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Tier 1 Entrepreneur to ILR

Post by NEXTSTEPUK » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:50 pm

Dear All ,

My 10 years long residency is going to complete on 7 September 2018 without any 180 days absence .

AND

My Tier 1 Entrepreneur 5 Years are going to complete on 28 October 2018

In both above cases i can fulfill all the requirement.

Question:

I have 3 dependents who are living with me as Tier 1 Entrepreneur Dependent since 17 May 2014. My dependent got visa on 17 December 2013 but entered in UK on 17 May 2014.

Besides of these 3 dependent , i have 1 more dependent (my son) who was born in April 2017 here in UK and i did not apply his dependent visa beacsue we do not have an attention to travel abroad.

I can apply ILR on 10 years basis in August 2018 and i can also apply ILR in October 2018 using Tier 1 Entrepreneur Route .

My and my dependents Tier 1 Entrepreneur Visas are going to expire in January 2019

Please advise which option should i use . I am really confused

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Re: Applying ILR Options

Post by cyclina1 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:33 am

If you get your ILR through 10 years route, your dependents cannot be PBS dependent anymore and have to switch to family visa with settled person. In this case their clock will reset to zero because and wait the other 5 years again.

So you should get your ILR based on Tier 1 PBS 5 years route, so they can extend their dependent visa as PBS dependent even you get ILR. And they can apply ILR through PBS dependent route.
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Re: Applying ILR Options

Post by cyclina1 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:34 am

So you should apply ILR in October 2018 using Tier 1 Entrepreneur Route, or you will reset their clock to zero if you apply ILR using 10 year route.
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Part time to full Time Employment

Post by NEXTSTEPUK » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:44 pm

Dear All,

I am going to apply ILR in October 2018 using Tier 1 Entrepreneur 5 Years Route .

One of my employees was working as part time from Feb-2016 to Jan-2018 as an Admin Officer

Now the same employee is working as Full time From Feb-2018 to continuous

So please advise how can i claim the points for this job or how can i use the part time and full time

1) Should he resigned the part time role of admin officer and we have to issue him the P45 and again re employee him in a different role as a full time employee

2) Should give him the promotion to Assistant Manager as full time from Feb-2018 OR

3) Carry on the same job of admin officer as full time from Feb-2018

Note: I got my initial Tier 1 Entrepreneur in Oct 2013 so i am on Transitional Arrangement


Please advise

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PBS ILR 5 Years Calculations

Post by NEXTSTEPUK » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:00 pm

Dear ALL,

My wife and two kids got Tier 1 Entrepreneur Dependent Visa on 17 December 2013 but they entered in UK on 14 May 2014 . Then successfully got Dependent extension till 23-01-2019 .Please advise when they can apply ILR .

Please see the following link as well


indefinite-leave-to-remain/pbs-dependen ... 50772.html

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Re: PBS ILR 5 Years Calculations

Post by zimba » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:09 am

November 2018 as now the visa issue date will be considered for PBS dependants too
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Re: Part time to full Time Employment

Post by zimba » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:13 am

Technically his hours per week must be increased to 30 hours a week at least. That's it.
Enter two periods on two separate rows in the job creation table
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Re: PBS ILR 5 Years Calculations

Post by NEXTSTEPUK » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:30 am

Dear Zimba ,

Thanks very much for your advise and highly appreciated. I am feeling a bit relax now that my dependent can apply ILR in November 2018 . Can you please share the link of these PBS Dependent ILR changes .

Please also advise when the Tier 1 Entrepreneur Pre April 2014 transitional arrangement is going to be ended because i was first planning to apply in October 2018 but now i am thinking to apply with dependent in November 2018 or December 2018


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Re: PBS ILR 5 Years Calculations

Post by CR001 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:38 am

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Re: PBS ILR 5 Years Calculations

Post by zimba » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:03 pm

Thanks very much for your advise and highly appreciated. I am feeling a bit relax now that my dependent can apply ILR in November 2018 . Can you please share the link of these PBS Dependent ILR changes .
uk-tier-1-general-visas/ilr-through-tie ... l#p1608226
Please also advise when the Tier 1 Entrepreneur Pre April 2014 transitional arrangement is going to be ended because i was first planning to apply in October 2018 but now i am thinking to apply with dependent in November 2018 or December 2018
From 6th April 2019 you cannot use the transitional arrangements, so apply before that date
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ILR and New Born Baby in UK

Post by NEXTSTEPUK » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:42 am

Dear All,

I am going to apply ILR using Tier 1 Entrepreneur Route myself with 3 dependents in November 2018. Besides these 3 dependent , we have a son who was born in UK in April 2017 and we did not apply his Tier 1 Entrepreneur dependent visa and still living without any visa. So after getting my ILR , I can straightway apply his naturalization , is it correct.

I have to mention his name in my ILR application and explain in the covering letter as well .

One more thing , i have to fill the 4 separate SET(O ) application form for me and my 3 dependents

Dependent visa issue date can be use towards the 5 years continuous period

as Dependent visa issue Dec 2013 and entered May 2014

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Re: ILR and New Born Baby in UK

Post by apsk » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:31 am

NEXTSTEPUK wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:42 am
Dear All,

I am going to apply ILR using Tier 1 Entrepreneur Route myself with 3 dependents in November 2018. Besides these 3 dependent , we have a son who was born in UK in April 2017 and we did not apply his Tier 1 Entrepreneur dependent visa and still living without any visa. So after getting my ILR , I can straightway apply his naturalization , is it correct. Yes

I have to mention his name in my ILR application and explain in the covering letter as well . No

One more thing , i have to fill the 4 separate SET(O ) application form for me and my 3 dependents No, you will only fill one form and give details of all your dependents in that

Dependent visa issue date can be use towards the 5 years continuous period Yes, it does

as Dependent visa issue Dec 2013 and entered May 2014

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Re: ILR and New Born Baby in UK

Post by marcnath » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:23 am

NEXTSTEPUK wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:42 am
I am going to apply ILR using Tier 1 Entrepreneur Route myself with 3 dependents in November 2018. Besides these 3 dependent , we have a son who was born in UK in April 2017 and we did not apply his Tier 1 Entrepreneur dependent visa and still living without any visa. So after getting my ILR , I can straightway apply his naturalization , is it correct.
Strictly speaking, you will apply for his british citizenship. That is not called naturalisation :)
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Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:42 am
Dependent visa issue date can be use towards the 5 years continuous period

as Dependent visa issue Dec 2013 and entered May 2014
in my opinion, the answer to this is No. The criteria for dependents is 5 years living together in the UK. That is met only 5 years from May 2014.
@apsk - I am interested in knowing if you know of any cases where the difference between visa grant and entry has been accepted as a qualifying period
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Re: ILR and New Born Baby in UK

Post by apsk » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:33 am

marcnath wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:23 am
NEXTSTEPUK wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:42 am
I am going to apply ILR using Tier 1 Entrepreneur Route myself with 3 dependents in November 2018. Besides these 3 dependent , we have a son who was born in UK in April 2017 and we did not apply his Tier 1 Entrepreneur dependent visa and still living without any visa. So after getting my ILR , I can straightway apply his naturalization , is it correct.
Strictly speaking, you will apply for his british citizenship. That is not called naturalisation :)
NEXTSTEPUK wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:42 am
Dependent visa issue date can be use towards the 5 years continuous period

as Dependent visa issue Dec 2013 and entered May 2014
in my opinion, the answer to this is No. The criteria for dependents is 5 years living together in the UK. That is met only 5 years from May 2014.
@apsk - I am interested in knowing if you know of any cases where the difference between visa grant and entry has been accepted as a qualifying period

I understand we can consider application date, visa granted or entry date to count the qualification period as long as there is no absence more than 180 days in any year. Please advise if you think otherwise?

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Re: ILR and New Born Baby in UK

Post by marcnath » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:37 am

apsk wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:33 am


I understand we can consider application date, visa granted or entry date to count the qualification period as long as there is no absence more than 180 days in any year. Please advise if you think otherwise?
Definitely NOT application date.

For main applicants, visa grant date can be considered if entry date is less than 90 days of grant.

For all other cases, it is only entry date.
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Re: ILR and New Born Baby in UK

Post by vinny » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:39 am

Some successes.
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Re: ILR and New Born Baby in UK

Post by apsk » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:48 am

vinny wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:39 am
Some successes.
Thank you Vinny :)

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Re: ILR and New Born Baby in UK

Post by NEXTSTEPUK » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:20 pm

@ marcnath

Please see the following link and as Zimba advised that the issuing visa date is also start considering towards the years continuous period for the PBS Dependent as well . Please advise

indefinite-leave-to-remain/pbs-ilr-5-ye ... 53804.html

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Re: ILR and New Born Baby in UK

Post by NEXTSTEPUK » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:43 pm

@ marcnath

Please see the following link as well

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 6.0EXT.PDF

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Re: PBS ILR 5 Years Calculations

Post by CR001 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:14 pm

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SETO Dependent Form

Post by NEXTSTEPUK » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:36 pm

Dear All,

I am going to apply ILR using Tier 1 Entrepreneur 5 Years route with 3 dependents. Could you please advise that i have to fill only 1 SETO form or i have to fill 4 separate SETO Form . Please advise

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Re: SETO Dependent Form

Post by cyclina1 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:51 am

one form. and tick the section that dependents applies together with you and fill in.all your dependents details.
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Re: SETO Dependent Form

Post by cyclina1 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:56 am

just my own opinion, you are going to pay ten of thousands pound for your whole family ILR. If your case is complicated, better instruct a solicitor to help. Just single mistake (like quite some ppl here related to taxation or employment issues) making your ILR refused, all will be rejected, and ten of thousand gone.....
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Re: PBS ILR 5 Years Calculations

Post by CR001 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:54 am

CR001 wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:14 pm
CR001 wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:38 am
Topics Merged (click)

Kindly keep ALL questions regarding ILR in ONE topic (this one).
Is there anything in the repeated requests to keep all questions in one topic that is unclear??
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Re: ILR and New Born Baby in UK

Post by marcnath » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:26 pm

NEXTSTEPUK wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:20 pm
@ marcnath

Please see the following link and as Zimba advised that the issuing visa date is also start considering towards the years continuous period for the PBS Dependent as well . Please advise

indefinite-leave-to-remain/pbs-ilr-5-ye ... 53804.html

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As @vinny’s link points out, the rules state 5 years living together in the UK for dependants. Good to see HO has not made a strict interpretation of that.
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