can't find a more definitive answer.
1) Quick 2) Very rare, if ever. I think it's to confirm that the CoA is not fake. 3) None. 4) I don't see why length of contract need be affected. Some contracts specify, directly or indirectly, what will happen if a right to work cannot be demonstrated as prescribed by the SS, or if you fall sick, etc. You may be able to sue the Home Office if you are wrongfully refused an RC; in non-EEA cases, there is no justice in corresponding circumstances. It seems that while you appeal, you can get a fresh CoA, and there wouldn't be any point if they were always negative.

[seitaj]

Rough and ready answers in case you can't find a more definitive answer.
1) Quick 2) Very rare, if ever. I think it's to confirm that the CoA is not bad quality. 3) None. 4) I don't see why length of contract need be affected. Some contracts specify, directly or indirectly, what will happen if a right to work cannot be demonstrated as prescribed by the SS, or if you fall sick, etc. You may be able to sue the Home Office if you are wrongfully refused an RC; in non-EEA cases, there is no justice in corresponding circumstances. It seems that while you appeal, you can get a fresh CoA, and there wouldn't be any point if they were always negative.

Thank you Rchard W for your answer.

[Richard W]

...2) Very rare, if ever. I think it's to confirm that the CoA is not bad quality...

Thank you Rchard W for your answer.

Some bowdleriser (automatic, I hope), has totally corrupted my answer to the question

2) Is there any case that the Home Office gives negative answer although they provided me with a CoA with right to work?

I'm inclined to believe that the the HO does issue bad quality CoAs (i.e., wrong preliminary decision) and generally does not correct them, contrary to what the board now represents me as having written.

My belief, shared I think by the HO, is that there are people who would be tempted to create a piece of paper that looked like a CoA confirming the right to work, but was no such thing. I further believe that the Home Office confirmation is made a condition so as to prevent such trickery.

[al.91]

Did HO call your employer ?
Still didn't call mine...

Hi al.91.

We are in the same situation, i am still waiting for RC and I asked my Company == No call from HO yet.

please tell me when you have some great news .


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EEA(FM) - Married
App sent 20.11.2015
Payment Taken :26.11.2015
COA + Bio letter received : 30.11.2015 (I received COA and Bio letter in the same mail)
Bio submitted : 03.12.2015
RC : Pending.

[dalil1010]

Did HO call your employer ?
Still didn't call mine...

Hi al.91.

We are in the same situation, i am still waiting for RC and I asked my Company == No call from HO yet.

please tell me when you have some great news .


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EEA(FM) - Married
App sent 20.11.2015
Payment Taken :26.11.2015
COA + Bio letter received : 30.11.2015 (I received COA and Bio letter in the same mail)
Bio submitted : 03.12.2015
RC : Pending.

No not yet.
Still waiting.

[hsn86]

Hi,

I just applied for EEA2-FM, as a married spouse of EU national. I have some questions about my application;

1- I got my EEA Family Permit in January in abroad. I already enrolled my biometrics on my EEA Family Permit application. Do I need to enroll another one as a part of EEA2-FM application? Or will I receive my COA without enrolling biometrics?

2- As I know, I will receive my biometric card as a separate, credit card size, document. So when can i request my passport earliest?

Thank you in advance.

[euscape1]

Additional update for November applicants:

adedayoh A:16.11-> Bio:26.11 -> CoA:12.12 -> RC: 20.04
abok627 A:10.11 -> Bio:23.22 -> COA:13.12 -> RC:14.4
Kindman A:04.11 -> Bio:07.12 -> CoA: -> RC:18.04
euscape1 A:14.11 -> Bio:01.12 -> COA:13.12 -> RC???
Sebsdl A:03.11 -> Bio:18.11 -> CoA:06.12 -> RC:???
a4j A:10.11 -> Bio:25.11 -> CoA:10.12 -> RC???
al.91 A:20.11 -> Bio:15.12 -> CoA:20.01 -> RC???
dalil1010 A:20.11 -> Bio:03.12 -> COA:30.11 -> RC???
emily666 A:24.11 -> Bio:10.12 -> CoA:03.03 -> RC:???

Fingers crossed guys...

[YOZ]

Hi,

I just applied for EEA2-FM, as a married spouse of EU national. I have some questions about my application;

1- I got my EEA Family Permit in January in abroad. I already enrolled my biometrics on my EEA Family Permit application. Do I need to enroll another one as a part of EEA2-FM application? Or will I receive my COA without enrolling biometrics?

2- As I know, I will receive my biometric card as a separate, credit card size, document. So when can i request my passport earliest?

Thank you in advance.

Hi,

1. Yes, you will need to give your biometrics second time.
2. It's better to wait until your biometrics is taken.

[hsn86]

Hi,

I am not sure if this is the right topic, but i wanted to share this information, it may help someone.

If you have a EEA2 Residence Card, you may travel to Czech Republic (probably other EU countries too, must check) even if you are alone.

----quote-----
The visa free rule applies even if travelling to the Czech Republic without the attendance of an EU citizen. Furthermore, this only applies when travelling directly to the Czech Republic. If you travel to the Czech Republic via another EU member state please double check with that respective state´s Embassy in London whether the visa free regime applies to you also in that country.
----quote-----

Source: http://www.mzv.cz/london/en/visa_and_co ... o_not.html

I think all the EU member states are signed the same agreement, so it should be valid for all member states, but its better to confirm it before travelling.

[kunfayakun]

Hello everyone!

Just wondering which service do UKVI uses when returning our passports and documents? anybody knows about this?

Thank you.

[euscape1]

Re-updated as at 28/04/16:

adedayoh A:16.11-> Bio:26.11 -> CoA :12.12 -> RC: 20.04
abok627 A:10.11 -> Bio:23.22 -> COA :13.12 -> RC:14.4
Kindman A:04.11 -> Bio:07.12 -> CoA : -> RC:18.04
euscape1 A:14.11 -> Bio:01.12 -> COA :13.12 -> RC???
ams.punjabi A:21.11-> Bio:08.12 -> CoA:06.01 -> RC???
Svarma241 A:12.11 -> Bio:03.12 -> CoA:02.12 -> RC???
Sebsdl A:03.11 -> Bio:18.11 -> CoA :06.12 -> RC:???
a4j A:10.11 -> Bio:25.11 -> CoA:10.12 -> RC???
al.91 A:20.11 -> Bio:15.12 -> CoA:20.01 -> RC???
dalil1010 A:20.11 -> Bio:03.12 -> COA:30.11 -> RC???
emily666 A:24.11 -> Bio:10.12 -> CoA:03.03 -> RC:???


Lets try add up other timelines from November Applicants pls.

Cheers!

[sannna]

Can someone please explain when will the new biometrics be given for the EEA2? We sent the applications (EEA QP and EEA FM) yesterday and they were received today. There will be some kind of guidance message coming from HO? Thanks!

[steeev1]

I applied for EEA-FM resident card (spouse of an EEA member)

01/04/2016 (Fri) - Documents received (signed) by home office
06/04/2016 (Wed) - Payment taken
20/04/2016 (Wed) - Requested passports back

I haven't heard back at all - letters / emails / calls / case number.

1. Is it a reasonable timeline? (I don't think so looking at others).
2. Is there a phone number or email address where I can ask if everything is all right? As in perhaps something got lost in the mail? They make it look like I can't ask questions until 6 months had passed.

Thanks

[yulis]

I applied for EEA-FM resident card (spouse of an EEA member)

01/04/2016 (Fri) - Documents received (signed) by home office
06/04/2016 (Wed) - Payment taken
20/04/2016 (Wed) - Requested passports back

I haven't heard back at all - letters / emails / calls / case number.

1. Is it a reasonable timeline? (I don't think so looking at others).
2. Is there a phone number or email address where I can ask if everything is all right? As in perhaps something got lost in the mail? They make it look like I can't ask questions until 6 months had passed.

Thanks

Hi steeev1,

In my case, it took about 3 weeks from submitting the application until Biometric enrollment invitation letter received and then you will receive Certificate of Application (COA) letter contains Ref. No. only after submitting Biometric enrollment. See related post on the thread below:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... 04555.html

[yulis]

Hi Everyone,

I need to ask something regarding my Certificate of Application and Employment. I Applied on January 13th for EEA (FM) and received me Certificate of Application with the Right to Work on February 10th which means it has already been 2 months and 12 days. My future Employee wants to make me a job offer but he first wants to check my eligibility with the home office. At this point I need to ask 1) How long does the process take for the home office to reply? 2) Is there any case that the Home Office gives negative answer although they provided me with a CoA with right to work? 3) Does it make any difference if I want to work for a restaurant or a big IT company? 4) Does this affect the duration of my contract? If anyone has been through this process please let me know. Thank you in advance.

Hi seitaj,

Please find an answer for question no 1 according to my case, at the thread below
http://www.immigrationboards.com/genera ... 07421.html

[DanChak]

My timelines
A:01.12 -> Bio:19.12 -> COA :05.01 -> RC???
I also requested the passports back on 14/04 but haven't received them so far.

[steeev1]

Hi steeev1,

In my case, it took about 3 weeks from submitting the application until Biometric enrollment invitation letter received and then you will receive Certificate of Application (COA) letter contains Ref. No. only after submitting Biometric enrollment. See related post on the thread below:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... 04555.html

Thank you for pointing out that thread. I see that everyone who tried to contact the home-office received useless answers. I also need to travel in 10 days, I see the chances of receiving back my passport are slim (especially without a case number).

That's very disappointing. I don't think we deserve such a bad service.

[seitaj]

Hi Everyone,

I need to ask something regarding my Certificate of Application and Employment. I Applied on January 13th for EEA (FM) and received me Certificate of Application with the Right to Work on February 10th which means it has already been 2 months and 12 days. My future Employee wants to make me a job offer but he first wants to check my eligibility with the home office. At this point I need to ask 1) How long does the process take for the home office to reply? 2) Is there any case that the Home Office gives negative answer although they provided me with a CoA with right to work? 3) Does it make any difference if I want to work for a restaurant or a big IT company? 4) Does this affect the duration of my contract? If anyone has been through this process please let me know. Thank you in advance.

Hi seitaj,

Please find an answer for question no 1 according to my case, at the thread below
http://www.immigrationboards.com/genera ... 07421.html

Hi yulis, thank you for the link. My future Employer submitted the form last Monday (25/04/2016) and expected a reply today but of course we are talking about HO so there was no response. I hope that there will be one soon. Do you think they should contact the HO again? Do you know of any other cases ?

[al.91]

HO called my wife's employer today to check if she was still working there. Her manager answered and confirmed it. The woman on the phone asked for the Head Office number but they can't give it without authorization. Is the confirmation from her manager enough ? I hope so and I hope it means the journey is almost over !

[kunfayakun]

Hey guys

Anybody knows which service do UKVI uses when returning our passports and documents?

[ASNUL]

Guys,

Could anyone give me the email address to the HO I need to ask them if I should be sending more payslips even though they have the permanent employment contract of my wife, I'm getting really anxious as this is my second application and I have been through these procedures and waiting since June, exactly like a prisoner in a free country

Appreciate the help

[euscape1]

Re-updated as at 03/05/16:

adedayoh A:16.11-> Bio:26.11 -> CoA :12.12 -> RC: 20.04
abok627 A:10.11 -> Bio:23.22 -> COA :13.12 -> RC:14.4
Kindman A:04.11 -> Bio:07.12 -> CoA : -> RC:18.04
euscape1 A:14.11 -> Bio:01.12 -> COA :13.12 -> RC???
ams.punjabi A:21.11-> Bio:08.12 -> CoA:06.01 -> RC???
Svarma241 A:12.11 -> Bio:03.12 -> CoA:02.12 -> RC???
Sebsdl A:03.11 -> Bio:18.11 -> CoA :06.12 -> RC:???
a4j A:10.11 -> Bio:25.11 -> CoA:10.12 -> RC: 26.04
al.91 A:20.11 -> Bio:15.12 -> CoA:20.01 -> RC???
dalil1010 A:20.11 -> Bio:03.12 -> COA:30.11 -> RC???
emily666 A:24.11 -> Bio:10.12 -> CoA:03.03 -> RC:???
asian_atheart A:04.11 -> Bio:14.11 ->Coa:05.12 ->RC??


Lets try add up other timelines from November Applicants pls.

Cheers!

[emily666]

I just called HO this morning to check whether there's a decision made on my application. They said that they can't check it for me until it would be 6 months after my application. I have to wait for a few weeks and then call them again.

Such a long waiting! Just wonder is there anyone successfully checked the status of the application within 6 months...

[DanChak]

I finally received the passports today thru Royal Mail.
So these are my updated timelines
timelines:
A:01.12 -> Bio:19.12 -> COA :05.01 ->Passport Requested: 14/04 -> Passports received: 03/05 -> RC???

[dalil1010]

Hi,
I received the passports and all documents today via Royal Mail.
RC will be sent in 10 days.

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dalil1010 A:20.11 -> Bio:03.12 -> COA:30.11 -> RC soon (in 10days)