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I was here by student visa, my flro was refused that was my last application, and i literally gave up but found this love of my life with the spanish guy and now have plans of getting married here in uk. or maybe in dublin or spain or back home.Casa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:14 pmDifficult. In order to marry in the UK you can only register your intent with a Home Office designated Registry Office. The Registrar is then legally bound to notify the HO who can then extend the notification period from 28 to 70 days in order to interview you both separately before the wedding can take place, should they choose to do so.
As you have no legal status in the UK, you are at risk of being detained on the day of the interview.
How did you enter the UK?
What if we decide to marry in spain instead is that possible?Casa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:35 pmYou won't have a legal right to enter Ireland and there is a 3 month notification period for marriages in the Irish Republic. You face the same issues there that you would have in the UK.
I suggest you return to your home country, marry there and submit an EEA FP application to re-enter the UK legally.![]()
If you get married in your country (Philippines), it will be a long process if you marry through the Spanish Consulate there, because you will have to pass an interview and your partner too, and that could be with a gap of many months, since the Spanish National Registry is very slow and bureaucratic. If they allow you to get married, you will have to apply for a visa to come to Spain, they will ask you for a lot of documents plus proof of economic resources and dependency of the Spanish citizen.kate8899 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:53 pmWhat if we decide to marry in spain instead is that possible?Casa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:35 pmYou won't have a legal right to enter Ireland and there is a 3 month notification period for marriages in the Irish Republic. You face the same issues there that you would have in the UK.
I suggest you return to your home country, marry there and submit an EEA FP application to re-enter the UK legally.![]()
khers wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:02 amIf you get married in your country (Philippines), it will be a long process if you marry through the Spanish Consulate there, because you will have to pass an interview and your partner too, and that could be with a gap of many months, since the Spanish National Registry is very slow and bureaucratic. If they allow you to get married, you will have to apply for a visa to come to Spain, they will ask you for a lot of documents plus proof of economic resources and dependency of the Spanish citizen.kate8899 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:53 pmWhat if we decide to marry in spain instead is that possible?Casa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:35 pmYou won't have a legal right to enter Ireland and there is a 3 month notification period for marriages in the Irish Republic. You face the same issues there that you would have in the UK.
I suggest you return to your home country, marry there and submit an EEA FP application to re-enter the UK legally.![]()
Your only options are to reach Spain, which will be difficult, because from 2015 the airlines are required to ask for the residence permit or visa to enter the country of destination, besides sometimes there are random passports controls at the Spanish Airports when you arrive there. If you reach Spain you can get married if you pass the interview even if you don't have a residence permit. If you marry in a small town the waiting time for the ceremony would be a couple of weeks.
The last option will be getting married through power of attorney, you can nominate a representative to get married on your behalf in Spain, but you have to pass the interview at the Spanish Consulate. You can contact a lawyer who can arrange that for you in Spain.
I hope this information is somehow useful for you,
Best Regards,
James
IF we marry in the Phils. then apply for EEA fp, isnt it that I would be liable for ban? or whats gonna happen for the ban? do i need to wait to apply before I lodge the EEAFP?Casa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:35 pmYou won't have a legal right to enter Ireland and there is a 3 month notification period for marriages in the Irish Republic. You face the same issues there that you would have in the UK.
I suggest you return to your home country, marry there and submit an EEA FP application to re-enter the UK legally.![]()
Many things will influence the waiting period. Each Autonomous Community have a different waiting process. Some regions have a queue of 1 year waiting period just to present the documents. The process is different in speed if it is celebrated through the Civil Registry or the Town Magistrate's Court (Juzgado de Paz). Once the documents have been presented to the Civil Registry or Town Magistrate's Court (birth certificate of the applicants, proof of address (empadronamiento) of the last 2 years, certificate of legal capacity to get married) they should determined if it is necessary to publish edicts in the case one of them has lived in a town with less than 25.000 inhabitants. If documents are correct they call for a separate interview if one of the parts is a non EU citizen. Then the file should be send to the District Attorney and then if approved they can get married. But it's not 8 months average in all Spain.Casa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:05 amHaving married in Spain (where both my husband and I were long-term legal residents) I know from personal experience that even marrying in a small town/village, the process is lengthy as all paperwork is sent to the provincial authority. This can take up to 8 months when the marriage involves a foreign (non-EU) resident and requires substantial documentation to be submitted.
They can't get married in the Spanish Consulate in the Philippines, they can marry in Philippines under their local legislation through the Philippines Civil Registry, then this marriage has to be "legalized" (exequatur) through the Spanish Consulate to be registered at the Spanish Civil Registry and then it will be recognizable in Spain and in other EU countries. An interview should be required also in this case by the Consulate.ribena wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:36 amkhers wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:02 amIf you get married in your country (Philippines), it will be a long process if you marry through the Spanish Consulate there, because you will have to pass an interview and your partner too, and that could be with a gap of many months, since the Spanish National Registry is very slow and bureaucratic. If they allow you to get married, you will have to apply for a visa to come to Spain, they will ask you for a lot of documents plus proof of economic resources and dependency of the Spanish citizen.kate8899 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:53 pmWhat if we decide to marry in spain instead is that possible?Casa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:35 pmYou won't have a legal right to enter Ireland and there is a 3 month notification period for marriages in the Irish Republic. You face the same issues there that you would have in the UK.
I suggest you return to your home country, marry there and submit an EEA FP application to re-enter the UK legally.![]()
Your only options are to reach Spain, which will be difficult, because from 2015 the airlines are required to ask for the residence permit or visa to enter the country of destination, besides sometimes there are random passports controls at the Spanish Airports when you arrive there. If you reach Spain you can get married if you pass the interview even if you don't have a residence permit. If you marry in a small town the waiting time for the ceremony would be a couple of weeks.
The last option will be getting married through power of attorney, you can nominate a representative to get married on your behalf in Spain, but you have to pass the interview at the Spanish Consulate. You can contact a lawyer who can arrange that for you in Spain.
I hope this information is somehow useful for you,
Best Regards,
James
Hi Khers,
you said IF they get married in a Spanish consulate in Philippines.. surely they can get married in the OP's local authority? It might be 'quicker'?
They should get marrried at the Philippines Civil Registry then they should legalize (exequatur) that marriage in Spain through the Consulate in Manila, so the marriage will be registered at the Spanish Civil Registry and recognized as valid in Spain and other EU countries. But this is a very long process.Casa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:28 pmIt won't be possible to marry in the Philippines at the Spanish Consulate: See the official guidance:
B) MARRIAGE IN THE CONSULATE.
Spanish citizens may likewise marry in the Consulate provided they meet the following requirements:
- At least one of the contracting parties is registered as RESIDENT in the Consulate General
- Both contracting parties are Spanish citizens or the other contracting party is a foreign citizen from a country other than the Philippines.
So the marriage will take in Spanish consulate or in spain?ribena wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:36 amkhers wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:02 amIf you get married in your country (Philippines), it will be a long process if you marry through the Spanish Consulate there, because you will have to pass an interview and your partner too, and that could be with a gap of many months, since the Spanish National Registry is very slow and bureaucratic. If they allow you to get married, you will have to apply for a visa to come to Spain, they will ask you for a lot of documents plus proof of economic resources and dependency of the Spanish citizen.kate8899 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:53 pmWhat if we decide to marry in spain instead is that possible?Casa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:35 pmYou won't have a legal right to enter Ireland and there is a 3 month notification period for marriages in the Irish Republic. You face the same issues there that you would have in the UK.
I suggest you return to your home country, marry there and submit an EEA FP application to re-enter the UK legally.![]()
Your only options are to reach Spain, which will be difficult, because from 2015 the airlines are required to ask for the residence permit or visa to enter the country of destination, besides sometimes there are random passports controls at the Spanish Airports when you arrive there. If you reach Spain you can get married if you pass the interview even if you don't have a residence permit. If you marry in a small town the waiting time for the ceremony would be a couple of weeks.
The last option will be getting married through power of attorney, you can nominate a representative to get married on your behalf in Spain, but you have to pass the interview at the Spanish Consulate. You can contact a lawyer who can arrange that for you in Spain.
I hope this information is somehow useful for you,
Best Regards,
James
Hi Khers,
you said IF they get married in a Spanish consulate in Philippines.. surely they can get married in the OP's local authority? It might be 'quicker'?
And having said that the power of attorney can be done in Spain or Philippines isnt it? so whichever we choose is maybe is the quickest in terms of process.khers wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:02 amIf you get married in your country (Philippines), it will be a long process if you marry through the Spanish Consulate there, because you will have to pass an interview and your partner too, and that could be with a gap of many months, since the Spanish National Registry is very slow and bureaucratic. If they allow you to get married, you will have to apply for a visa to come to Spain, they will ask you for a lot of documents plus proof of economic resources and dependency of the Spanish citizen.kate8899 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:53 pmWhat if we decide to marry in spain instead is that possible?Casa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:35 pmYou won't have a legal right to enter Ireland and there is a 3 month notification period for marriages in the Irish Republic. You face the same issues there that you would have in the UK.
I suggest you return to your home country, marry there and submit an EEA FP application to re-enter the UK legally.![]()
Your only options are to reach Spain, which will be difficult, because from 2015 the airlines are required to ask for the residence permit or visa to enter the country of destination, besides sometimes there are random passports controls at the Spanish Airports when you arrive there. If you reach Spain you can get married if you pass the interview even if you don't have a residence permit. If you marry in a small town the waiting time for the ceremony would be a couple of weeks.
The last option will be getting married through power of attorney, you can nominate a representative to get married on your behalf in Spain, but you have to pass the interview at the Spanish Consulate. You can contact a lawyer who can arrange that for you in Spain.
I hope this information is somehow useful for you,
Best Regards,
James
And having said that the power of attorney can be done in Spain or Philippines isnt it? so whichever we choose is maybe is the quickest in terms of process.khers wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:02 amIf you get married in your country (Philippines), it will be a long process if you marry through the Spanish Consulate there, because you will have to pass an interview and your partner too, and that could be with a gap of many months, since the Spanish National Registry is very slow and bureaucratic. If they allow you to get married, you will have to apply for a visa to come to Spain, they will ask you for a lot of documents plus proof of economic resources and dependency of the Spanish citizen.kate8899 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:53 pmWhat if we decide to marry in spain instead is that possible?Casa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:35 pmYou won't have a legal right to enter Ireland and there is a 3 month notification period for marriages in the Irish Republic. You face the same issues there that you would have in the UK.
I suggest you return to your home country, marry there and submit an EEA FP application to re-enter the UK legally.![]()
Your only options are to reach Spain, which will be difficult, because from 2015 the airlines are required to ask for the residence permit or visa to enter the country of destination, besides sometimes there are random passports controls at the Spanish Airports when you arrive there. If you reach Spain you can get married if you pass the interview even if you don't have a residence permit. If you marry in a small town the waiting time for the ceremony would be a couple of weeks.
The last option will be getting married through power of attorney, you can nominate a representative to get married on your behalf in Spain, but you have to pass the interview at the Spanish Consulate. You can contact a lawyer who can arrange that for you in Spain.
I hope this information is somehow useful for you,
Best Regards,
James
Courious to know how did you manage to board a plane to the UK without a family permit?
Hello,kate8899 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:10 amAnd having said that the power of attorney can be done in Spain or Philippines isnt it? so whichever we choose is maybe is the quickest in terms of process.khers wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:02 amIf you get married in your country (Philippines), it will be a long process if you marry through the Spanish Consulate there, because you will have to pass an interview and your partner too, and that could be with a gap of many months, since the Spanish National Registry is very slow and bureaucratic. If they allow you to get married, you will have to apply for a visa to come to Spain, they will ask you for a lot of documents plus proof of economic resources and dependency of the Spanish citizen.kate8899 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:53 pmWhat if we decide to marry in spain instead is that possible?Casa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:35 pmYou won't have a legal right to enter Ireland and there is a 3 month notification period for marriages in the Irish Republic. You face the same issues there that you would have in the UK.
I suggest you return to your home country, marry there and submit an EEA FP application to re-enter the UK legally.![]()
Your only options are to reach Spain, which will be difficult, because from 2015 the airlines are required to ask for the residence permit or visa to enter the country of destination, besides sometimes there are random passports controls at the Spanish Airports when you arrive there. If you reach Spain you can get married if you pass the interview even if you don't have a residence permit. If you marry in a small town the waiting time for the ceremony would be a couple of weeks.
The last option will be getting married through power of attorney, you can nominate a representative to get married on your behalf in Spain, but you have to pass the interview at the Spanish Consulate. You can contact a lawyer who can arrange that for you in Spain.
I hope this information is somehow useful for you,
Best Regards,
James