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ANGELA LIMA
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Child Born Abroad Dad Permanent Resident

Post by ANGELA LIMA » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:45 pm

Dear all,

A child was born in Brazil in 2001, who is now 15 years old. Father registered her as his child on the birth certificate. Father is Brazilian. Father and Mother never married.Father came to UK , and got married to an Italian national in 2010, and as he is married for 6 years , he has permanent residence in the UK . All this time he was working. I dont know if he applied to be British.

Now the child who is 15 years old, wants to come to UK, but the father doesnt want to help her, because of jeously of his new wife.

1)What is her(child) rights under EEU Law, and in the UK?
2) Can she legally come to UK to live here?
3) How can we know if the father has applied for British Citizenship or PR?

Please reply to help me to help this child.

Thanks

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Re: Child Born Abroad Dad Permanent Resident

Post by Wanderer » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:49 pm

What is the Nationality of the Mother?
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

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Re: Child Born Abroad Dad Permanent Resident

Post by ANGELA LIMA » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:51 pm

Wanderer wrote:What is the Nationality of the Mother?
The mother is Brazilian

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Re: Child Born Abroad Dad Permanent Resident

Post by ANGELA LIMA » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:52 pm

Thanks for your help.

The mother is Brazilian

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Re: Child Born Abroad Dad Permanent Resident

Post by Wanderer » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:59 pm

If the father doesn't want to be responsible for the child, I can't see any route into EU. Child can't live alone at 15...
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Re: Child Born Abroad Dad Permanent Resident

Post by ANGELA LIMA » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:03 pm

Thanks for your reply.

She will turn 16 on January,

So, I do think she can come to UK.

Which options does she have?

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Re: Child Born Abroad Dad Permanent Resident

Post by ohara » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:49 pm

ANGELA LIMA wrote:3) How can we know if the father has applied for British Citizenship or PR?
You could ask him.

Unless he has his nationality listed somewhere public, for example on Companies House if he is a director, or perhaps the electoral roll if he is registered to vote, it will probably be difficult for you to find out.

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Re: Child Born Abroad Dad Permanent Resident

Post by noajthan » Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:42 pm

ANGELA LIMA wrote:Dear all,

A child was born in Brazil in 2001, who is now 15 years old. Father registered her as his child on the birth certificate. Father is Brazilian. Father and Mother never married.Father came to UK , and got married to an Italian national in 2010, and as he is married for 6 years , he has permanent residence in the UK . All this time he was working. I dont know if he applied to be British.

Now the child who is 15 years old, wants to come to UK, but the father doesnt want to help her, because of jeously of his new wife.

1)What is her(child) rights under EEU Law, and in the UK?
2) Can she legally come to UK to live here?
3) How can we know if the father has applied for British Citizenship or PR?

Please reply to help me to help this child.

Thanks
1) No EEA rights; why would there be.

2) Maybe.

Come with whom?
Where is mom?
Mom's immigration status?
Who has custody/responsibility for child?

Unless Dad has cut all ties this will be hard to achieve.

3) If no relations with Dad then no real right to find out, apart from what may be in public record.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Child Born Abroad Dad Permanent Resident

Post by ANGELA LIMA » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:06 pm

Thanks for all your help.

Replying to the questions :

1) She will come with her mum, or alone. She speaks English and can work.

The problem is the father who doesnt want to help her. I can help, the problem is the immigration status.

I thought that she would be entitle to live legally in the UK, because of her father.

If you guys could clarify I do appreciate.

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Re: Child Born Abroad Dad Permanent Resident

Post by noajthan » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:44 pm

ANGELA LIMA wrote:Thanks for all your help.

Replying to the questions :

1) She will come with her mum, or alone. She speaks English and can work.

The problem is the father who doesnt want to help her. I can help, the problem is the immigration status.

I thought that she would be entitle to live legally in the UK, because of her father.

If you guys could clarify I do appreciate.
An estranged father who may or may not be British now can not help a foreign-born child gain any sort of status in UK.

The only benefit fom an estranged father is it gives child slightly better cgance of gaining a visa via mother. If joint parenting but separated/without sole custody then there's no realistic chance.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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