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I disagree with that because in the sense that I am a Permanent Resident and in my Permanent Residence card says:Becoming a British citizen would give you an absolute right of abode in the UK, which you don't have at present.
"... Generally, after five years' residence in the UK exercising a treaty right a national of an EEA State becomes a permanent resident and may request a Document Certifying Permanent Residence. There are no restrictions on the activities which a national of an EEA State who is a permanent resident is able to undertake including:
Work
Self-employment
Study
Seeking access to social assistance on the same terms as a British Citizen.
Nationals of an EEA State who meet the relevant residence requirements are free to make an application for British Citizenship."
I doubt it. From what I have heard, the British Embassy shows very little compassion for the fate of "ordinary people", whereas a number of other European countries look quite well after their citizens. Of course it all depends, especially on what the previous nationality is.smacky123 wrote:my husband was in a similar situation and was advised to become a british citizen so that should anything happen to him abroad the british embassy is more efficient than other embassys an he can easily get help.
And those non-British Commonwealth citizens who have the right of abode in the UK (admittedly irrelevant in this case).sakura wrote:Even as a permanent resident, there are certain possibilities where you can be removed from the UK. British citizens cannot be removed from the UK, obviously because they have an inalienable and absolute right to be in their country.
Your Permanent Residence expires after a continuous period of 2 years away from the U.K.JJUSA wrote: My Permanet Residence card has no expire date so I assume is valid forever meaning I'm on those rights for the rest of my life, thus eliminating me of any Immigration control even if new rules will come in the future.
Generally, deportation happens after prison sentence, not as an alternative to it. (although there are agreements with some countries allowing prisoners to be deported early to finish their sentences in their home country).JJUSA wrote:Yes of course I understand that there's a difference in between a British Citizen and a Permanent Resident although I think they are minimal with the current policies. The example you gave of a criminal act which could made me deported to Portugal is something interesting to think about, however the probabilities of me commiting a crime are 1 in a billion :lol: plus if I get arrested for crime I go to jail and really jail is jail no big difference where unless I was from a third world country but as far as I'm concerned Portuguese criminals have TV and playstations inside for entretainment and they even do not get involved in community service :lol: also some are entitled to have electronic chains like here for those who are granted to stay at home instead of jail 8)
But what about a scenario of war? What if the UK gets in a pretty nasty war or a world war 3 and male British Citizens must go with no choice of refusal, that could be a negative point in having an UK passport
I don't think it would JAJ at least for EEA nationals since Permanent Residence is given automatically after 5 years residence. That would be force an EEA citizen to go to war on the basis of a Permanent Residency which he never asked for if that was the case (because some like me, had actually asked for a confirmation of PR). There's plenty of EEA nationals in the UK who live here for more than 5 years who are therefore Permanent Residents and they have not even a clue about it. My cousin is an example.. here for 8 years and only recently I told him he was a permanet resident already in which he replied.. " Am I? But I never called immigration to send me the forms!" Imagine if he would get a notice to present himself in the battlefield because he was a PR, I would pay to see his faceIf it ever came to that (unlikely), I think you'll find that permanent residents would be conscripted on the same basis as citizens.
Yes, but if it came to conscription (which is highly unlikely), it would be in a time of war, and extreme war at that; the government might well simply take the view that there were three choices: "be conscripted, leave the country, or face the consequences (whatever they might be)".JJUSA wrote:I don't think it would JAJ at least for EEA nationals since Permanent Residence is given automatically after 5 years residence. That would be force an EEA citizen to go to war on the basis of a Permanent Residency which he never asked for if that was the case (because some like me, had actually asked for a confirmation of PR). There's plenty of EEA nationals in the UK who live here for more than 5 years who are therefore Permanent Residents and they have not even a clue about it. My cousin is an example.. here for 8 years and only recently I told him he was a permanet resident already in which he replied.. " Am I? But I never called immigration to send me the forms!" Imagine if he would get a notice to present himself in the battlefield because he was a PR, I would pay to see his faceIf it ever came to that (unlikely), I think you'll find that permanent residents would be conscripted on the same basis as citizens.
Maybe, but not necessarily so, especially for spouses of British citizens who do not need to declare any intention to remain.calai wrote:If you have a permanent home in UK, you may deemed to be domiciled in UK. Previous (quite old) court cases have held that naturalize as British citizens is deemed to be taking UK as a choice of domicile.