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Permanent Residency

Post by mzotti » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:18 pm

I am an Italian citizen and was issued with an UK "Registration Certificate" card in 2007, I don't remember exactly the process I went through to obtain it as I had some help from a friend. It has no expiration date and all it says is, Type of Document: Registration Certificate. I would like to apply for the Permanent Residence card for my wife and kids (They are all Italian citizens) but first I would like to establish whether my undated registration certificate is already the Permanent Resident card (because it has no expiration date?) so that the application (EEAPR) for my family members will be simpler and I don't have to go through the process of applying for it again (for myself).

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Re: Permanent Residency

Post by noajthan » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:08 pm

A DCPR expires after 10 years.
A RC after 5 years.

Where are you now?
What have you been doing since 2007?
Have you enjoyed prolonged absences from UK?

Do you gave ambitions of citizenship?
If so you will need a DCPR too.

Where are family members?
Activities since 2007?
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Re: Permanent Residency

Post by Obie » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:11 pm

mzotti wrote:I am an Italian citizen and was issued with an UK "Registration Certificate" card in 2007, I don't remember exactly the process I went through to obtain it as I had some help from a friend. It has no expiration date and all it says is, Type of Document: Registration Certificate. I would like to apply for the Permanent Residence card for my wife and kids (They are all Italian citizens) but first I would like to establish whether my undated registration certificate is already the Permanent Resident card (because it has no expiration date?) so that the application (EEAPR) for my family members will be simpler and I don't have to go through the process of applying for it again (for myself).
Registration certificate has no validity. It does not confer a rightbof Permanent Residence, which is acquired only once the conditions in Regulations 15 (1)(a) are met.
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Re: Permanent Residency

Post by ohara » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:22 am

noajthan wrote:A DCPR expires after 10 years.
My DCPR does not have an expiration date :o

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Re: Permanent Residency

Post by noajthan » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:31 am

ohara wrote:
noajthan wrote:A DCPR expires after 10 years.
My DCPR does not have an expiration date :o
I'm not sure what OP has.

But DCPR will still expire in 10 years:
http://www.eearegulations.co.uk/Archive/V20150406
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Re: Permanent Residency

Post by ohara » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:35 am

noajthan wrote:
ohara wrote:
noajthan wrote:A DCPR expires after 10 years.
My DCPR does not have an expiration date :o
I'm not sure what OP has.

But DCPR will still expire in 10 years:
http://www.eearegulations.co.uk/Archive/V20150406
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Ah yes - permanent residence card for non-EEA family members lasts 10 years, as the security features in the card get updated often - just like the UK BRP's (see the threads where people are asking about their ILR BRP having an expiration date earlier than 10 years as there is a new generation of security features being implemented in 2025 I think).

DCPR is just a sticker and doesn't expire. Mine has a section which says Document Renewal Date and it is blank.

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Re: Permanent Residency

Post by noajthan » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:49 am

Interesting to note that docs issued in earlier years appear to have contained an expiry date:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/europe ... 82825.html

A SAR from UKVI may help clarify what OP actually has.

@mzotti , how long had you lived in UK before 2007 - and what had you been doing before 2007?

Where are you now?
What have you been doing since 2007?
Have you enjoyed prolonged absences from UK?

Do you gave ambitions of citizenship?
If so you will need a DCPR too.

Where are family members?
Their activities since 2007?
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Permanent Residency

Post by mzotti » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:57 pm

noajthan wrote:Interesting to note that docs issued in earlier years appear to have contained an expiry date:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/europe ... 82825.html

A SAR from UKVI may help clarify what OP actually has.

@mzotti , how long had you lived in UK before 2007 - and what had you been doing before 2007?

Where are you now?
What have you been doing since 2007?
Have you enjoyed prolonged absences from UK?

Do you gave ambitions of citizenship?
If so you will need a DCPR too.

Where are family members?
Their activities since 2007?

@noajthan, your questions answered below:

Arrived in the UK in 2006
I am still in the UK
Working / exercising Treaty rights as a self employer
No prolonged absences from UK
I pretend to apply for naturalization 1 year after I am issued with the a permanent residence card.
All family members in the UK

And one last question... The EEAPR form is based on a "qualifying period", does this period can be any of my choice since when I completed 5 years of residence & exercising the treaty rights or the latest period relative to the date I am applying?

Thanks

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Re: Permanent Residency

Post by noajthan » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:34 pm

mzotti wrote:@noajthan, your questions answered below:

Arrived in the UK in 2006
I am still in the UK
Working / exercising Treaty rights as a self employer
No prolonged absences from UK
I pretend to apply for naturalization 1 year after I am issued with the a permanent residence card.
All family members in the UK

And one last question... The EEAPR form is based on a "qualifying period", does this period can be any of my choice since when I completed 5 years of residence & exercising the treaty rights or the latest period relative to the date I am applying?

Thanks
So if arrived in 2006 the document you received is a RC as you hadn't had time to acquire PR by 2007.

You don't 'choose' a period for PR. Its not simply about the last 5 years.

By virtue of exercising treaty rights for a continuous 5 years period you acquire PR automatically.
All you apply for is confirmation of this status in the form of DCR.
Before thinking about naturalising you will need to do this first as proof of settled status (PR) is now required in the form of DCPR for Union citizens.

As you entered UK in 2006 you may have acquired PR by as early 2011.
Submit rock-solid supporting evidence to support your case and to show you have resided in UK eversince.

EEA family members may apply for confirmation of PR in their own right if they are qualified persons.
Or you may act as sponsor of dependent family members.
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