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Qualified persons who are not permanent residents are not allowed a visa or similar to bring fiancées in. That privilege was withdrawn several years ago.
Richard do you have any Knowledge about EEA family Permit for Direct family members ?Richard W wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:54 pmQualified persons who are not permanent residents are not allowed a visa or similar to bring fiancées in. That privilege was withdrawn several years ago.
The OP and his girlfriend cannot marry in the UK by legal means. They would have to marry elsewhere, e.g. Denmark if Lithuania and Vietnam are both unsuitable.
Can you please refrain from tagging your questions onto other members topics. It is considered rude and is unfair to the OP.
i think youre following me, instead of answering my query, youre more interested what im doing..is it your job in this group ?
Rahmsye, thanks for replying. I would like to both marry and apply for the permit from within the UK simply because marrying in Vietnam would take months and it'd take even more time to get all the papers officially stamped and translated into English for HO submission. The marriage process would not take as long in Lithuania, but the latter part would still have to be done.
Thanks for your input Richard W. I understand that marrying a non-eea on his/her visitor visa would violate its purpose as well as settling in the UK followed by a marriage visitor's visa would do the same. However, would this "breach" of immigration law have any consequences in the future?Richard W wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:54 pmQualified persons who are not permanent residents are not allowed a visa or similar to bring fiancées in.
The OP and his girlfriend cannot marry in the UK by legal means. They would have to marry elsewhere, e.g. Denmark if Lithuania and Vietnam are both unsuitable.
Moderators ensure the Board rules are adhered to and yes, it is CR001's 'job' (unpaid) to ask members not to highjack another member's thread. This one belongs to Xter27. Please post your questions in your own topic.
At the moment the OP fiancee is not a direct family member, she will be once married not before.
Bro basically i was asking Richard for my own case which i would be applying soon for my mother as a direct family member
thank you unpaid CR001 for an advice i will keep in mind next timeCasa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:22 pmModerators ensure the Board rules are adhered to and yes, it is CR001's 'job' (unpaid) to ask members not to highjack another member's thread. This one belongs to Xter27. Please post your questions in your own topic.
I can see a number of possible consequences, though I think some of then are quite unlikely:
Thanks for the reply once again Richard. I'm glad to know about this as a possibility, though I've seen quite a few posts in this forum where an eea successfully marries a non-eea visitor with the HO giving a green light for it. It would be interesting to know if a student visa has the same restriction, since I've been told by my GF that a few of her friends got married (eea to non-eea) whilst being in the UK as students.
This sounds scary. I might consider what type of information I am going to share nextRichard W wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:35 pm3) If this discussion could be used as evidence (how well is your true identity hidden?), you might conceivably by expelled from the UK under Schedule 1 Paragraph 6. The fraud would be in obtaining a visitor's visa while intending to marry. The fraud is a bit indirect, and I think GCHQ has better things to do than to monitor this website, but one never knows. The Home Office certainly believes that marrying one's illegal immigrant lover to allow him to stay in the UK merits expulsion via the EEA Regulations.
It would probably be refused. How are you going to persuade them of where you are going to live after the marriage?
You mean family permit. Residence cards can only be applied for from within the UK.
The latter should be enough (with one caveat) if you can get to the UK border.Xter27 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:59 pmNow I am aware this could take a long time and we may not have it when the time comes. So, my question is - would she need the EEA (FM) to re-enter the UK or would having me next to her and all the relevant documents (such as marriage certificate, etc.) be enough?
Unless the non-EU partner qualified under some other route, yes. I believe, for example, that a tier 2 visa would also be acceptable - but I stand to be corrected.
Being a qualified person can be enough. You could, for example, legitimately get a Schengen visa for a honeymoon in Paris and take the Eurostar to London, without obtaining a family permit. Similarly, you could marry in Denmark on a Schengen visa and take the train back to London.
Thanks again Richard, I really appreciate your help. I suppose I would have to be taking that train with the marriage certificate and other relevant documents already translated into English, right?Richard W wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:43 pmBeing a qualified person can be enough. You could, for example, legitimately get a Schengen visa for a honeymoon in Paris and take the Eurostar to London, without obtaining a family permit. Similarly, you could marry in Denmark on a Schengen visa and take the train back to London.
Apart form the fact that a marriage certificate from an EU country does not need to be translated, yes. However, it might be useful to get a translation as that concession may be dropped after exit from the EU.
Think you need three years residency on EEA rules before qualifying for home fees.Xter27 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:50 pmThanks again Richard, I really appreciate your help. I suppose I would have to be taking that train with the marriage certificate and other relevant documents already translated into English, right?Richard W wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:43 pmBeing a qualified person can be enough. You could, for example, legitimately get a Schengen visa for a honeymoon in Paris and take the Eurostar to London, without obtaining a family permit. Similarly, you could marry in Denmark on a Schengen visa and take the train back to London.
Does anyone know if a non-EU partner would be eligible for home fees and perhaps student finance (tuition fees) provided that we meet the requirements as detailed in Category 3 and Special Provision 1) and 2)?
https://www.ukcisa.org.uk/Information-- ... fee-status
COA = Certificate of Application.
I am not too sure about that, because
I got married in Denmark on a Schengen visa. You will get the marriage certificate immediately and they can send you a second one with an Apostille stamp about 2 weeks later. We used the non-Apostille one for our EEA Family permit application straight away, no translation required.Xter27 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:50 pmThanks again Richard, I really appreciate your help. I suppose I would have to be taking that train with the marriage certificate and other relevant documents already translated into English, right?Richard W wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:43 pmBeing a qualified person can be enough. You could, for example, legitimately get a Schengen visa for a honeymoon in Paris and take the Eurostar to London, without obtaining a family permit. Similarly, you could marry in Denmark on a Schengen visa and take the train back to London.
Does anyone know if a non-EU partner would be eligible for home fees and perhaps student finance (tuition fees) provided that we meet the requirements as detailed in Category 3 and Special Provision 1) and 2)?
https://www.ukcisa.org.uk/Information-- ... fee-status