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Just my opinion, but I don't think this security flag had anything at all to do with your passport being surrendered. The UK doesn't care or at all concern itself with other country's laws on passports and citizenship and such, and any nation's laws on that subject are strictly the provence of that nation. The UK stays out of it. That's strictly between the individual and their country.srivisaN wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:47 amHi,
Yesterday my wife got her ILR approved pretty stright forward process, just need to wait more time.
But the sad thing is while submitting the docs she was carrying my old India passport (which was cancelled as part of surrender passport process) and the CW asked her to give all passports documents she have.
Now, while handing over the originals the said they need to retain the my old india passport as it flagged in their system security as it should be given to Indian governemnt after I received my UK Citizenship. She made it clear that we have already done and explained about surrender passport process (only thing is she don't have my surrender certificate to prove that but only the old passport with a cut at edges).
Clearly they don't know the surrender passport processes (wherein we get the cancelled passport back along with surrender certificate) and they handed over a letter stating that my passport will be sent to Indian high commission.
Can anyone help me if someone already had such expereince and what is the possible complications that might arise in future
- complications from Indian Hight Commision (will they get any information from UK Home Office that there was a breach from my side)
- complication from UK Home Office (as this incident might put a remark on the system that I did something wrong)
I am trying to send my Surrender Certificate to UK Home office, bu there is no email address
I am also trying to contact India Hight Commission
No, I never travelled on that passport. The moment I received my UK passport, I surrendered it to Indian governmnet and got my OCI. I have travelled multiple times on my OCI, if Indian goverment had any issue they would have stopped me already.ouflak1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:18 pmJust my opinion, but I don't think this security flag had anything at all to do with your passport being surrendered. The UK doesn't care or at all concern itself with other country's laws on passports and citizenship and such, and any nation's laws on that subject are strictly the provence of that nation. The UK stays out of it. That's strictly between the individual and their country.srivisaN wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:47 amHi,
Yesterday my wife got her ILR approved pretty stright forward process, just need to wait more time.
But the sad thing is while submitting the docs she was carrying my old India passport (which was cancelled as part of surrender passport process) and the CW asked her to give all passports documents she have.
Now, while handing over the originals the said they need to retain the my old india passport as it flagged in their system security as it should be given to Indian governemnt after I received my UK Citizenship. She made it clear that we have already done and explained about surrender passport process (only thing is she don't have my surrender certificate to prove that but only the old passport with a cut at edges).
Clearly they don't know the surrender passport processes (wherein we get the cancelled passport back along with surrender certificate) and they handed over a letter stating that my passport will be sent to Indian high commission.
Can anyone help me if someone already had such expereince and what is the possible complications that might arise in future
- complications from Indian Hight Commision (will they get any information from UK Home Office that there was a breach from my side)
- complication from UK Home Office (as this incident might put a remark on the system that I did something wrong)
I am trying to send my Surrender Certificate to UK Home office, bu there is no email address
I am also trying to contact India Hight Commission
I think what's happened here is that you, or someone with your name, has raised an security concern that, as part of an international agreement between the UK and India, has caused India to ask the UK to sieze your passport at any earliest opportunity (in this case, your wife's ILR application).
Have you traveled to India on this passport recently? I think you should try to contact someone in the Indian government (not sure who really...) and try to sort out why India would be motivated to take such an extreme measure.
I'm not sure who the 'PSC guys' are, but if they are UK, they likely know nothing about the Indian passport rules and/or don't care/need to know.
Since we don't know, I suppose anything is possible. But I just can't believe that:zimba88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:19 pmAs your indian passport has been cancelled, it is very likely in my opinion that the passport number has been put on the some kind of a watch list by Indian authorities during cancellation process so it has to be returned to Indian high commision if ever seen by international immigration authorities.
I don't know.... Something is not right here. The is the United Kingdom. Not India. If India wants their passport back, then that's their problem, not the UK's.
You can of course apply for an SAR in your own name to see what notes the Home Office has on you, and probably a good idea for your wife to do the same, as the Indian passport was withheld in reference to her application.
As I understand it, those emails are handled by a third-party company and I would not rely on either their advice or their ability to pass the information on to the correct team in the Home Office. Save yourself the money.srivisaN wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:16 pmCan I use below link, it charges £5.48 but I hope it is better than a letter.[https://contact-ukvi.homeoffice.gov.uk/ ... ge/English
Thanks, Simon. Yes, I have not broker any UK law and India Law. Shall I wait for some more time before sending SAR request, I think "an electronic summary of your immigration history" would be enough for this case. Or do I need below toosecret.simon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:00 amYou can of course apply for an SAR in your own name to see what notes the Home Office has on you, and probably a good idea for your wife to do the same, as the Indian passport was withheld in reference to her application.
But, in any case, you have not broken any UK law, so I doubt there would be any negative comments on you.As I understand it, those emails are handled by a third-party company and I would not rely on either their advice or their ability to pass the information on to the correct team in the Home Office. Save yourself the money.srivisaN wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:16 pmCan I use below link, it charges £5.48 but I hope it is better than a letter.[https://contact-ukvi.homeoffice.gov.uk/ ... ge/English
Hi, I sent a letter to UKVI, Croydon, PSC. No response.srivisaN wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:18 amThanks, Simon. Yes, I have not broker any UK law and India Law. Shall I wait for some more time before sending SAR request, I think "an electronic summary of your immigration history" would be enough for this case. Or do I need below toosecret.simon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:00 amYou can of course apply for an SAR in your own name to see what notes the Home Office has on you, and probably a good idea for your wife to do the same, as the Indian passport was withheld in reference to her application.
But, in any case, you have not broken any UK law, so I doubt there would be any negative comments on you.As I understand it, those emails are handled by a third-party company and I would not rely on either their advice or their ability to pass the information on to the correct team in the Home Office. Save yourself the money.srivisaN wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:16 pmCan I use below link, it charges £5.48 but I hope it is better than a letter.[https://contact-ukvi.homeoffice.gov.uk/ ... ge/English
a list of your visa applications made in the UK
a particular decision letter
I will also try to send a letter to UKVI, Croydon, PSC.
Please ask any British citizenship questions in the British Citizenship sub forum.srivisaN wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:22 amHi,
My wife is trying to apply for British Citizenship soon and she need to answer below question on online application. w.r.t this issue, does she need to mention about what happened with my India passport. I think it is not necessary but wanted to know from the experts.
Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?
Yes (Husband)
Have any of these non-applying dependants been convicted of an offence or received a court order?
As per me I haven't convicted any offence and not received any court order, so NO
Thanks,
Sri.