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Chess wrote:Any update will be good...
could go on for yearsaliuk28 wrote:i am waiting for update as well.
dont know if the decision has been made or it will take another month
Just be a bit patient. We should get something very soon. HOPEFULLY...vinay shanthi wrote:if there was no hope, then what do u think people went to court for. all people can do is try and the rest is not up to us.aliuk28 wrote:so one should not have any hopes then?
wheelbarrow wrote:Affects me too. I have been keeping an eye on news websites and so far only come across this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7278533.stm
Been waiting for the outcome of this for ages!
olisun wrote:From the above linkwheelbarrow wrote:Affects me too. I have been keeping an eye on news websites and so far only come across this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7278533.stm
Been waiting for the outcome of this for ages!
Gravitational pull wrote:Of course I see the value of the JR and anyone who can't needs a whack on the head.
The case is very simple. Fine govts can make new laws, do whatever you like. But retrospective laws are blatantly unfair and go against natural justice.
HSMP migrants signed legal documents outlining what we needed to do to earn citizenship. We have done everything the govt asked and now they want to break your legal agreement with us?
Completely outrageous - people have moved countries, brought their families and basically set up a new life in this country. To shift the goalposts now is beyond unfair.
Its clearly the govts feeble attempt to look tough on immigration as they have done a complete shamble of curbing illegals coming into this country.
So yes I cross my fingers and wait for the JR ruling. If there is any justice in the world the retrospective laws will be overturned.
No I completely agree with you. Why in the hell it is taking so long is beyond a joke. But nothing can be helped there so I'm trying to be patient as I can.aliuk28 wrote: Whatever you say is absolutely right but I think we are missing the point here. one and a half year to get the judicial review hearing. Do you not think that the courts could have given an earlier date. What kind of justice is that. Most of the affected people have already left the country and it can be argued that it does not affect many people now so there is no need of changing the rules back.
If I am offending anybody, I am sorry for that but I am very frustrated and angry about all these changes and beloved we are getting from this country. Why the judgement was reserved , If the case was so clear, what is taking them so long? Its unbelieveable.
I know that all these changes are politically motivated. Policitians or govenments are same all over the world. Sucking the blood out of innocent people.
Is it possible to sue home office for destroying our lives? I would like to do that if we get a verdict against us.Gravitational pull wrote:No I completely agree with you. Why in the hell it is taking so long is beyond a joke. But nothing can be helped there so I'm trying to be patient as I can.aliuk28 wrote: Whatever you say is absolutely right but I think we are missing the point here. one and a half year to get the judicial review hearing. Do you not think that the courts could have given an earlier date. What kind of justice is that. Most of the affected people have already left the country and it can be argued that it does not affect many people now so there is no need of changing the rules back.
If I am offending anybody, I am sorry for that but I am very frustrated and angry about all these changes and beloved we are getting from this country. Why the judgement was reserved , If the case was so clear, what is taking them so long? Its unbelieveable.
I know that all these changes are politically motivated. Policitians or govenments are same all over the world. Sucking the blood out of innocent people.
We are all frustrated and I personally feel let down by this government.
Fully agree retrospective laws are a complete joke. Legal agreements should be binding and new laws should apply from when they are made.Edelweiss wrote:I agree that they are dragging this out to make sure that as many of us as possible leave before anything is done, but the JR is much more important than that. The principle of retrospective changes is what is at stake. I saw on this board that they now want £800 in your bank account over the three months before you apply for extension, with NO warning - again. And why £800 in your account, it is stupid and arbitrary, but it won't end here. Next month there will be some new rule or 'clarification' or whatever. That is why this is so important.
I still don't understand why they are tossing us out when we work and pay tax (even if we are not working in top salaried positions, we still contribute) and there are frankly not enough of us to be putting a strain on the country. Why pick on this group??
talk to them guys, lets look for other options. Do you know of any lawyers who can help us get damages from home office. If I can get the damages from HO, I would talk to this country and go somewhere else.Gravitational pull wrote:Fully agree retrospective laws are a complete joke. Legal agreements should be binding and new laws should apply from when they are made.Edelweiss wrote:I agree that they are dragging this out to make sure that as many of us as possible leave before anything is done, but the JR is much more important than that. The principle of retrospective changes is what is at stake. I saw on this board that they now want £800 in your bank account over the three months before you apply for extension, with NO warning - again. And why £800 in your account, it is stupid and arbitrary, but it won't end here. Next month there will be some new rule or 'clarification' or whatever. That is why this is so important.
I still don't understand why they are tossing us out when we work and pay tax (even if we are not working in top salaried positions, we still contribute) and there are frankly not enough of us to be putting a strain on the country. Why pick on this group??
And your second point is also correct - it seems complete lunacy to pick on HSMP visa holders. We pay tax - enormous amounts some of us and have no recourse to public funds.
Again I feel that this is happening as the Government are running scared over their innability to control immigration. So its easier to pick on people who play by the rules rather than illegals who they can't even catch let alone deport.
If I could sue the Home office over facing over my life believe me I would be happy to do so.
aliuk28 wrote:Lets look for other options. Do you know of any lawyers who can help us get damages from home office. If I can get the damages from HO, I would talk to this country and go somewhere else.Gravitational pull wrote:Fully agree retrospective laws are a complete joke. Legal agreements should be binding and new laws should apply from when they are made.Edelweiss wrote:I agree that they are dragging this out to make sure that as many of us as possible leave before anything is done, but the JR is much more important than that. The principle of retrospective changes is what is at stake. I saw on this board that they now want £800 in your bank account over the three months before you apply for extension, with NO warning - again. And why £800 in your account, it is stupid and arbitrary, but it won't end here. Next month there will be some new rule or 'clarification' or whatever. That is why this is so important.
I still don't understand why they are tossing us out when we work and pay tax (even if we are not working in top salaried positions, we still contribute) and there are frankly not enough of us to be putting a strain on the country. Why pick on this group??
And your second point is also correct - it seems complete lunacy to pick on HSMP visa holders. We pay tax - enormous amounts some of us and have no recourse to public funds.
Again I feel that this is happening as the Government are running scared over their innability to control immigration. So its easier to pick on people who play by the rules rather than illegals who they can't even catch let alone deport.
If I could sue the Home office over facing over my life believe me I would be happy to do so.
Yeah I saw the £ 800 thingy as well. This is so that they can charge tax on your savings.
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