Retained rights application refused becoz of ex's ID

[dihahs]

The difficulties in your case which home office always use, is that if you have her registration certificate and other documents, why not her ID card or passport.

Hi
sorry i just jumped here.


I have applied in November 2017 ROR without my Ex ID

Now i have my Ex ID. what you suggest me should i send it to home office? or wait for decision?

Thanks in advance.

[MD Islam]

The difficulties in your case which home office always use, is that if you have her registration certificate and other documents, why not her ID card or passport.

Hi
sorry i just jumped here.


I have applied in November 2017 ROR without my Ex ID

Now i have my Ex ID. what you suggest me should i send it to home office? or wait for decision?

Thanks in advance.

Hi
Honestly speaking u should send it as soon as possible referring ur case ID. Otherwise u may face refusal n u have to make another application n it will make more delay. My application for Ror is refused for ID issue. Guys I m trying to contact my ex but I can’t but then I m keeping all the records like phn calls n messages. Thinking to make another application with an attested copy of ID. Plz share ur experience if u guys get granted on the 2nd application

[whatislife786]

I got my ROR with out ex id any questions please ask.

[dihahs]

I got my ROR with out ex id any questions please ask.

Hi

When did you apply?
what documents did you sumit and covering letter?

Thanks

[dihahs]

The difficulties in your case which home office always use, is that if you have her registration certificate and other documents, why not her ID card or passport.

Thank you.


Hi
sorry i just jumped here.


I have applied in November 2017 ROR without my Ex ID

Now i have my Ex ID. what you suggest me should i send it to home office? or wait for decision?

Thanks in advance.

Hi
Honestly speaking u should send it as soon as possible referring ur case ID. Otherwise u may face refusal n u have to make another application n it will make more delay. My application for Ror is refused for ID issue. Guys I m trying to contact my ex but I can’t but then I m keeping all the records like phn calls n messages. Thinking to make another application with an attested copy of ID. Plz share ur experience if u guys get granted on the 2nd application

[pola 23]

I got my ROR with out ex id any questions please ask.

Hi.when did you apply for ROR and what alternative documents did you provide for not provinding your EX original iD?
Thanks

[whatislife786]

I got my ror January 2017 just told them unable to contact with sponsor so there for I can't provide id.

[Obie]

Current law only came into existence on the 1st February 2017 so could not have affected applicants receiving decisions in January 2017.

[dihahs]

Current law only came into existence on the 1st February 2017 so could not have affected applicants receiving decisions in January 2017.

Obie please reply me

I sent me application for ROR in November 2017 without my Ex ID

now i have My Ex ID should i send it to home office?

Thanks

[whatislife786]

I know someone who applied in July 2017 and got ror in December without ID.

[pola 23]

I know someone who applied in July 2017 and got ror in December without ID.

Hi.can you share his experience pls.tnxs

[MD Islam]

I know someone who applied in July 2017 and got ror in December without ID.

Hi.can you share his experience pls.tnxs

Pola, actually problem with our case is we have provided the pay slips until the right time but not the ID. Now case workers are saying if u can give that why not iD?? Now again for the 2nd application my ex has given me the last payslip which was missing but again not the ID n now she is ignoring me. But then she agreed to give me an attested copy when one of our common friend tried for me. Now I don’t know how to explain this situation to them. They will again say u can give the missing pay slip but not the ID why ??? But they don’t understand pay slips n ID are not the same!!! Pola did u apply on ur own 2nd time?

[pola 23]

Well No one will feel comfortable to give original Id to ex, tbh if my ex will ask me for my original Id then I dnt think I will give but hope for the best.

And yes with lawyer.

[MD Islam]

I know someone who applied in July 2017 and got ror in December without ID.

Pls tell us more about ur case n ur friend case Who got ror in December without id

[whatislife786]

Mate i filled up his form and explained very well in covering letter we are divorced and its very hard me to get his/her id card she even doesn't want to see my face and rest of the documents like pay slips etc i got from one of our common friend and she agreed to provide payslips but not id and financial statements. Hope it helps.

[Japanpiya]

Hey guys
Did you get some news about your ROR?
Please Obie explain about this '' notary ceritifed copy is valid for this case"

[pola 23]

Hi.still waiting mine is almost 15 weeks now

[Obie]

Hey guys
Did you get some news about your ROR?
Please Obie explain about this '' notary ceritifed copy is valid for this case"

It is just the luck of the draw. Home Office have been coming back in some cases and saying if you can get treaty rights documents from your partner then you can get passport.

A recent FTT judge agreed with my position that the comparison is absurd.

So will have to see. My policy has always been that the right under the directive to appeal cannot be denied because of a failure to meet administrative requirement s.

I am happy that Home Office has now stopped refusing appeal rights.

[pola 23]

Hope for the best but I remember in one of your case HO granted ROR without ID..

[MD Islam]

Hope for the best but I remember in one of your case HO granted ROR without ID..

According to EEA reg 42 Secretary of State may accept alternative ID if the situation is beyond applicant’s control but applicant needs to explain and give evidence of effort. If the reason is quite strong and believable they must accept it.

[Obie]

Hope for the best but I remember in one of your case HO granted ROR without ID..

In fact it was 2-cases in the summer of last year.

But recently they have toughened up. The only promising aspect is that courts are understanding difficulties.

[Obie]

Hope for the best but I remember in one of your case HO granted ROR without ID..

According to EEA reg 42 Secretary of State may accept alternative ID if the situation is beyond applicant’s control but applicant needs to explain and give evidence of effort. If the reason is quite strong and believable they must accept it.

The question is alternative ID. Home office appears to be refusing to accept copy of ID as alternative ID.

[pola 23]

Pls update us if any news come about your FTT Appeal.Thanks

[MD Islam]

Hope for the best but I remember in one of your case HO granted ROR without ID

The question is alternative ID. Home office appears to be refusing to accept copy of ID as alternative ID.

Obie,
My mistake it is alternative evidence of ID. In that case what can be an evidence? A photocopy or an attested copy! The problem was we didn’t mention about the regulations 21(6) n 42 in the cover letter. As they mention in my refusal letter they consider my application by 21(5) they need to see the ID but on the other hand the guidelines of home office page 20 they said a case worker should consider if the applicant can’t provide it becoz the situation beyond them and provide the effort at least they tried. Now if the law said n it is mentioned in the cover letter I don’t think they can’t further refuse!!

[MD Islam]

Pls update us if any news come about your FTT Appeal.Thanks

Pola, is it for me? I didn’t appeal as I got the last pay slip and an attested copy of ID. This time I m applying again with more explanation and some evidence that I tried. I got some screenshots of messages and emails. Did u get ur COA?