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You are submitting far too many documents.vetri wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:55 pmThank you, Here is the list of documents that i have come up with for filing ... I have queries in few of the them. Please see below .
List of documents
From applicant side
Completed Visa application form VAF4A
Completed online visa application form
Passport copies of self ( Newly applied with my wife name bearing in the passport)
One passport size colour photograph
National identity card(Aadhar card) Not required.
Previous 2 passport
TB certificate
Evidence of marriage Is this the marriage certificate? Translated if not in English.
Evidence of divorce Is this in English? Which divorce is this for?
Evidence of current employment Not required.
Evidence of english language( 10th,12th grade & University engineering degree) Is your degree a foreign degree or a UK degree?? 10th, 12th grade etc, what is that?
bank statement 6 months Whose bank statements are these?
payslips 6 months ( ++ evidence that Indian salary earnings more than minimum requirement of 18600 pounds) Not required. Your income is completely irrelevant to a spouse visa application.
letter from bank (Account balance, name, date opened)---- what letter should it be ? Not required unless relying on £62,500 savings.
Resume Not required.
Offer letter from current organization Not required.
Current organization SAP snapshot declaring my wife as dependent Not required.
Tax return Not required.
Provident Fund Statement showing 6000 pounds savings Not required.
Evidence to show current salary is more than 18600 pounds minimum requirement- Payslip & offerletter Not required.
Payscale.com salary report to show any new job in UK will get me salary more than 18600 pounds Not required.
Evidence of my property(Sale deed & construction agreement) What is the purpose of submitting this?
From sponsor
sponsor ship letter
evidence of property ownership
Land registry document
mortgage statement
lease documents current property
rent book or tenancy agreement for the house rented in woodford under sponsor name and if it is being inherited then supporting documents + property deed
rent paid to sponsor proof
council tax statements 2017
property inspection report
utilities bills(gas/ electricity/ water ) 2016-2017
Current employment proof
other income proof ( rental )
savings proof ( cash savings) How much is the cash savings? How long have they been held in the bank?
P60
settlement sum documents ( My wife & her sister are in the process of inheriting deceased mothers property's)
Driving licence Not required.
Job contract previous employer Not required.
Job contract current employer
evidence total annual income from employment & non employment exceed above > £18600
passport copies
birth certificate Not required.
Relationship proof
marriage certificate
wedding photo
pics from all out trip together
e-mails, whats app chats(Screen shots/ Transcripts), calls track from whats app)
Hotel stay evidence got most of them .
Travel evidence ( ticket, visa,boarding pass etc)
Misc
Documents submitted for Tourist visa by me to meet sponsor in march"17 when her mother expired
3) This is my third marriage . My first marriage survived only for a month and we got legally divorced. My second marriage ended up the court saying that the marriage performed is not legal and hence null and void. I have a 2 yr old son from my second marriage. Both of the above two marriages are through dating website and arranged. The third one being a love marriage . My question is will my past relations will bring any challenges to the visa applications ? if yes what are they ? and how would i substantiate and what i should be aware about while filing ? Which court said the second marriage was null and void? What evidence do you have of this?
I have asked this already but what evidence do you have of the second marriage being null and void? Why did they declare it 'null and void'??Evidence of divorce Is this in English? Which divorce is this for? ( this divorce if from my first marriage from district family court & the second one stating marriage is invalid from city famil court of civil cases from chennai)
To use a foreign degree to meet the English requirement, you need UKVI red route NARIC assessment.Evidence of english language( 10th,12th grade & University engineering degree) Is your degree a foreign degree or a UK degree?? 10th, 12th grade etc, what is that? (My degree is a foreign degree i.e is from india and i did check my university is listed in NARIC "Vellore Institute of Technology"
Not needed unless you are relying on savings.bank statement 6 months Whose bank statements are these? ( Mine )
You are misunderstanding the 'financial requirement'. It is your spouse in the UK that has to prove they meet the financial requirement unless you are relying on savings.Evidence of my property(Sale deed & construction agreement) What is the purpose of submitting this?(Additional support on my financial requirement if any )
Yes, which is why I only commented on the bits not required.####( Apart from the one which you have mentioned not required , am i good to go with the rest of them listed above as fine ? If not, please mention what are the other supporting documents i should carry, please ? )
Are these being submitted only to prove the paper trail for the rental income, i.e. not proof of where you will live when you get to the UK?evidence of property ownership
Land registry document
mortgage statement
lease documents current property
rent book or tenancy agreement for the house rented in woodford under sponsor name and if it is being inherited then supporting documents + property deed
rent paid to sponsor proof
For which property, the one she rents out or the one she lives in?council tax statements 2017
property inspection report
What is her employment income? What is her rental income? The deceased property documents presumably you mean the various documents and processes in the estate probate. Until the probate estate is concluded, these are likely irrelevant at this point.Current employment proof
other income proof ( rental )
savings proof ( cash savings) How much is the cash savings? How long have they been held in the bank?(9000 pounds held for 6 months till date)
P60
settlement sum documents ( My wife & her sister are in the process of inheriting deceased mothers property's)
Why did they declare the marriage null and void?? What do they mean the marriage performed not legal??3) This is my third marriage . My first marriage survived only for a month and we got legally divorced. My second marriage ended up the court saying that the marriage performed is not legal and hence null and void. I have a 2 yr old son from my second marriage. Both of the above two marriages are through dating website and arranged. The third one being a love marriage . My question is will my past relations will bring any challenges to the visa applications ? if yes what are they ? and how would i substantiate and what i should be aware about while filing ? Which court said the second marriage was null and void? What evidence do you have of this? ( City family court of civil cases in Chennai said the marriage is null and void . I have the court notice along with order originaly signed in green ink by the judge herself .)
I haven't answered them as I am not sure.4) Any feedback on the first two queries from my first post ?
What do you mean by 'X visa in UK'??5) My wife has also applied for X visa in UK which is under progress . Will it be of any conflict for my Settlement visa ?
Should be ok provided she submitted strong evidence of where all the money comes from.6) My wife is planning to submit the redundancy pay out of left over 9000 pounds held for 6 months till date + 2 months( oct & nov "17) new job salary ( 6000 pounds) + insurance pay out (64000 pounds) as proof for financial requirements. Will this suffice the need ? please advice, also does the 9000 pounds from the redundancy payout will be considered as cash savings or Income from employment ? please clarify what can be shown for financial requirements ? We are waiting for the insurance pay out of 64000 pounds for filing. Can i use the letter from the insurance firm about the insurance payout while filing if we don t get the payout before filing ? please advice ..
CR001 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:01 pmI have asked this already but what evidence do you have of the second marriage being null and void? Why did they declare it 'null and void'??Evidence of divorce Is this in English? Which divorce is this for? ( this divorce if from my first marriage from district family court & the second one stating marriage is invalid from city famil court of civil cases from chennai)
"( City family court of civil cases in Chennai said the marriage is null and void . I have the court notice along with order originally signed in green ink by the judge herself.
Actual statement recorded in the court ...
I filed for Restitution of Conjugal rights ie asking her to come and live with me along with my son ... My ex wife deserted me along with my one month old son to her native place and do not return but filed a case on me on the grounds of cruelty .... At the same time i have filed a case in marital home that is chennai for asking her to come and live with me
Actual statement recorded in the court ...
" The petitioner/Husband resubmitted the petition stating that this is a second marriage to both the parties, they couldnt not register the marriage in the church, but the marriage was solemnized as per christian rites and customs and registered the marriage under tamil nadu marriage registration act and the marriage certificate for the same is enclosed here with ...
The court notice along with order as follows ...
Heard, Records perused. When the petitioner filed the petition under the divorce act for restitution he has to prove that the marriage was held as provided under the said act. As per section 5 of the act the marriage has to be performed by the persons mentioned there in and they have to maintain marriage register and submit to the registrar of marriage. Periodically they also issue marriage certificate to the parties. The alleged marriage performed other than the manner provided under the act is void and not valid marriage at all. Therefore he cannot invoke the provisions of the divorce act. whether it is first or second marriage the same will not alter the provisions of law. Under the act there is no bar to solemnize marriage to the divorcee or widower. The registration certificate issued under tamil nadu act (State Act) will not help to decide the validity of marriage . He has to prove that the marriage was solemnized under section 5 of the christian marriage act. In the circumstances, in the absence of producing the marriage certificate issued under the christian marriage act ie (Special marriage act marriage certificate) the restitution petition under section 32 of the divorce act cannot be entertained....
I actually should have got marriage through special marriage act i have chosen a wrong marriage act i e state marriage act for marriage certificate hence the marriage is null and void...... Hope this is clear ..?
To use a foreign degree to meet the English requirement, you need UKVI red route NARIC assessment.Evidence of english language( 10th,12th grade & University engineering degree) Is your degree a foreign degree or a UK degree?? 10th, 12th grade etc, what is that? (My degree is a foreign degree i.e is from india and i did check my university is listed in NARIC "Vellore Institute of Technology"
Are these being submitted only to prove the paper trail for the rental income, i.e. not proof of where you will live when you get to the UK?evidence of property ownership
Land registry document
mortgage statement
lease documents current property
rent book or tenancy agreement for the house rented in woodford under sponsor name and if it is being inherited then supporting documents + property deed
rent paid to sponsor proof
For which property, the one she rents out or the one she lives in?council tax statements 2017
property inspection report
What is her employment income? What is her rental income? The deceased property documents presumably you mean the various documents and processes in the estate probate. Until the probate estate is concluded, these are likely irrelevant at this point.Current employment proof
other income proof ( rental )
savings proof ( cash savings) How much is the cash savings? How long have they been held in the bank?(9000 pounds held for 6 months till date)
P60
settlement sum documents ( My wife & her sister are in the process of inheriting deceased mothers property's)
What do you mean by 'X visa in UK'??5) My wife has also applied for X visa in UK which is under progress . Will it be of any conflict for my Settlement visa ?
Would you please help me on the simplification ? What are the important ones i should submit ? Also will any way my son from previous marriage have an impact ? Is there anything i should be aware about it ? Pleas suggest. Today i received a message from my wife that the insurance money will be paid out today probably. I will confirm it. But it is shared between herself and her sister.CR001 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:38 pmMy view is that you are over complicating your application and trying to submit too much which means the important things are likely to be missed completely and end in a refusal. You need to simplify it. If you meet the requirements using savings, then use the savings. No other evidence is needed.
No i am not applying visa for him . In india the law is the child had to be with their mother untill the age of 5 yrs. Any custody will be provided post 5 yrs through court case unless on special circumstance like mental disability or mother expired etc ... My son currently living with my ex-wife for the past two years . Why do you feel HO raise question about my second marriage ? when you mean second marriage are you referring to the one with my ex-wife ? And what sought of concerns do you foresee that HO would raise ? In both of my arranged marriage its the womens who wanted to get rid off me... Doesnt not my divorce petition and orders support to address the concerns ? Please advice ...CR001 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:11 pmSo how much insurance money exactly is your sister getting?
Not my sister , My wife . She will be getting half of it or she could bargain with her sister and can have the entire money .. Please consider 64000/2 = 32000 pounds
Why would your son be an issue? You are not applying for a visa for him. I would be more concerned that HO raises a question regarding your second marriage etc.
The fact that your second marriage does not have a divorce certificate. I don't know if HO will accept the 'null and void' information you mentioned. You have to prove to HO that you are/were free to marry to meet the requirements for a spouse visa.And what sought of concerns do you foresee that HO would raise ?
point taken. I will have this explored with my lawyer who worked on it tomorrow. But being more rationale when the court itself had said the marriage is not legal and invalid why would there be a divorce required....? Because i used the same court order to process my UK tourist Visa and My passport which bears my british wife name in it .....Any thoughts ???CR001 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:24 pmThe fact that your second marriage does not have a divorce certificate. I don't know if HO will accept the 'null and void' information you mentioned. You have to prove to HO that you are/were free to marry to meet the requirements for a spouse visa.And what sought of concerns do you foresee that HO would raise ?
No issue regarding your son.
The court order says marriage is invalid i.e it never happend at all legally.CR001 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:24 pmThe fact that your second marriage does not have a divorce certificate. I don't know if HO will accept the 'null and void' information you mentioned. You have to prove to HO that you are/were free to marry to meet the requirements for a spouse visa.And what sought of concerns do you foresee that HO would raise ?
