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I might get shot down in flames for saying this, but on the basis of anecdotal evidence - the French embassy is likely to be right: they seem to be more prone to know "the rules" and to apply them systematically and sensibly than some of the other EU embassies...PAPITO wrote:The French embassy in London have the same message:
Spouses of EU nationals other than the UK should submit their visa applications at their spouse's respective embassy.
I hope all Countries start using the same rule so no one gets confuse...
People should ignore the above bad advice.evil_grrrl666 wrote:I dont think applying at the german embassy when you are not actually going to germany will affect any further applications; there are no border check posts so how would anyone know whether or not you actually went there?
People should ignore the above bad advise.mym wrote:People should ignore the above bad advice.evil_grrrl666 wrote:I dont think applying at the german embassy when you are not actually going to germany will affect any further applications; there are no border check posts so how would anyone know whether or not you actually went there?
On entry to the Schengen Area passports are stamped and visas read. Anyone who does not enter Schengen via the state that issued their visa, or retain proof (receipts, hotel bookings, travel tickets etc) that they spent more time in that state than any other, are very likely to encounter problems (maybe a refusal, maybe a single entry visa, maybe a short term visa...) if they apply for another visa at the same embassy.
Visa departments (quite rightly IMO) do not like the extra burden on their resources of people that apply for a Schengen Visa at the embassy of a state they are not going to be visiting.
Bugger - does that mean I missed my window!??Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:People should ignore the above bad advise.mym wrote:People should ignore the above bad advice.evil_grrrl666 wrote:I dont think applying at the german embassy when you are not actually going to germany will affect any further applications; there are no border check posts so how would anyone know whether or not you actually went there?
On entry to the Schengen Area passports are stamped and visas read. Anyone who does not enter Schengen via the state that issued their visa, or retain proof (receipts, hotel bookings, travel tickets etc) that they spent more time in that state than any other, are very likely to encounter problems (maybe a refusal, maybe a single entry visa, maybe a short term visa...) if they apply for another visa at the same embassy.
Visa departments (quite rightly IMO) do not like the extra burden on their resources of people that apply for a Schengen Visa at the embassy of a state they are not going to be visiting.
If you are the family member of an EU citizen and will be travelling with them, then can not deny you a visa based on where you did or did not travel in the past. They can only do it on the basis of national security, public policy or public health. They are required to give you the visa even if you have a minor criminal record in their country.
Mym, do you have any specific example of family of EU citizens being turned down based on not having travelled enough on previous Schengen visas?
It's sensible and practical advice. Remember I am referring to Schengen Visas.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:
People should ignore the above bad advice.
You know as well as I do that there is a mismatch between the Directive and the Schengen Accord which has not yet been settled in the courts. Schengen allows states to require extra documentation for applications, it also allows them to issue visas "free and on the basis of an accelerated procedure" as the Directive requires, but also with whatever limitations on them that they see fit to impose (single entry, short duration etc).If you are the family member of an EU citizen and will be travelling with them, then can not deny you a visa based on where you did or did not travel in the past. They can only do it on the basis of national security, public policy or public health. They are required to give you the visa even if you have a minor criminal record in their country.
My mate's wife was. He's a Brit, she's Russian like my partner. They got a French issued Schengen last year, used it to drive to Estonia via Holland. Estonia wasn't in Schengen then. Applied for another this year, refused cos they didn't go to France on the last one. My mate spoke to a woman at the French consulate who said it was denied cos they never went to France, but she would issue another if they provided proof of travel, hotel bookings etc. He told he to stuff it and they got a schengen from Estonia in two days.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:I agree the schengen process is a mess. But I know of no examples of family members of EU citizens being denied a visa because they had not travelled enough in the country that previously issued the visa.