Spouse Visa Refused....Does it Affect my Study Visa Plan?

[keem]

Dear All,

My wife just recently applied for a renewal of her visit visa together with our daughter who we are applying for for the 1st time. Both visas were denied on acct that:
1. ECO said he was convinced our daughter was given birth to in the UK when my wife initially travelled to UK with her visit visa and remained in the UK and just came back home shortly to renew her visa and return back to stay put again.
2. That immigration stamp on her passport was fake and that she did not return the date she claimed she arrived from the UK.
3. The ECO also question why we just got birth certificate for our daughter almost 2 years after a birth in our home country if she was trully given birth to in our Country and not in the UK as they believe.

In truth, we gave birth to our daughter in UK believing birth is enough to confer Nationality to a british born babies. The ECO really got us and we had no justifiable ground to appeal the decision.

I have had 6 months, 2 years and 5yrs visits visa which i have travelled with to UK on each occassion before i lost the passport. I was given a fresh 6months visa on my new passport which i have also travelled with and return within 2 weeks since last year. My question:

1. Do i still have chances of getting my expired visa renewed despite my wife's issue with the Embassy or i should just forget about it since i used my previous visa to apply for her as my wife the first time she got visa more than 2yrs ago and the most recent one that was bounce....meaning the record of linking us as husband and wife is indisputable.
2. I have plans to apply for a study visa and plan to pay deposit to the school for unconditional offer letter. Do i still have chances of being granted the Student Visa despite my wife's incidence bearing in mind that i may wish to sponsor them to visit me during the period of my study if the study permit is granted. I may need to exercise restrain in the deposit payment to the school if chances of getting the student visa is slim. The deposit is GBP 4,000.
3. Whats the best option opened to us to clear the dust on her case/record. Any steps to follow. In her next application, should we simply say the truth about d birth of our daughter in UK and apologised for the wrong doings?...If so, would we be made to pay back NHS bill enjoyed.
4. Any future hope for our UK born daughter in entring UK again in the near future.
5. If i evetually choose to shift school or study to another school in Ireland and granted, if after my study got a job with work permit and choose to sponsor my wife and daughter to join me in Dublin and she needs to disclose this facts in her Appl Form on whether she had been refused visa of another country before...will this fact affect her chance for the dependant work permit visa application in Dublin?

We'll appreciate your truthful and candid opinion pls. Your criticism for our misdeed will be taken in good fate...We do make a stupid mistake!

[VictoriaS]

Is what he has said about the visa stamp true?


Victoria

[keem]

Dear Victoria,
Thanks for your reply. In truth, the ECO's observations are correct. Any way out for us as it affects my proposed study in UK or Dublin where i intend to apply for work permit after my study and sponsor my spouse and child to join me thereafter?

[Wanderer]

Dear Victoria,
Thanks for your reply. In truth, the ECO's observations are correct. Any way out for us as it affects my proposed study in UK or Dublin where i intend to apply for work permit after my study and sponsor my spouse and child to join me thereafter?

What do you expect? You live by sword....

[Twin]

Dear Victoria,
Thanks for your reply. In truth, the ECO's observations are correct. Any way out for us as it affects my proposed study in UK or Dublin where i intend to apply for work permit after my study and sponsor my spouse and child to join me thereafter?

All i'm gonna say is poor child!

If your child had stayed for 10 years she would have become British or even 7 years...(I think).

It would be interesting to hear what the gurus say given the new rules regarding deception.

If your wife re-applies and tells the truth, she will be slammed with 10 years ban. If she lies, it's still the same.

Sorry, just realised that you were both visitors. I'll shut my mouth now.

[VictoriaS]

You attempted to use deception in an entry clearance application. Forget it. You will almost certainly never get a visa to come to the UK again.

Victoria

[keem]

Thanks Victoria.
Not minding paying so dearly for the wrongdoing.....have this killed my study plan in UK? If application is treated on a case by case basis truly, i feel i should not be affected since i have always come to UK and returned to my job in my home country....i have visited UK more than 4 times without any record of overstaying or deception....except for this my wife's case. Will i still be refused for my study visa or even a visit visa if i apply?....How will this affect us in Dublin if i complete my study and get a work permit in Dublin where UK becomes a no go area?
Appreciate your candid opinion and quick response.

[VictoriaS]

Dublin is in Ireland, it is a different country, and not relevant to UK laws unless they specifically ask.

If they think that you were compliant in your wife's lies on her application then you will find it extremely difficult to get a visa for the UK.

Victoria