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UKF is a bit of a specialist form without much discussion on the forum.Kentrish wrote:Hey! I recently became eligible for British Citizenship (was previously exempt from citizenship due to my parents not being married at the time of my birth). However with section 65 of the immigration act of 2014 now active I can apply, but I have found the forms somewhat confusing (I have never done anything like this before) and perhaps orientated towards applications from people already living in the U.K. I am super excited and would love to live and work in the U.K so I will describe my situation below and than ask a few questions about the things on the forms I am not sure about. Thanks so much for the help guys (I have had trouble finding proper answers from various other and official channels).
I am currently 24 years old, I was born in Australia and have lived in Australia my entire life. My Father was born in England before moving her with his parents as a child. My father has dual citizenship (Australian and British citizenship) not by descent. He has an expired british passport as well as a british birth certificate. He was not married to my mother at the time of my birth however he was listed as my father on my birth certificate that was issued at my birth. My questions about the form are as follows.
1) Unfortunately both my grandparents are now deceased, but I do have access to their birth certificates ect. Are these necessary?
2) I do not currently have an Australian passport yet the application asks for its number, should I get one before the application.
3) I need 2 references, and it is strongly recommended that one reference has a British passport. I have multiple people willing to give me a great reference but being in Australian none of them have British passports (other than family members which can't do it).
4) Finally and most importantly biometrics. Can I get them registered in Australia or will I actually have to travel to the UK to get them registered (this is rather expensive and I was hoping to travel to the UK once I actually had citizenship). Can I do my application without them?
5) Sorry on last question, once I finally manage to get my application down I must attend a ceremony within 3 months to pledge allegiance ect. Where abouts in Australia can I do this? I am currently living in Melbourne.
I am really hoping I can register entirely while being in Australia, that will save my a vast amount of money and time traveling to the UK. Money that I will need to eventually make the move there. I would hate to spend thousands in flights ect only to have my application rejected.
Thanks so much for any help guys!
4. Not sure - suggest ask via British embassyIf you are living abroad and do not know a British citizen who is qualified to act as one of your referees, a Commonwealth citizen or citizen of the country in which you are residing may complete and sign the form, provided he/she has professional standing in that country, has known you for three years and the Consul considers his/her signature to be acceptable
Hi Kentrish, I'm in a similar situation as yours.Kentrish wrote:Hey! I recently became eligible for British Citizenship (was previously exempt from citizenship due to my parents not being married at the time of my birth). However with section 65 of the immigration act of 2014 now active I can apply, but I have found the forms somewhat confusing (I have never done anything like this before) and perhaps orientated towards applications from people already living in the U.K. I am super excited and would love to live and work in the U.K so I will describe my situation below and than ask a few questions about the things on the forms I am not sure about. Thanks so much for the help guys (I have had trouble finding proper answers from various other and official channels).
I am currently 24 years old, I was born in Australia and have lived in Australia my entire life. My Father was born in England before moving her with his parents as a child. My father has dual citizenship (Australian and British citizenship) not by descent. He has an expired british passport as well as a british birth certificate. He was not married to my mother at the time of my birth however he was listed as my father on my birth certificate that was issued at my birth. My questions about the form are as follows.
1) Unfortunately both my grandparents are now deceased, but I do have access to their birth certificates ect. Are these necessary?
2) I do not currently have an Australian passport yet the application asks for its number, should I get one before the application.
3) I need 2 references, and it is strongly recommended that one reference has a British passport. I have multiple people willing to give me a great reference but being in Australian none of them have British passports (other than family members which can't do it).
4) Finally and most importantly biometrics. Can I get them registered in Australia or will I actually have to travel to the UK to get them registered (this is rather expensive and I was hoping to travel to the UK once I actually had citizenship). Can I do my application without them?
5) Sorry on last question, once I finally manage to get my application down I must attend a ceremony within 3 months to pledge allegiance ect. Where abouts in Australia can I do this? I am currently living in Melbourne.
I am really hoping I can register entirely while being in Australia, that will save my a vast amount of money and time traveling to the UK. Money that I will need to eventually make the move there. I would hate to spend thousands in flights ect only to have my application rejected.
Thanks so much for any help guys!
Yep, this is as I understand it. Though I don't think I need my grandparents birth certificates (and marriage certificates) as my father was born in the UK and lived there. He also has a British passport (and an old expired one I am using for my application) that shows he is a full British citizen (not by descent).vinny wrote:Note that only British citizens may apply for British passports.
You are not yet a British citizen since
your parents were never married to each other and
your mother was not British otherwise than by descent at the time of your birth and
your mother was not employed by the British Crown Service at the time of your birth and
you were born prior to 1st July 2006 and
you were not born in the UK.
Since you were born after 1983, your grandparents birth certificates (and possibly their marriage certificate) may be required to establish that your father was British otherwise than by descent. Your natural father was British otherwise by descent, but the BNA 1981 does not recognize him as your father because he was never married to your mother and you were born prior to 1st July 2006. If your parents had been married to each other, then you would have been automatically British.
I think that you are entitled to register under Section 4H.
Were your parents married?samnz19 wrote:Hi im pretty sure i'm eligible as my father was born in UK to British parents.
My question is: It says i need the following documents but my father just has birth certificate and passport, not the others. If he was registered as British at birth why would he have them anyway??
You will need your fathers full birth certificate and passport, and either:
Your fathers certificate of naturalisation or registration as a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or, before 1 January 1949, as a British subject);
or his Papers showing his legal adoption;
or his His expired citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies passport
Kentrish wrote:Hey! I recently became eligible for British Citizenship (was previously exempt from citizenship due to my parents not being married at the time of my birth). However with section 65 of the immigration act of 2014 now active I can apply, but I have found the forms somewhat confusing (I have never done anything like this before) and perhaps orientated towards applications from people already living in the U.K. I am super excited and would love to live and work in the U.K so I will describe my situation below and than ask a few questions about the things on the forms I am not sure about. Thanks so much for the help guys (I have had trouble finding proper answers from various other and official channels).
I am currently 24 years old, I was born in Australia and have lived in Australia my entire life. My Father was born in England before moving her with his parents as a child. My father has dual citizenship (Australian and British citizenship) not by descent. He has an expired british passport as well as a british birth certificate. He was not married to my mother at the time of my birth however he was listed as my father on my birth certificate that was issued at my birth. My questions about the form are as follows.
1) Unfortunately both my grandparents are now deceased, but I do have access to their birth certificates ect. Are these necessary?
2) I do not currently have an Australian passport yet the application asks for its number, should I get one before the application.
3) I need 2 references, and it is strongly recommended that one reference has a British passport. I have multiple people willing to give me a great reference but being in Australian none of them have British passports (other than family members which can't do it).
4) Finally and most importantly biometrics. Can I get them registered in Australia or will I actually have to travel to the UK to get them registered (this is rather expensive and I was hoping to travel to the UK once I actually had citizenship). Can I do my application without them?
5) Sorry on last question, once I finally manage to get my application down I must attend a ceremony within 3 months to pledge allegiance ect. Where abouts in Australia can I do this? I am currently living in Melbourne.
I am really hoping I can register entirely while being in Australia, that will save my a vast amount of money and time traveling to the UK. Money that I will need to eventually make the move there. I would hate to spend thousands in flights ect only to have my application rejected.
Thanks so much for any help guys!