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Right forms and referees for british citizenship

Post by mydoubts » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:34 pm

Hi,

Me, My husband and my child (born outside UK) has ILR. In few months, we will qualify for Citizenship. I have few doubts regarding the form and fees:
1. Regarding the fees, I have gone through the UKVI document, since it has listed fees regarding other categories, I have doubt regarding that. Do I have to look for form AN Naturalisation fees alone or the registration fees also for the adults? For my child I believe only registration fees applies. Am I correct?
2. Is it just the Form AN for me and my husband to fill in ? And MN1 for my child born outside the UK?
3. Regarding the referee in the forms, if I get the referees signatures 2-3 months earlier before applying. is it ok?

Thanks.

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Re: Right forms and referees for british citizenship

Post by CR001 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:38 pm

1. Adults £1282 each. Children under 18 £973 each.

2. Separate AN form for each adult applicant. Separate MN1 for each child applicant.

3. Yes but try to get them as close to your application date as possible.
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Re: Right forms and referees for british citizenship

Post by mydoubts » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:07 pm

Thanks. Regarding the professional referee for the child, do he/she have to know the child for 3 years (my child is 3 years old) ? . Can they be a person working in local children's centre?

And, will we able to apply for our passport as well at the same time as naturalisation application?

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Re: Right forms and referees for british citizenship

Post by CR001 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:17 pm

Thanks. Regarding the professional referee for the child, do he/she have to know the child for 3 years (my child is 3 years old) ? . Can they be a person working in local children's centre?
This is fine as long as on the list of acceptable referees and engaged with the child.
And, will we able to apply for our passport as well at the same time as naturalisation application?
Yes but only if you apply using NCS at the council.
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Residency requirements for naturalisation

Post by mydoubts » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:51 am

Hi,

I became ILR (based on tier2 dependant) this year under 2 year rule. In the last 5 years I have absences of 325 days in total. In those absences, majority is from 220 days absences in single year in one go as I travelled to my home country to deliver my child.

Based on these, can anyone tell me is this a problem in applying for citizenship as absences in a year are over 180 days? I will be applying for naturalisation in few months.

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Re: Residency requirements for naturalisation

Post by EEA National » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:24 am

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Hi,

I became ILR (based on tier2 dependant) this year under 2 year rule. In the last 5 years I have absences of 325 days in total. In those absences, majority is from 220 days absences in single year in one go as I travelled to my home country to deliver my child.

Based on these, can anyone tell me is this a problem in applying for citizenship as absences in a year are over 180 days? I will be applying for naturalisation in few months.

Thanks
Hello,

According to the Naturalisation Booklet (Section 6(1) of the British Nationality Act 1981) to satisfy the residence requirements you need to be physically present in UK on the day 5 years before the application is received by the Home Office and not have had more than 450 days outside the United Kingdom in the five year period before making the application. Also you need to have no more than 90 days outside the UK in the 12 months preceding the application.

I think you are confused with the requirements for ILR application. But you have that alreasy, right?

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Re: Residency requirements for naturalisation

Post by mydoubts » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:26 am

Hi thanks. I have ilr. And exactly my doubts arises if there is any 180 days rule as in ILR main application, to qualify for naturalisation ?

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Re: Residency requirements for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:34 am

There is NO '180 days per 12 month' rule for citizenship.

It is clearly stated that you must not have 450 days in the WHOLE 5 years (or 270 days in the 3 years if your spouse is a BC) immediately prior to applying and no more than 90 days in the 12 months immediately before applying.
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Re: Residency requirements for naturalisation

Post by mydoubts » Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:26 pm

Thanks.

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Referee for passport application when using jcap

Post by mydoubts » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:24 pm

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For my naturalisation form, I am planning to use my driving instructor as professional referee and my friend as second referee. Both of them are british. I am going to apply for passport at the same time via ncs. NCS website clear says that they don't need me to complete section 10i.e countersignatory in passport form. But if I use driving instructor as professional referee then will they accept the reference for passport form as well? I have this question since driving instructor is not in the passport countersignatory accepted profession list. Please someone reply.

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Re: Referee for passport application when using jcap

Post by alterhase58 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:23 pm

As I understand it the referees for AN application are sufficient, plus the NCS validates your applications. Therefore no need for two sets of referees.
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Re: Referee for passport application when using jcap

Post by mydoubts » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:55 am

Hi
I can understand referee in naturalisation is enough but will they accept my passport form as well as my referee is a driving instructor who is not in the passport countersignatory accepted profession list.

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Re: Referee for passport application when using jcap

Post by mydoubts » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:56 pm

Hi
Kindly someone clarify my question. Thanks

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Re: Referee for passport application when using jcap

Post by CR001 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:58 pm

You need a referee that is on the citizenship referee list as far as I understand.
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Eligible date for naturalisation

Post by mydoubts » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:41 pm

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I have got my ILR brp issued on 25-Jan-2017 and my husband got his BRP issued on 10-Feb-2017. Can someone please tell me whether we are eligible to apply after 10-Feb this year for naturalisation i.e 11- Feb or 12-Feb? Thanks.

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Re: Eligible date for naturalisation

Post by secret.simon » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:46 pm

mydoubts wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:41 pm
I have got my ILR brp issued on 25-Jan-2017 and my husband got his BRP issued on 10-Feb-2017. Can someone please tell me whether we are eligible to apply after 10-Feb this year for naturalisation i.e 11- Feb or 12-Feb? Thanks.
Assuming that both your husband and you have got ILR, you can apply at any time after completing one year of ILR.

As naturalisation applications are not joint, you can apply any day after 25th Jan 2018 and your husband can apply any day after 10th Feb 2017.
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Re: Eligible date for naturalisation

Post by mydoubts » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:48 pm

Thanks for the reply.

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doubts in filling AN form

Post by mydoubts » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:46 am

Hi
can someone please clarify filling Form AN:

1. Can I type in electronically on the AN form instead of handwritten?
2. in referee section, when I fill in my name in the name box is it ok if I write my name with pen as referee will write it with pen his/her details?
3. If something is left to be filled during the ncs appointment, can I fill in with pen if I typed in electronically the rest of the form?

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Re: doubts in filling AN form

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:55 am

1. Yes.

2. Referees must complete the referee section themselves.

3. Yes.
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Re: doubts in filling AN form

Post by mydoubts » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:03 am

Thanks for your reply. in referee section, on the top there is a name field where my name should be filled. does my name also need to be filled by referee?

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Re: doubts in filling AN form

Post by CR001 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:04 am

The referees should complete the pages themselves as they are signing them.
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Referee made a mistake

Post by mydoubts » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:38 am

Hi
One of my referee who is a british has put his running age instead of his completed current age. Is that an issue?

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Re: Referee made a mistake

Post by CR001 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:43 am

What do you mean 'running age'???
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Re: Referee made a mistake

Post by mydoubts » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:44 am

Say his age is 41 completed. He has put 42

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Re: Referee made a mistake

Post by CR001 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:45 am

I don't think it is an issue.
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