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by thutmose » Wed May 11, 2016 5:41 pm
Moneysoft FPS doesn't show the NI number though. And it shows initial and the surname. Are they gonna say NI number missing from FPS hence you don't score points on job creation?
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by raj.m » Wed May 11, 2016 6:56 pm
zimba88 wrote:raj.m wrote:Guys, my accountant has just sent me my RTI submissions and this is what it looks like:
I'm totally clueless now. Is this what it should look like?
Yes, The is an RTI FPS report.
Each report shows your starter/leavers employees, salaries paid to each employee and taxes which need to be paid in that month
Hi Zimba88
Each report is not showing starter/leavers. Only the first one is showing the starter. Even the salaries are not shown on any of them. Is that okay? This is how it is :
will this be okay?
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FKS21177
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by FKS21177 » Wed May 11, 2016 10:28 pm
Sorry to hear about your refusal... Did you sent P11 ? As you mentioned and what format was it? Coz P11 is also acceptable and is alternative to FPS.
If you gad submitted P11 that shows starter/leaver and tax info that shud have been accepted as evidence for job creation.
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by raj.m » Thu May 12, 2016 12:37 am
FKS21177 wrote:Sorry to hear about your refusal... Did you sent P11 ? As you mentioned and what format was it? Coz P11 is also acceptable and is alternative to FPS.
If you gad submitted P11 that shows starter/leaver and tax info that shud have been accepted as evidence for job creation.
I also sent them P11 and it is in this format :
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by raj.m » Thu May 12, 2016 12:40 am
aby00156 wrote:Admin Review won't help much as FPS is mandatory and clearly mentioned in the guidance.
Also, You submitted a CAR dated Nov 2012 which is again not acceptable. Print the latest CAR from the companies house website and use that for your application.
I would suggest to wait for your documents to arrive and then re-apply again with all documents (this time correct).
But if I wait for my documents to be returned in order to re-apply, would that not make me an overstayer?
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by moongesture » Thu May 12, 2016 12:44 am
That's exactly what you need as per rules and for new application. New application with complete case review is highly recommended.
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by moongesture » Thu May 12, 2016 12:46 am
Rather waiting collect all docs again and apply. Your passport will be retained anyway.
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by FKS21177 » Thu May 12, 2016 8:28 am
This seems absolutrly perpect coz it has got leaver/starter and tax details and the guidlines say it is acceptable Evidence dont know its not accepted> have you provided P11 for all period claiming the employement? was any missing
raj.m wrote:FKS21177 wrote:Sorry to hear about your refusal... Did you sent P11 ? As you mentioned and what format was it? Coz P11 is also acceptable and is alternative to FPS.
If you gad submitted P11 that shows starter/leaver and tax info that shud have been accepted as evidence for job creation.
I also sent them P11 and it is in this format :
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by aby00156 » Thu May 12, 2016 8:51 am
raj.m wrote:
But if I wait for my documents to be returned in order to re-apply, would that not make me an overstayer?
You should receive your documents within 14 days of refusal (which will be end of you AD Review period) and you will have another 14 days to re-apply.
If you apply after your AD review period then you become an over-stayer. But if visa granted then this overstaying period is ignored during your ILR.
So verily, with every difficulty, there is relief.
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by aby00156 » Thu May 12, 2016 8:52 am
thutmose wrote:Moneysoft FPS doesn't show the NI number though. And it shows initial and the surname. Are they gonna say NI number missing from FPS hence you don't score points on job creation?
I use money-soft and the FPS surely does not have NI but it does show full name of the employee. The money-soft FPS is acceptable by HMRC hence Home office will not have any problem with that.
So verily, with every difficulty, there is relief.
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by aby00156 » Thu May 12, 2016 8:54 am
raj.m wrote:
Each report is not showing starter/leavers. Only the first one is showing the starter. Even the salaries are not shown on any of them. Is that okay? This is how it is :
will this be okay?
Only the first FPS shows the joining date and the last FPS will show the leaving date, remaining FPS will have the standard data.
So verily, with every difficulty, there is relief.
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by sm12 » Thu May 12, 2016 8:57 am
Section 3c applies to end of AR even if AR is refused?
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by Mrchaany » Thu May 12, 2016 9:33 am
[quote="FKS21177"]This seems absolutrly perpect coz it has got leaver/starter and tax details and the guidlines say it is acceptable Evidence dont know its not accepted> have you provided P11 for all period claiming the employement? was any missing
[quote="raj.m"][quote="FKS21177"]Sorry to hear about your refusal... Did you sent P11 ? As you mentioned and what format was it? Coz P11 is also acceptable and is alternative to FPS.
If you gad submitted P11 that shows starter/leaver and tax info that shud have been accepted as evidence for job creation.[/quote]
I also sent them P11 and it is in this format : [/quote][/quote]
Can you please refer or link in the guidance that RTIs can replaced by P11.
Because I am searching for that in guidance.
Please put your comments and link
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Mrchaany
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by Mrchaany » Thu May 12, 2016 9:37 am
184. You must provide evidence to show you are reporting Pay As You Earn (PAYE) income tax appropriately to HMRC. Acceptable evidence includes printouts of Employee Payment Records, Real Time-Full Payment Submissions (either a series of individual monthly submissions, including the first submission or summaries), or an original HMRC P45 or P46, which either together or individually show the total payments made to the settled workers, as well as the tax deducted and date which they started working for your business.
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by zimba » Thu May 12, 2016 9:38 am
aby00156 wrote:thutmose wrote:Moneysoft FPS doesn't show the NI number though. And it shows initial and the surname. Are they gonna say NI number missing from FPS hence you don't score points on job creation?
I use money-soft and the FPS surely does not have NI but it does show full name of the employee. The money-soft FPS is acceptable by HMRC hence Home office will not have any problem with that.
Your FPS does not need to have the NI numbers. You can also change the way names are displayed in the Moneysoft settings.
Advice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice
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by FKS21177 » Thu May 12, 2016 11:39 am
Business2business wrote:184. You must provide evidence to show you are reporting Pay As You Earn (PAYE) income tax appropriately to HMRC. Acceptable evidence includes printouts of Employee Payment Records, Real Time-Full Payment Submissions (either a series of individual monthly submissions, including the first submission or summaries), or an original HMRC P45 or P46, which either together or individually show the total payments made to the settled workers, as well as the tax deducted and date which they started working for your business.
hi businesstobusiness..... P11 is employee payment record. isnt it ?
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by Mrchaany » Thu May 12, 2016 12:23 pm
Ok why the op refused
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by noajthan » Thu May 12, 2016 1:39 pm
FKS21177 wrote:Sorry to hear about your refusal... Did you sent P11 ? As you mentioned and what format was it? Coz P11 is also acceptable and is alternative to FPS.
If you gad submitted P11 that shows starter/leaver and tax info that shud have been accepted as evidence for job creation.
fyi - interesting related case - P11 refused:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/uk-tie ... 09015.html
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by yyyekj » Fri May 13, 2016 10:33 pm
I may have a different suggestion for you: do the AR anyway, meanwhile prepare the documents for a new application. I say it because I won my AR previously.It is no harm that you do AR first, even lose eventually, you will still have 28 days to submit a new application after your AR decision has been issued.
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by sm12 » Fri May 13, 2016 11:39 pm
yyyekj wrote:I may have a different suggestion for you: do the AR anyway, meanwhile prepare the documents for a new application. I say it because I won my AR previously.It is no harm that you do AR first, even lose eventually, you will still have 28 days to submit a new application after your AR decision has been issued.
Hi
Could you please share more details about the AR as you are one of the few who has succeeded at AR?
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by raj.m » Sat May 14, 2016 2:49 pm
yyyekj wrote:I may have a different suggestion for you: do the AR anyway, meanwhile prepare the documents for a new application. I say it because I won my AR previously.It is no harm that you do AR first, even lose eventually, you will still have 28 days to submit a new application after your AR decision has been issued.
Yes, that's what I have decided to do. I'm not very hopeful with the AR but it will give me some time to prepare for the fresh application.
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by regularuser » Sun May 15, 2016 6:32 pm
Hello everyone
I have come across with this guy's post as he got his ILR and he submitted P11.
entrepreneur » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:41 pm
Hello All,
I generated 5 million turnover to qualify for ILR,and submitted the following documents.
Personal
1. Application Form ( for ILR )
2. Life in UK test certificate
3. English Test certificate (trinity college)
4. 6 months bank statement
Business :
1. Certificate of incorporation
2. Company house current appointment report
3. Business account statement
4. Unaudited accounts with compilation report
5. Director loan agreement
6. Meeting minutes for director loan
7. Acknowledgement of a company tax return (CT620)
8. Certificate of VAT registration
9. Business rate bill for business premises
10. Business premises lease agreement copy
Employees :
1. Accountant letter confirming the creation of jobs
2. P11's
3. P35
4. Employees payment history report
5. Employees status documents and wages slips copies
Below you can see copy of my post for my application timeline
Re: ILR postal applications (excluding SET(LR))
Postby entrepreneur » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:27 pm
Alhamdulilah by grace of Allah We have received our ILR. Also thanks to this forum.
Set (0)Tier 1 Entrepreneur ( Accelerated Route )
Myself and 2 Dependants
Date of application: 12/05/2014
Date of application received at HO: 13/05/2014
Date bio-metrics completed: 06/06/2014
Date of BRP received : 01/09/2014 (Only for 1 Dependant) remaining today 05/09/2014 collected from dx depot (missed delivery)
Date of originals received : 04/09/2014
Date of decision letter : Still waiting ... (
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Mrchaany
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by Mrchaany » Sun May 15, 2016 7:46 pm
old rules now changed
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by jafersadeq » Sun May 15, 2016 8:22 pm
Dear regularuser,
He submitted P35, it is old form like the modern form FPS.
P35=FPS
Thanks
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by amiao6 » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:40 pm
Dear Jafersadeq,
Thank you for posting your FPS. I think my accountant uses the same payroll software as the FPS format looks exactly the same. But my accountant said you can not find the employee's start date on this FPS. So my question is that do you have the start date on your FPS? Or can you re-generate the report again by adding the start date information at somewhere in the system?
Thank you very much.