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PR after overstaying

Post by Daniann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:20 am

Guys ,
I am really confused...
I was overstayed in 2011 for 7 month then I had 5 years visa based on my EEA wife ( am family member of EEA)
And now both we applied for PR ,
If I have granted PR I can't apply for BC after 12 month from the PR date because I was overstayed in 2011????
Please can some one explain that if give me correct openion ?
Thanks

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by Daniann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:44 am

Daniann wrote:Guys ,
I am really confused...
I was overstayed in 2011 for 7 month then I had 5 years visa based on my EEA wife ( am family member of EEA)
And now both we applied for PR ,
If I have granted PR I can't apply for BC after 12 month from the PR date because I was overstayed in 2011????
Please can some one explain that if give me correct openion ?
Thanks
Please anyone can give me opinion about my question ?

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by noajthan » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:45 am

All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by ohara » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:57 am

The 10 year ban starts from when you become legal. It sounds like you became legal when you married your EEA spouse in 2011, therefore an application for citizenship before 2021 would probably be unsuccessful.

Also you don't get granted PR, you have either acquired it or you haven't. You are only apply for confirmation.
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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by Daniann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:57 am

Thank you Noajthan,
But I went through the link you sent me and it didn't say anything about overstayed and in the same time I don't have any kind of criminal record.
If follow this link

https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen
It say ( not broken any immigration laws while in the Uk)
And I was overstayed for 7 month before I had my 5 years visa as family member of EEA
So is that mean I can't apply for BC after I have PR ?

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by Daniann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:01 pm

ohara wrote:The 10 year ban starts from when you become legal. It sounds like you became legal when you married your EEA spouse in 2011, therefore an application for citizenship before 2021 would probably be unsuccessful.

Also you don't get granted PR, you have either acquired it or you haven't. You are only apply for confirmation.
But the standard requirement for BC through EEA law say 12 month after PR? I never heard about 10 years ?

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by ohara » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:08 pm

One of the requirements:
you’re of good character, for example, you don’t have a serious or recent criminal record, and you haven’t tried to deceive the Home Office or been involved in immigration offences in the last 10 years
As you have been in breach of immigration law (your period of overstay), you have most likely attracted the 10 year ban.

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by Daniann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:12 pm

ohara wrote:One of the requirements:
you’re of good character, for example, you don’t have a serious or recent criminal record, and you haven’t tried to deceive the Home Office or been involved in immigration offences in the last 10 years
As you have been in breach of immigration law (your period of overstay), you have most likely attracted the 10 year ban.
Being overstayed for 7 month considered as immigration offences..!

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by ohara » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:19 pm

Yes.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 060412.pdf
Overstaying Section 24(1)
(b)(i)
Offence of knowingly remaining
beyond the time limited by leave.
As for section
24(1)(a).
The offence is committed on the day
the person first knows his leave has
expired and continues to be committed
throughout any period during which
he thereafter remains in the United
Kingdom.

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by Daniann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:24 pm

ohara wrote:Yes.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 060412.pdf
Overstaying Section 24(1)
(b)(i)
Offence of knowingly remaining
beyond the time limited by leave.
As for section
24(1)(a).
The offence is committed on the day
the person first knows his leave has
expired and continues to be committed
throughout any period during which
he thereafter remains in the United
Kingdom.
Ok
If my wife became BC is that will affect my PR ?do I need to change to another route!
It's really start to be complicated

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by ohara » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:27 pm

Daniann wrote:Ok
If my wife became BC is that will affect my PR ?do I need to change to another route!
It's really start to be complicated
As long as you have actually acquired PR, then no it will have no effect if your wife becomes a BC. I suggest you wait until you have your PR card before you wife becomes British.

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by Daniann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:35 pm

ohara wrote:
Daniann wrote:Ok
If my wife became BC is that will affect my PR ?do I need to change to another route!
It's really start to be complicated
As long as you have actually acquired PR, then no it will have no effect if your wife becomes a BC. I suggest you wait until you have your PR card before you wife becomes British.
Ok thank you
I have one question ,I was overstayed because at that time start civil war in my country ( am Syrian ) ,do you think the HO take that into consideration and dosnt consider my overstayed as criminal offences so I could apply for BC 12 month after the PR

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by ohara » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:00 pm

Did you apply for asylum?

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by Daniann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:11 pm

ohara wrote:Did you apply for asylum?
No I didn't

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by CR001 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:41 pm

Then you were an overstayer and this will count against you if you make an application for citizenship 12 months after PR as you will fail the good character requirement.
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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by Daniann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:58 pm

CR001 wrote:Then you were an overstayer and this will count against you if you make an application for citizenship 12 months after PR as you will fail the good character requirement.
Ok I understand

But is that will have any impact on my child ( we planning to have child next year ) I mean they will be British ? ...
I was hoping to get BC the same time with my lovely wife so our child will be British

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by Daniann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:58 pm

CR001 wrote:Then you were an overstayer and this will count against you if you make an application for citizenship 12 months after PR as you will fail the good character requirement.
Ok I understand

But is that will have any impact on my child ( we planning to have child next year ) I mean they will be British ? ...
I was hoping to get BC the same time with my lovely wife so our child will be British

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by CR001 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:00 pm

If you have PR, then your child will be automatically British.
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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by Daniann » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:07 pm

CR001 wrote:If you have PR, then your child will be automatically British.
Perfect that what I need to be sure from . And I am happy to wait it's didn't matter for me ..
thank you

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Re: PR after overstaying

Post by secret.simon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:13 pm

CR001 wrote:If you have PR, then your child will be automatically British.
Only if born in the UK. If born abroad, it will have the status of the less-privileged parent.
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