TIER 1 JOB CREATION HOURLY RATE MISCALCULATIONS ETC

[bizman]

Good evening respected gurus, I have had a lot of insight and help from this forum. God bless you all. Many thanks to Zimba, Macnath, CR001 Sme1 and many more gurus, you are all fantastic.

I have been piling up my application which is due to be submitted on teusday as my visa expires on 15 November. I really need help to confirm the hourly rate of my employee is ok as per immigration rule, I employed two full time employees, one was employed 29th of August, 2016 and the other 7th September, 2016, there hours per month is as follows

Employee A Employed August 29th 2016
Sept 16 130 hours,
October 16 120 hours,
Nov 16 120 hrs,
Dec 16 120 hrs,
Jan 17 120 hrs,
Feb 17 120 hrs,
March 17 120 hrs,
April 17 120 hrs,
May 17 150 hrs,
June 17 120 hrs,
July 120 hrs,
August 17 130 hrs,
Sept 17 120 hrs,
October 17 210 hrs

Employee B Employed Sept 7th 2016
Sept 16 90 hrs
Oct 16 120 hrs
Nov 16 120 hrs
Dec 16 120 hrs
Jan 17 120 hrs
Feb 17 120 hrs
March 17 120 hrs
April 17 120 hrs
May 17 150 hrs
June 17 120 hrs
July 17 120 hrs
August 17 130 hrs
Sep 17 120 hrs
October 17 210 hrs

My question is 1, does this meet immigration requirement especially the ones that are 120 hrs, since its 120 hrs per month as per immigration guide.
2, I hope I wont be penalised for october payment that is 210 hrs. I will appreciate the gurus response and your help so that I will be able to submit my application on teusday. I am greatful, very greatful for your kind responses especially Zimba, Macnath, Znef SMe1 etc. Many thank gurus for your hrlp.

[zimba]

It is two full time positions, which is min 30 hours per week. Count the weeks and they must be 104 weeks of full time work. Total hours worked is not relevant

[marcnath]

Good evening respected gurus, I have had a lot of insight and help from this forum. God bless you all. Many thanks to Zimba, Macnath, CR001 Sme1 and many more gurus, you are all fantastic.

I have been piling up my application which is due to be submitted on teusday as my visa expires on 15 November. I really need help to confirm the hourly rate of my employee is ok as per immigration rule, I employed two full time employees, one was employed 29th of August, 2016 and the other 7th September, 2016, there hours per month is as follows

Employee A Employed August 29th 2016
Sept 16 130 hours,
October 16 120 hours,
Nov 16 120 hrs,
Dec 16 120 hrs,
Jan 17 120 hrs,
Feb 17 120 hrs,
March 17 120 hrs,
April 17 120 hrs,
May 17 150 hrs,
June 17 120 hrs,
July 120 hrs,
August 17 130 hrs,
Sept 17 120 hrs,
October 17 210 hrs

Employee B Employed Sept 7th 2016
Sept 16 90 hrs
Oct 16 120 hrs
Nov 16 120 hrs
Dec 16 120 hrs
Jan 17 120 hrs
Feb 17 120 hrs
March 17 120 hrs
April 17 120 hrs
May 17 150 hrs
June 17 120 hrs
July 17 120 hrs
August 17 130 hrs
Sep 17 120 hrs
October 17 210 hrs

My question is 1, does this meet immigration requirement especially the ones that are 120 hrs, since its 120 hrs per month as per immigration guide.
2, I hope I wont be penalised for october payment that is 210 hrs. I will appreciate the gurus response and your help so that I will be able to submit my application on teusday. I am greatful, very greatful for your kind responses especially Zimba, Macnath, Znef SMe1 etc. Many thank gurus for your hrlp.

Well, if you are applying on Tuesday, you don't have an option but to apply with what you have.
Why do you think you would be penalised for 210 hrs ?

[bizman]

Thank you for your responses Zimba and Macnath, I got to know from the forum that anything above 130 is not counted by HO.
Sorry for my bothers, does it matter if the number of months to make 52 weeks exceeds 12 months, from my calculations of my employee hours it will be like 13 months. Is this ok Zimba and Macnath. Thanks for your response sirs.

[marcnath]

Thank you for your responses Zimba and Macnath, I got to know from the forum that anything above 130 is not counted by HO.
Sorry for my bothers, does it matter if the number of months to make 52 weeks exceeds 12 months, from my calculations of my employee hours it will be like 13 months. Is this ok Zimba and Macnath. Thanks for your response sirs.

You need 52 weeks of 30 hrs each- it can take as many months as needed. It does not have to be continuous.

[bizman]

Thank you so much Macnath I really do appreciate. What of the employee ID. I Had an european and a british, hope this is ok.

[marcnath]

Thank you so much Macnath I really do appreciate. What of the employee ID. I Had an european and a british, hope this is ok.

Yes, that is ok. Both are considered settled workers.

[marcnath]

Thank you for your responses Zimba and Macnath, I got to know from the forum that anything above 130 is not counted by HO.
Sorry for my bothers, does it matter if the number of months to make 52 weeks exceeds 12 months, from my calculations of my employee hours it will be like 13 months. Is this ok Zimba and Macnath. Thanks for your response sirs.

You need 52 weeks of 30 hrs each- it can take as many months as needed. It does not have to be continuous.

To reemphasise on the above. You need 52 weeks of a minimum of 30 hrs each. If an employee worked more than 30 hrs in a week, the extra CANNOT be used to make up the hours elsewhere.
So, in general 120 hrs in a month would work out to less than 30 hrs a week (since a month has slightly more than 4 weeks), though without knowing the exact weekly breakdown you have, it is difficult to say if the 120 hours is sufficient or not.

[bizman]

Many thanks Macnath for your response, very helpful. I use to think for example if some one pay workers for 120 hrs per month for 13 months, it comes to 1560 in total and if you divide this by 30hrs for a week it comes to 52 weeks. Is this right please.

If this is right. Since I have about 14 months of payment to each worker and I have 130 hrs for four months and 120 hrs for 9 months, this should be ok for number of hours. Please enlighten me respected gurus. I am really concerned now about what Macnath said in his last post. Please help.

[zimba]

That is not how HO will calculate your hours. You need to put the hourly rate on the form for any period of employment.
The case worker will add all the salary paid for a period and divide it over the hourly rate which gives the total hours worked.
The total hours worked can also be divided over the number of the weeks in that period to see if the worker worked on average 30 hours per week or full time.

[bizman]

Thank you so much Zimba for your prompt response, can you kindly help me look at mine situation below and advise me, I dont have peace of mind yet and I am submitting tomorrow

Employee A Employed August 29th 2016
Sept 16 130 hours, at 7.50 975
October 16 120 hours, 7.50 900
Nov 16 120 hrs, 7.50 900
Dec 16 120 hrs, 7.50 900
Jan 17 120 hrs, 7.50 900
Feb 17 120 hrs,7.50 900
March 17 120 hrs, 7.50 900
April 17 120 hrs,7.60 912
May 17 150 hrs,7.60 988
June 17 120 hrs, 7.60 912
July 120 hrs, 7.60 912
August 17 130 hrs,7.60 988
Sept 17 120 hrs, 7.60 912
October 17 210 hrs 7.60 988

Employee B Employed Sept 7th 2016 Age 18years
Sept 16 90 hrs 5.30 477
Oct 16 120 hrs 5.55 666
Nov 16 120 hrs 5.55 666
Dec 16 120 hrs 5.55 666
Jan 17 120 hrs 5.55 666
Feb 17 120 hrs 5.55 666
March 17 120 hrs 5,55 666
April 17 120 hrs 5.60 672
May 17 150 hrs 5.60 728
June 17 120 hrs 5.60 672
July 17 120 hrs 5.60 672
August 17 130 hrs 5.60 728
Sep 17 130 hrs 5.60 728
October 17 210 hrs 5.60 728

Im really confused, Zimba, Macnath please help me look at it if tis is ok. Thank you so much for your response.

[marcnath]

As both me and Zimba have been trying to tell you, look at weeks. For example, we don't know if you employee A worked 4 weeks and 2 days in October or just 4 weeks exactly.
If the employee worked only 4 weeks, then 120 hrs is fine. If he/she worked 4 weeks and 2 days, then it will not get to 30 hrs/week.
We are unable to know exactly how the employment is structured.
But, as I also said before, you don't have much of an option.
If you have 52 weeks for each employee with 30 hrs each, then you definitely meet the requirement.
If not, you have to depend on the clause in the guidance that says "We consider full-time to be 30 hours per week /120 hours per month." Note that, in this forum, at least one person was rejected for not meeting 30 hours/week even after satisfying 120 hrs/month. Not sure what the status is on that person's AR application.

[bizman]

Thank you Macnath. I now get your point. When I calculated in weeks it met the 52 weeks requirement. And for the two of them it met the 104 weeks for the two jobs created. Thank you gurus and God bless. Will let you know as it goes.

[bizman]

Hello respected members,

I have submitted my application over two weeks now and given Bio metrics yet, there is no update on the HO website. Is there anyone that submitted from mid october to date that got a status information on the HO website.

Thank you friends.

[zimba]

Hello respected members,

I have submitted my application over two weeks now and given Bio metrics yet, there is no update on the HO website. Is there anyone that submitted from mid october to date that got a status information on the HO website.

Thank you friends.

It could take between 2 - 4 weeks to get the Biometrics letter

[bizman]

Thanks Zimba

[hamalt66]

Hello respected members,

I have submitted my application over two weeks now and given Bio metrics yet, there is no update on the HO website. Is there anyone that submitted from mid october to date that got a status information on the HO website.

Thank you friends.

Have you tried the online checker below yet?

https://contact-ukvi.homeoffice.gov.uk/ ... visastatus

[bizman]

Hello respected members,

I have submitted my application over two weeks now and given Bio metrics yet, there is no update on the HO website. Is there anyone that submitted from mid october to date that got a status information on the HO website.

Thank you friends.

Have you tried the online checker below yet?

https://contact-ukvi.homeoffice.gov.uk/ ... visastatus

Yes I did but its saying number not recognised. Even upto today. Its really frustrating.

[bizman]

Good evening gurus

I like to ask, if someone get the IHS partial refund, what does it mean.

[Manu_cal]

Hello mate. dosent mean that your application is decided . It's just random some get it after decided some before.
I got it after. But I know someone who has got the refund about a month ago but still no news.
Good luck