Why are the fees so high?

[deepakkalra5]

HO is clearly running a racket here. The new priority Tier 2 fees is around gbp 1800. The numbers just dont make sense.

they issue roughly 2000 Tier 2s per month. If we say the fees is 500 gbp per application, that comes to a million pounds a month on Tier 2 revenue.

Lets say they have a 100 ECOs at Shieffield dealing with Tier 2s - that comes to just 20 applications per ECO. Lets say on average these 100 ECOs get paid 3000 pounds a month. That comes to just 0.3 million in ECO salaries. Lets double it to add overhead costs etc - so 0.6 million.

so the conservative minimum total income is 1 million per month at current level not including all the CoS charges etc. ECO etc cost is 0.6 million per month. I am sure they have no where near a 100 ECOs dealing with Tier2s otherwise it wouldn't be taking as long as it does.

if you are going to increase the price, the service has to match it too. wont you agree?

[naveencandy8]

Yes u are right. They are not providing the service as per the payment you are paying.

[Wanderer]

Think you could revisit your costings, there's a lot more going on in the background than you think. Plus the cost of Border Control Police force we never used to have, costs of detaining those who overstay, deportation costs, costs of court time, compliance, software, IT sysyems, legal costs.

It's important it remains costs neutral, if it seen Johnny Taxpayer is paying towards subsidising work visas when demand is so high it's politcal suicide for the minister in charge.

But, the crux is it doesn't matter, people will pay, willing to stay and pay, UK, UK - to paraphrase Neil Young.

[deepakkalra5]

ok these are fair points. However, why should nurses, teachers, and scientists who are all well qualified and educated foot the bill for these extracurriculars? These people are not that rich and its not fair to burden new skilled workers. i can understand if parasitic bankers get charged more but to charge a nurse 1800 pounds is just silly.

Besides, other countries like the US do it far more efficiently- they get 5 times more H1B skilled worker applicants and handle it at a fraction of the cost. You dont have to pay 3000 dollars for an H1B visa.

[Wanderer]

ok these are fair points. However, why should nurses, teachers, and scientists who are all well qualified and educated foot the bill for these extracurriculars? These people are not that rich and its not fair to burden new skilled workers. i can understand if parasitic bankers get charged more but to charge a nurse 1800 pounds is just silly.

Besides, other countries like the US do it far more efficiently- they get 5 times more H1B skilled worker applicants and handle it at a fraction of the cost. You dont have to pay 3000 dollars for an H1B visa.

Slightly off topic but it's the bankers who make all the money, UK has very little else to offer, especially come Brexit........

I've no experience in US visas but USA generally is very lax on control, box ticking, look at Hillary Clinton, running her own private mail server for Government emails, no way would that happen in UK.

Anyway, the crux is if you can't afford it you can't have it, even though I'm a socialist I don't believe in equal shares for everyone, otherwise people aren't incentivised, but I do believe in equal opportunities for everyone, but some will fall off the end and that's life.

Ah well, back to normal programming!

[deepakkalra5]

A former UK PM was a pedophile and they missed it. This was just recently reported. Corruption, nepotism, inefficiency is far more rampant in UK than US. grenfell tower.... if that happened in the US, all hell would have broken loose

Bottomline is US is far more attractive no matter how you look at it - taxes are lower, quality of life is way better, houses are cheaper and more spacious, salaries are higher.

Also, there is a disproportionate number of Brits going to US than the other way around. the only way these exorbitant fees will come down is if US and other countries impose similar high fees on UK applicants

I can only speak for the sciences. American H1b is streamlined for scientists, no cap, no fees, easy processing, special route for greencards. There is a reason year after year all the nobel prizes go to america. The benefits that come from it in terms of technology are crystal clear - apple, google, boeing, GE, almost all new medicines....

[Wanderer]

A former UK PM was a pedophile and they missed it. This was just recently reported. Corruption, nepotism, inefficiency is far more rampant in UK than US. grenfell tower.... if that happened in the US, all hell would have broken loose

Bottomline is US is far more attractive no matter how you look at it - taxes are lower, quality of life is way better, houses are cheaper and more spacious, salaries are higher.

Also, there is a disproportionate number of Brits going to US than the other way around. the only way these exorbitant fees will come down is if US and other countries impose similar high fees on UK applicants

I can only speak for the sciences. American H1b is streamlined for scientists, no cap, no fees, easy processing, special route for greencards. There is a reason year after year all the nobel prizes go to america. The benefits that come from it in terms of technology are crystal clear - apple, google, boeing, GE, almost all new medicines....

One word. Trump.

US is fine until you get ill and can't afford to be treated. Or if you want your kids to carry guns to avoid being shot.

Last time I checked Heath wasn't a proven paedophile.

Was my dream to live in work in USA - I went for 6 months on L-1 I think it was a long time ago, I didn't like it, 10 days holiday, ridiculous hours, suppose it suits those who are young and healthy, it's when your are old and lost all your money in a divorce or heart operation you see the other side...