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Irish wife live and work in the UK

Post by Sorry2 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:29 pm

Hi All,
Thank you so much in advance.

I need advise for my friend he is originally from Pakistan his wife Irish, both live and work here in the UK.

1.Married 2012 in the UK
2.Surprise visit by home office 2013, he was not there.
3.Refused by Home Office.
4.Appealed,questioned by judge,granted right to stay.
5.Home Office appealed and won case.
6.Appealed again by my friend, went to High Court-refused again.
7.Awaiting Now Judicial Review.
8.Letter from Home Office Re-detainment ,7 days to 3 months .
9.Plan go to Ireland and apply from there.

Please let me know what you think about this and can he go apply from Ireland or apply from Ireland embassy in the UK or what to do?

Once again, thank you so much for this.

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Re: Irish wife live and work in the UK

Post by Wanderer » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:33 pm

What did he appy for?
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

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Re: Irish wife live and work in the UK

Post by secret.simon » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:44 pm

And what were the grounds of refusal?
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Re: Irish wife live and work in the UK

Post by Wanderer » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:08 pm

And what, is the average airspeed volocity of an unladen Swallow?
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

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Re: Irish wife live and work in the UK

Post by Sorry2 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:14 pm

Wanderer wrote:What did he appy for?
EEA spouse visa

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Re: Irish wife live and work in the UK

Post by Sorry2 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:17 pm

secret.simon wrote:And what were the grounds of refusal?
sham marriage

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Re: Irish wife live and work in the UK

Post by CR001 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:23 pm

Sorry2 wrote:
Wanderer wrote:What did he appy for?
EEA spouse visa
There is no such visa. EEA/EU route applications are residence permits and are NOT visas.

What was the persons visa status in the UK marriage in 2012?
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Re: Irish wife live and work in the UK

Post by Sorry2 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:36 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sorry2 wrote:
Wanderer wrote:What did he appy for?
EEA spouse visa
There is no such visa. EEA/EU route applications are residence permits and are NOT visas.

What was the persons visa status in the UK marriage in 2012?
Hi CR001,
Thank you for replaying to me, i was waiting specially you as you helped me a lot 3 years ago .

Basically his status was spouse visa, i know its a bit complicated but this is the fact he came here in spouse visa but he end with the 1st wife, then he married the Irish wife.

Thanks again CR001

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Re: Irish wife live and work in the UK

Post by CR001 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:39 pm

You will need to provide a bit more information. Might be better for your friend to register and post.

When did he come on a spouse visa initially?

When did marriage break down with first spouse?

When did relationship start with Irish wife?

When did his spouse visa expire?
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Re: Irish wife live and work in the UK

Post by Sorry2 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:13 pm

CR001 wrote:You will need to provide a bit more information. Might be better for your friend to register and post.

When did he come on a spouse visa initially?

When did marriage break down with first spouse?

When did relationship start with Irish wife?

When did his spouse visa expire?

Thanks CR001 for your replay


When did he come on a spouse visa initially? 2010

When did marriage break down with first spouse? 2011

When did relationship start with Irish wife? 2011 married on April 2012

When did his spouse visa expire? Feb 2012

Thanks again

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Re: Irish wife live and work in the UK

Post by noajthan » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:23 pm

Spouse visa only covered wife #1

A spouse visa cannot be transferred willy nilly from one wife to next wife. So it should have become invalidated on first relationship breakdown/divorce.

So hubby had no spouse visa applicable to 2nd wife in 2012.

Is second wife just Irish (no other nationality?)
Is Irish wife a settled/qualified person - and was she in 2012?

Where was hubby in 2013 when enforcement officers failed to find him (which country)?

UK and Eire share immigration intelligence due to CTA etc,
If couple cannot show they are a valid couple in UK (and/or sponsor has not been exercising treaty rights in UK) then going to Eire is not going to fly very well.
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