- FAQ
- Login
- Register
- Call Workpermit.com for a paid service +44 (0)344-991-9222
ESC
Welcome to immigrationboards.com!
Moderators: Casa, Amber, archigabe, batleykhan, ca.funke, ChetanOjha, EUsmileWEallsmile, JAJ, John, Obie, push, geriatrix, vinny, CR001, zimba, meself2
You may not be too familiar with the concepts and vocabulary underpinning your EU migration adventure; its not all intuitive nor part of colloquial English.Gaston wrote:Don't know why but I'm looking for an advice and be positive, but you seem to be trying to be against it.
I came here thinking that many of users, you as moderator including, must have come across Blue Card many times and know what I am talking about.
How can I be called illegal if I had payslips, P60's, financial statements and NI contributions statements, being sent to me without no issue?
Could I please ask you to refrain from advising me and let other users that might be well intended as you are, to share their opinion.
I am just being honest and looking for help in this matter, which it seems that you do either cannot/not willing to give at this time.
I look forward for all the opinions to come.
Thank you
I have reassured you and told you you may still apply, regardless, for DCPR (as there is no concept of good character in the EU route; there is ofcourse for citizenship).I'm worried that they will see how many hours I've worked
Just collate and send all evidence, the caseworker will determine the case and whether they will confirm that you have acquired PR. They know the drill.If you did then all good
You've got the wrong end of the stick.Gaston wrote:Something's not clear to me..if you think there's even the remotest posibility that it was illegal before Blue Card, why do you advise me to send eveything?
You could not apply for Blue Card without prior having Yellow Card. That's how it was for romanians and bulgarians before 2011, and I assumed you knew it.
I've no idea what CSI or WRS are, and since I know quite few people to have applied for PR and citizenship and succeeded, and nobody mentioned them - don't see why should I get this complicated.
Telling me to gather all the paperwork regardless and send it and hope for good doesn't sound right.
I've read numerous topics/posts on here, where it's been said basically..."the more evidence you send, the easier and more inclined they are to find issues and refuse it". Also more reasons for some square head manager to change rules and make the application more complicated.
This is not me arguing and definetly isn't about the £65, but it is about.."once tried, they know what's coming" and I don't want this.
I've experienced it with Blue Card, 3 times I've sent what they asked me to, it took 5 months, until they changed the case worker and he sorted it and delivered it in a week.
I know you're well intended, but don't wanna risk it. I'll wait for more opinions from different people.
Thank you so much
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _clean.pdfIf the EU2 national worked without authorisation while they were subject to that requirement, this will not count as legal residence for the purposes of acquiring permanent residence, nor will any subsequent unauthorised work undertaken during the transitional period.
Get up to speed on qualified persons here:Gaston wrote:Okay.. the History
First entry April 2008
Contact with NVQ provider made
Placement(read full time job 40h/week) starts May 2008
NINO- can't remember date ~ May 2008
1)Employer change(actually same owner, different cities) July 2008
No CSI - just read here http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... 13-20.html there's no need..
Yellow Card - can't remember date but 2008 for sure
Sept 2009 - application for Blue Card, arrived Feb 2010.
Same employer 40h/week up Feb 2012
...
2)New employer Apr 2012- Apr 2014
Contract says 20h/week, reality(payslip) 30- 50hours/week
All payslips, 1 P60, and P45 same year.
3) new employer Apr 2014- present
40h/week, Full payslips, obviously 2 P60s.
...
Yellow card I believe it was - 20h/week work as part of study
Blue Card -no restrictions
http://www.airecentre.org/data/files/TF ... n_Note.pdfFor the purposes of acquiring permanent residence, the UK authorities are unlikely to consider that periods of unauthorised work in the UK where such authorisation was required, prior to 1 January 2014, can be considered as periods of legal residence.
The three months grace period applies to every Union citizen who travels to a.n.other memberstate.Gaston wrote:ok first link https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _clean.pdf
I'm interested in second ''condition'', namely..If an EU2 national student wished to work along with, or as part of, their studies, and they
were not otherwise exempt from worker authorisation, they first had to get a yellow
registration certificate. This allowed the student to work:
for up to 20 hours each week during term-time (in work not related to their course)
full-time while undertaking a work placement which forms part of a vocational training
course
full-time during vacation periods
full-time for the four months following the end of their course (provided they actually
complete the course)
For further information, see related link: Bulgarian and Romanian casework: yellow
registration certificates (archive).Which is what happened, my job was part of the NVQ.<full-time while undertaking a work placement which forms part of a vocational training>.
I've looked quite briefly at second link, because I'm on dinner break..
http://www.airecentre.org/data/files/TF ... n_Note.pdf
There's something interesting here, it might help my caseThank you so much for your help.<Bulgarian and Romanian nationals had a right of residence in the UK without exercising a Treaty
right for the first three months of their stay.>
Answers to your questions:
I believe I was working before the Yellow Card, can't say for sure.
I did work full time permanently, but the first link suggests that is possible <full-time while undertaking a work placement which forms part of a vocational training>
Forgot to add some info, although you mentioned character at this stage might not matter..I only got out of UK 4 times:
2009 - 9 days
2010 - 12 days(2 times 6 days each)
2011 - 6 days
This is it..got some commendation at work from customers, probably can get good character reference from manager.
Should I contact my ex(she is born british) and ask her if she can be my sponsor for the duration up to Blue Card?
Can't thank you enough
Address at time would have been appropriate address. But there seems little point filling in that address now.Gaston wrote:Right..
The HO letter that came with Blue Card says I have to sign and complete the address section. Ive signed it then, but address left it blank. Should i fill in old address to which the HO letter was addressed to?
...
Still looking maybe I can find dates about Yellow Card
You just need to pin down the date of issue of that yellow card.Gaston wrote:I believe it used to be a 12 months period on Yellow Card, after which you were entitled to applied for Blue Card. I've applied in Sept 2009 because I had my holiday In August 2009, and didn't bother with all the paperwork.
So logically had the Yellow Card before August 2008. Almost convinced that it was actually the College that facilitated the application for Yellow Card, we(there were quite few of us through NVQ) paid the College some heavy amount of money especially at that time.
What makes me be so convinced about this fact is that the College gave us those papers(enrolment, confirmation etc) with their address, telephone number etc, also the choice of paying in instalment via direct debit(6 months I think).
So it could've all go wrong for College, if we weren't "right " legally, especially some of the students could barely mutter some words in english.
I know this is nothing but talk, and what matters finally is solid evidence.
Should I chase the College for NVQ certificate ? Would it help? I was annoyed at the time (and everyone else) because they were asking for extra money in order to send me certificate £50-£100. And told them to stuff it ...and so did everyone. Unfortunately we (students)haven't kept in touch
I would lay all cards on the table.Gaston wrote:Hey noajthan,
Ready to send my application..on the above form.
I've got section 3 and 3.1 asks which way did I exercise treaty rights: employement, self, study etc.
Is it alright to omit(not mention) the study?
Also is it ok to mention employement as from the date I need the 6 years for PR? Eg Blue Card came in Feb 2010, but I could mention employement from March 2010, which is still almost 7 years with treaty rights?
Am I being crazy..missing something?
Tried to talk to the College and ask for copy of my records, but apparently they're moving address, or there is no assesor in here and all sorts of other excuses..3 days in a row. They've been a pain from begining(2008), so really don't wanna wait and get myself without time to apply.
One more thing, printed twice the form but it comes with missprints..like this
https://m.imgur.com/a/R64FW . Twice printed it at library, would it be an issue?
Just happy to help out in any small way if I'm able.Gaston wrote:I'd shake your hand and hug you if I could for being so supportive and patient with me.
The supporting evidence is
...
Thank you so much