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Hello Vinny,
So did wife take and pass an official test from official provider?Muralij19 wrote:BAD Quality i.e. Counterfit.
Was the the certificate obtained fraudulently or not? You seem to be dancing around the question saying it maybe was but not your fault. If it was fraudulent things are pretty serious and ILR may be be on the table, if not, you can fight your corner.Muralij19 wrote:If I am going all way negative, assuming the certificate was counterfit and was provided by other test prep company, then Admin review is not going to help. I yet to seek solicitor advice to put my point forward. Main worry, if prepare again for LIUK test and then can my depndent spouse can re-apply for ILR?
Your or wife must know what wife did and where that certificate came from. It can't have accidentally fallen into your mailbox uninvited.Muralij19 wrote:If I am going all way negative, assuming the certificate was counterfit and was provided by other test prep company, then Admin review is not going to help. I yet to seek solicitor advice to put my point forward. Main worry, if prepare again for LIUK test and then can my depndent spouse can re-apply for ILR?
Ref https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... ctober.pdfA person who uses deception (whether successful or not) in seeking leave to enter or remain and is found to have no legal entitlement or protection need to allow them to stay in the UK may be prosecuted under section 24A of the Immigration Act 1971
What are the options left for my spouse? I am on ILR, our yound son on ILR and now spouse is falling 322(1A) counterfit document. Still last leave to remain is valid for few more months and resident card is returned. Please suggest any way.Muralij19 wrote:Hello Vinny,
Thank you for your response. This was LIUK test. I contacted onme of the test prepration company and then spouse got certificate. Now UKBA is saying that the LIUK certificate is bad quality. I have yet to seek solicitor advice. Please suggest any hope remains?
Regards,
MJ
My understanding is:Muralij19 wrote:Agree with you Noajthan, since in rejection letter paragraph 322(1A) is applied so in next ILR for dependent, what can be expected? Rejection with 322(2)/322(2A)? Or shall I put forward the application via solicitor with human rights appeal since we have young son with ILR.
The avenue for challenging a refusal of an upgrade application is judicial review.
For example where an applicant has leave to remain as a partner and makes an application for indefinite leave to remain which is refused there is no right of appeal against that refusal.
If indeed it is a forged document, then a solicitor cannot change anything. The fact your child has ILR may not change much if he is not a British citizen or has lived here for 7 years.Muralij19 wrote:I am talking to solictor on this so going slow. I'll update soon.
Answer these questions and get an honest opinion free of charge (much better than your paid solicitor)CR001 wrote:Did your wife actually sit and WRITE the test? YES or NO
Did you contact someone and they charged you to only produce a certificate? YES or NO (I ask this as I have seen the 'notes' in shop windows offering such service)
Do you realise that once a test is taken at an approved test centre and the certificate issued, the details are uploaded electronically to HO.
I might be going out on a limb here but my money is on deceit.UKBALoveStory wrote:Answer these questions and get an honest opinion free of charge (much better than your paid solicitor)CR001 wrote:Did your wife actually sit and WRITE the test? YES or NO
Did you contact someone and they charged you to only produce a certificate? YES or NO (I ask this as I have seen the 'notes' in shop windows offering such service)
Do you realise that once a test is taken at an approved test centre and the certificate issued, the details are uploaded electronically to HO.
I'll update you shortly. Thank you for your support and comments so far. Please don't close this communication because it might take few days to have an update.Wanderer wrote:I might be going out on a limb here but my money is on deceit.UKBALoveStory wrote:Answer these questions and get an honest opinion free of charge (much better than your paid solicitor)CR001 wrote:Did your wife actually sit and WRITE the test? YES or NO
Did you contact someone and they charged you to only produce a certificate? YES or NO (I ask this as I have seen the 'notes' in shop windows offering such service)
Do you realise that once a test is taken at an approved test centre and the certificate issued, the details are uploaded electronically to HO.
It won't be closed, but if you see a solicitor and they ask you the same questions, what are you going to answer? Because that is the key to this whole situation. From your earlier description, "I contacted one of the test preparation companies and then spouse got certificate", that's not how it works. Maybe you thought it did? I'm assuming you took a LITUK test?Muralij19 wrote:I'll update you shortly. Thank you for your support and comments so far. Please don't close this communication because it might take few days to have an update.CR001 wrote:Did your wife actually sit and WRITE the test? YES or NO
Did you contact someone and they charged you to only produce a certificate? YES or NO (I ask this as I have seen the 'notes' in shop windows offering such service)
Do you realise that once a test is taken at an approved test centre and the certificate issued, the details are uploaded electronically to HO.
Members aren't permitted to post recommendations for legal services on the open forum.Purdamit wrote:can you please provide me any solicitor details as i have another refusal issue
i think this forum is to help the one in need right???????????Casa wrote:Members aren't permitted to post recommendations for legal services on the open forum.Purdamit wrote:can you please provide me any solicitor details as i have another refusal issue
Yes, but not line some solicitors pocket, based on recommendations from total strangers.Purdamit wrote:i think this forum is to help the one in need right???????????Casa wrote:Members aren't permitted to post recommendations for legal services on the open forum.Purdamit wrote:can you please provide me any solicitor details as i have another refusal issue