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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by xico » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:29 pm

Hello
Im new here :)
My residence visa expires next July 2016
I applied for my pr permit as as family member of an EEA national (my husband has both british and irish passport living in the North of Ireland) I sent my application a moth ago and since then i have not received any letter or email to acknowledge they received my documents. IS THAT NORMAL IN THE PROCESS? of course I wrote to them asking but told me they would get in touch. A week ago I requested my passports back but have not get them yet :(! ANYONE HAS A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE? I want to apply for a job and i'm unsure whether I ll be able to do so and I WONDER WHAT IS MY ACTUAL STATUS? HELP!! please :shock: :P :cry:

THANK YOU

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Post by Bumble » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:21 am

xico wrote:Hello
Im new here :)
My residence visa expires next July 2016
I applied for my pr permit as as family member of an EEA national (my husband has both british and irish passport living in the North of Ireland) I sent my application a moth ago and since then i have not received any letter or email to acknowledge they received my documents. IS THAT NORMAL IN THE PROCESS? of course I wrote to them asking but told me they would get in touch. A week ago I requested my passports back but have not get them yet :(! ANYONE HAS A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE? I want to apply for a job and i'm unsure whether I ll be able to do so and I WONDER WHAT IS MY ACTUAL STATUS? HELP!! please

THANK YOU
It is now normal not to receive any email responses from them if you apply as EEA national. EEA tends to take 3 months + from sending off to receiving the certificate. Receiving passport back takes 10 days minimum. If you have not received it back by then you can do a follow up request (not sure of link for that but someone will be able to help no doubt). They will not give you any clue as to your status before 6 months so for now just have to wait. :(
EU(14) DCPR Timeline
Docs sent: 08/04/2016
Docs received: 11/04/2016
Payment taken: 14/04/2016
Confirmation email: N/A
Passport requested: 14/07/2016
HO requested info: 15/07/2016
DCPR dated: 18/07/2016
DCPR received: 30/07/2016
Total time: 113 days

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by Mumla » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:03 pm

Me and my husband applied for PR in march . My husband is eeacitizen and I'm non -eea national. Here is mine and my husband's time line .

Mine( non eea )
Application Sent 22/03/16
Received 23/03/16
Payment taken 27/04/16
Biometric letter received 5/05/16
(dated 2/5/16)
Biometric sent 6/05/16
Coa dated 11/05/16 -saw it 16/05/16
PR still waiting

My husband's time line EEA national
Appln sent 22/03/2016
Appln received:23/03/2016
Payment taken : 31/03/2016
Confirmation email :none
PR still waiting
We recently changed our address and we have used ukiv website to update it. I hope it won't cause any problem or they will send it to the correct address.

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Post by noajthan » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:18 pm

Metabog wrote:Some really good news today. My application came back and I got my DCPR! I never got an e-mail or any response.

Even crazier, I didn't have CSI for all 5 years I was a student and manged to beat the requirement because of my pre 2011 RC. I outlined in my cover letter the exact set of policies and clauses and the stuff published under Freedom of Information and it seems it worked! As far as I can tell I am the only one so far that can definitely confirm this is possible and they accept it.
You didn't really beat the system - you used a transitional arrangement put in place for applicants in your situation.
Think of it as the British sense of fair play, if you will.

It worked because you followed the rules.
Congratulations.
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Post by noajthan » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:26 pm

natalied1986 wrote:hi there, can anyone help me?
my eea residence card expires on 28th june this year and i am applying for permanent residence on the 20th june. i am very worried about my right to work until i dont receive COA.
i have een working for the same employer for the past 4yrs. HR told me that if i dont submitt my COA by end of july(1month after my residence card expires) they will terminate my contract.

my solicitor told me that it may take more than a month to receive it, but that i am still eligible to work even without COA

is that correct?is there any legislation stating that? i presume first letter i get from them wont be with application number so they wont be able to verify with HO im eligible to work

has anyone been in similar situation? can anyone advise on what to do and if its correct that im eligible to work even if i receive COA in 2/3 months time?

very worried. any reply much appreciate.
Your right to work is protected by the fulll force of EU law backing you up.

See here;
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/sponsor ... dismissal/

In any case if you have acquired PR you do not have to 'exercise treaty rights' anymore because you have settled status in UK.
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Post by GEGE_OO » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:35 pm

hi,
please help me understand, are you saying we do not need insurance till 2011. If so, then you mean people who are applying for PR and have covered 2009-2010 and 2011 do not need to have insurance even if he/she is a job seeker ?
kinds regards

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Post by ludovika » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:57 pm

Hi all,

Wondering if anyone could help me:
Planning to apply for PR (EEA citizen - Hungarian). I have been living in the UK for 10 years now married to a British Citizen for over 6. Named him as my sponsor, but I have a problem now :
he is in the military and getting deployed for 2 years abroad. We are moving in a couple of months.
Cannot send passports as we need them for Visas and flights etc also we wont have a UK address.
Also a bit confused with the whole application form, unsure whether he needs dates when he left UK (he can't remember them, they were only 1 or 2 weeks holidays), etc...
Can't find a contact number to call them.
Many thanks

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by noajthan » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:03 pm

GEGE_OO wrote:hi,
please help me understand, are you saying we do not need insurance till 2011. If so, then you mean people who are applying for PR and have covered 2009-2010 and 2011 do not need to have insurance even if he/she is a job seeker ?
kinds regards
Jobseekers do not require CSI.
Self-sufficient persons always needed CSI.
There are various rules covering students (in/before 2011) but now students require CSI.
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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by noajthan » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:05 pm

ludovika wrote:Hi all,

Wondering if anyone could help me:
Planning to apply for PR (EEA citizen - Hungarian). I have been living in the UK for 10 years now married to a British Citizen for over 6. Named him as my sponsor, but I have a problem now :
he is in the military and getting deployed for 2 years abroad. We are moving in a couple of months.
Cannot send passports as we need them for Visas and flights etc also we wont have a UK address.
Also a bit confused with the whole application form, unsure whether he needs dates when he left UK (he can't remember them, they were only 1 or 2 weeks holidays), etc...
Can't find a contact number to call them.
Many thanks
A British spouse cannot normally be a sponsor (except in special cases).
Did you exercise treaty rights in your own right, continuously, for 5 years?

Even if you have acquired PR, an absence of 2 years away from UK will terminate your PR status in UK.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by xico » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:27 pm

Thank you guys. Yesterday I received my biometric enrolment letter. But curiously I found out that the only benefit I get is child benefit suddenly stopped, is this related to my visa application? Thanks

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Post by Bumble » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:53 am

xico wrote:Thank you guys. Yesterday I received my biometric enrolment letter. But curiously I found out that the only benefit I get is child benefit suddenly stopped, is this related to my visa application? Thanks
There are so many reasons why child benefits may be stopped it is not really possible to tell. You should call the benefits people up and ask them as they are the ones who would have stopped it.
EU(14) DCPR Timeline
Docs sent: 08/04/2016
Docs received: 11/04/2016
Payment taken: 14/04/2016
Confirmation email: N/A
Passport requested: 14/07/2016
HO requested info: 15/07/2016
DCPR dated: 18/07/2016
DCPR received: 30/07/2016
Total time: 113 days

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Post by softy monster » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:59 am

Dear noajthan,

I have a query to ask you please, and wondering if you can help!

I'm non-EEA family member of EEA national/ and also just became British citizen) and I'm about to apply for PR as non-eea in October 2016, and just curious to know which of my sponsor' IDs that I should have to send, EEA passport or British passport or both, she also has PR). Also we are married and expecting a baby!

Thanks
Non-EEA (McCarthy Transitional Arrangement case)
PR card rec/dated:28 April 17
British Citizen: Dec 17

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Post by piotrf » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:24 pm

Hi,

Me and my wife entered the UK in September 2010 (we are both Polish). Few months ago I've applied for DCPR for myself and now finally got it issued (I've been working in IT). Unfortunately my wife hasn't held her CSI for a continuous period of 5 years and this disqualifies her from applying for DCPR herself (she first studied and then we had children so she never worked in the UK). Reading this forum I came across a post that lead me to believe I could act as her sponsor (now that I've got my DCPR). Could you please let me know if that is true?

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Post by dandodex » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:12 pm

I believe if your partner is now a British citizen she cannot sponsor you, but more knowledgeable folk here will be able to confirm.

There's been threads here of people who renounced their British citizenship to go back to their EEA one so they could sponsor a family member.

softy monster wrote:Dear noajthan,

I have a query to ask you please, and wondering if you can help!

I'm non-EEA family member of EEA national/ and also just became British citizen) and I'm about to apply for PR as non-eea in October 2016, and just curious to know which of my sponsor' IDs that I should have to send, EEA passport or British passport or both, she also has PR). Also we are married and expecting a baby!

Thanks

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Post by softy monster » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:22 pm

dandodex wrote:I believe if your partner is now a British citizen she cannot sponsor you, but more knowledgeable folk here will be able to confirm.

There's been threads here of people who renounced their British citizenship to go back to their EEA one so they could sponsor a family member.

softy monster wrote:Dear noajthan,

I have a query to ask you please, and wondering if you can help!

I'm non-EEA family member of EEA national/ and also just became British citizen) and I'm about to apply for PR as non-eea in October 2016, and just curious to know which of my sponsor' IDs that I should have to send, EEA passport or British passport or both, she also has PR). Also we are married and expecting a baby!

Thanks
Well she's an EEA national (A8) and became a British Citizen 6/7 months ago, and I will be applying for my PR as non-EEA on Oct 2016, could I only use her EEA ID + her PR so that shows she's a qualified person who's been exercising treaty rights, or British ID!
Non-EEA (McCarthy Transitional Arrangement case)
PR card rec/dated:28 April 17
British Citizen: Dec 17

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Post by mi55ytee » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:39 am

Hi All...

I just wanted to say this forum has been really helpful for me especially during the waiting period..

Non EEA unmarried partner
Application sent on 6th of Jan,
Received by home office 7th of Jan
Biometric and CoA sent together on 22nd of jan and i recieved it on 27th of jan.CoA with no right to work. Biometric registered on the same day.

Pr letter and documents sent back today 23rd of Jun. Dated 21st of june.
Thank you so much everyone.. i have scream and scream and scream. Grateful to God almighty.

5month and 3weeks. I pray everyone recieves their good news soon. Akz.. you are in my prayers. Thank you all!!

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by softy monster » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:47 pm

dandodex wrote:I believe if your partner is now a British citizen she cannot sponsor you, but more knowledgeable folk here will be able to confirm.

There's been threads here of people who renounced their British citizenship to go back to their EEA one so they could sponsor a family member.

softy monster wrote:Dear noajthan,

I have a query to ask you please, and wondering if you can help!

I'm non-EEA family member of EEA national/ and also just became British citizen) and I'm about to apply for PR as non-eea in October 2016, and just curious to know which of my sponsor' IDs that I should have to send, EEA passport or British passport or both, she also has PR). Also we are married and expecting a baby!

Thanks
I think I found an answer for my question as per "McCarthy transitional arrangement" as I got my RC in October 2011 which is away before the new law in July 2012, as my partner has become British citizen 7/8 months ago!

http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... r#p1359746
Non-EEA (McCarthy Transitional Arrangement case)
PR card rec/dated:28 April 17
British Citizen: Dec 17

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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by noajthan » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:55 pm

piotrf wrote:Hi,

Me and my wife entered the UK in September 2010 (we are both Polish). Few months ago I've applied for DCPR for myself and now finally got it issued (I've been working in IT). Unfortunately my wife hasn't held her CSI for a continuous period of 5 years and this disqualifies her from applying for DCPR herself (she first studied and then we had children so she never worked in the UK). Reading this forum I came across a post that lead me to believe I could act as her sponsor (now that I've got my DCPR). Could you please let me know if that is true?

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Piotr
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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by noajthan » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:57 pm

softy monster wrote:I think I found an answer for my question as per "McCarthy transitional arrangement" as I got my RC in October 2011 which is away before the new law in July 2012, as my partner has become British citizen 7/8 months ago!

http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... r#p1359746
Its a tricky area but you may be able to invoke that ta. Highlight it clearly in a cogent cover letter so caseworker is absolutely clear on your case;
(and this assumes you were married to each other when that 2011 RC was obtained).
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Post by softy monster » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:27 pm

noajthan wrote:
softy monster wrote:I think I found an answer for my question as per "McCarthy transitional arrangement" as I got my RC in October 2011 which is away before the new law in July 2012, as my partner has become British citizen 7/8 months ago!

http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... r#p1359746
Its a tricky area but you may be able to invoke that ta. Highlight it clearly in a cogent cover letter so caseworker is absolutely clear on your case;
(and this assumes you were married to each other when that 2011 RC was obtained).
no we were that time unmarried partners and this is how I got my RC, actually we got married in March 2016 (we were unmarried couple all this time till March this year)

I read few times about that law, but wasn't sure till I read you posts and that made it very clear! I guess I have to thank you twice!
Non-EEA (McCarthy Transitional Arrangement case)
PR card rec/dated:28 April 17
British Citizen: Dec 17

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Post by noajthan » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:13 pm

softy monster wrote:no we were that time unmarried partners and this is how I got my RC, actually we got married in March 2016 (we were unmarried couple all this time till March this year)

I read few times about that law, but wasn't sure till I read you posts and that made it very clear! I guess I have to thank you twice!
Hopefully all good then.]

As spouse/sponsor is an A8 national, how about WRS registration?
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Re: Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Post by softy monster » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:52 pm

noajthan wrote:
softy monster wrote:no we were that time unmarried partners and this is how I got my RC, actually we got married in March 2016 (we were unmarried couple all this time till March this year)

I read few times about that law, but wasn't sure till I read you posts and that made it very clear! I guess I have to thank you twice!
Hopefully all good then.]

As spouse/sponsor is an A8 national, how about WRS registration?
I know what you are saying but:
*She's self employed so therefor she doesn't need WRS, I didn't need it when I got my RC in 2011 either, however she had the WRS before she became a self employed! But wasn't required due to her being self employed
*Even if she wasn't self employed don't think the WRS is required now after April 2016!
*Also she's qualified person and had her PR in 2014, and became British citizen in 2015!
*Also we're expecting a baby @ the same time as when applying for my PR as non-eea in Oct 2016! But I rather wait for the baby first to come and then apply soon after
and include that too!

*thank u for spotting that anyway!! :-)
Non-EEA (McCarthy Transitional Arrangement case)
PR card rec/dated:28 April 17
British Citizen: Dec 17

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Post by noajthan » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:58 pm

softy monster wrote:I know what you are saying but:
*She's self employed so therefor she doesn't need WRS,
...
*Also we're expecting a baby @ the same time as when applying for my PR as non-eea in Oct 2016! But I rather wait for the baby first to come and then apply soon after
and include that too!

*thank u for spotting that anyway!! :-)
Sounds good,
Baby will be blessed as born British (one parent is BC and child to be born in UK); apply directly for passport for baby.
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Post by softy monster » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:35 pm

noajthan wrote:
softy monster wrote:I know what you are saying but:
*She's self employed so therefor she doesn't need WRS,
...
*Also we're expecting a baby @ the same time as when applying for my PR as non-eea in Oct 2016! But I rather wait for the baby first to come and then apply soon after
and include that too!

*thank u for spotting that anyway!! :-)
Sounds good,
Baby will be blessed as born British (one parent is BC and child to be born in UK); apply directly for passport for baby.
Thanks, I think had a good plan, except when I found out about dual EEA national/British citizen could cause problem for their family members which I am one of them till I read about the McCarthy rules which were set out on July 2012 which was just after when I obtained my RC based on unmarried partners relationship
Btw thanks for the baby wishes/blessing! we are here learning coz of you guys! may god bless you all :-)
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British Citizen: Dec 17

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Post by LoryAndra » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:57 am

Dear all,

I have just received yesterday my PR. I would like to thank you all for your advice and help.

Below is my timeine , as an EU nationality.

Posted: 29/03/2016
Received : 30/03/2016
Payment taken 05/04/2016
Confirmation email: 26/04/2016
PR dated : 20/06/2016
PR received at home by special delivery: 23/06/2016

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