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Thank you!Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:You might want to send Prawo an message. He is a Dutch lawyer who seems to specialize in EU law immigration.
Do you satisfy the requirements of this paragraph? Does your gf satisfy the requirements of this paragraph?Persons who are normally required to hold a visa in order to be able to enter the Netherlands are exempt form this visa requirement when they are a family member of a citizen of the European Union who is exercising his/her right to free movement. In order to qualify for this exemption, the family member of the EU-citizen must hold a residence permit issued by a member state of the European Union (in accordance to EC directive 2004/38, the right to free movement of EU-citizens and their family members).
Not sure. Do I need a residency card from the Netherlands or the one from the UK will do?Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Do you satisfy the requirements of this paragraph? Does your gf satisfy the requirements of this paragraph?Persons who are normally required to hold a visa in order to be able to enter the Netherlands are exempt form this visa requirement when they are a family member of a citizen of the European Union who is exercising his/her right to free movement. In order to qualify for this exemption, the family member of the EU-citizen must hold a residence permit issued by a member state of the European Union (in accordance to EC directive 2004/38, the right to free movement of EU-citizens and their family members).
Is there some reason you think it might not apply to you?
Please reread carefully what they said to you.giruzz wrote:Not sure. Do I need a residency card from the Netherlands or the one from the UK will do?Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Do you satisfy the requirements of this paragraph? Does your gf satisfy the requirements of this paragraph?Persons who are normally required to hold a visa in order to be able to enter the Netherlands are exempt form this visa requirement when they are a family member of a citizen of the European Union who is exercising his/her right to free movement. In order to qualify for this exemption, the family member of the EU-citizen must hold a residence permit issued by a member state of the European Union (in accordance to EC directive 2004/38, the right to free movement of EU-citizens and their family members).
Is there some reason you think it might not apply to you?
This is interesting. The embassy said something like 'get lost'. Their ministry said 'all good'...Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Please reread carefully what they said to you.giruzz wrote:Not sure. Do I need a residency card from the Netherlands or the one from the UK will do?Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Do you satisfy the requirements of this paragraph? Does your gf satisfy the requirements of this paragraph?Persons who are normally required to hold a visa in order to be able to enter the Netherlands are exempt form this visa requirement when they are a family member of a citizen of the European Union who is exercising his/her right to free movement. In order to qualify for this exemption, the family member of the EU-citizen must hold a residence permit issued by a member state of the European Union (in accordance to EC directive 2004/38, the right to free movement of EU-citizens and their family members).
Is there some reason you think it might not apply to you?
Sorry Directive/2004/38/EC, but what are you trying to point out here? giruzz said that his girl friend does have a UK residence card though not inside the passport which the Dutch embassy obviously didn't like (and I must admit that I understand them). Do you mean that this form of residence card is not a residence permit?Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Please reread carefully what they said to you.giruzz wrote:Not sure. Do I need a residency card from the Netherlands or the one from the UK will do?Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Do you satisfy the requirements of this paragraph? Does your gf satisfy the requirements of this paragraph?Persons who are normally required to hold a visa in order to be able to enter the Netherlands are exempt form this visa requirement when they are a family member of a citizen of the European Union who is exercising his/her right to free movement. In order to qualify for this exemption, the family member of the EU-citizen must hold a residence permit issued by a member state of the European Union (in accordance to EC directive 2004/38, the right to free movement of EU-citizens and their family members).
Is there some reason you think it might not apply to you?
Just wondering: did she receive her passport and the residence card together but she got the residence card on a separate paper?giruzz wrote: Her dutch visa has been refused because her residency card is not endorsed on a passport but it is issued on a A4 paper.
Yes.86ti wrote:Just wondering: did she receive her passport and the residence card together but she got the residence card on a separate paper?giruzz wrote: Her dutch visa has been refused because her residency card is not endorsed on a passport but it is issued on a A4 paper.
Now. I am really shocked! Why wouldn't HO just stick it inside the passport if they had it available at that time.....?giruzz wrote:Yes.86ti wrote:Just wondering: did she receive her passport and the residence card together but she got the residence card on a separate paper?giruzz wrote: Her dutch visa has been refused because her residency card is not endorsed on a passport but it is issued on a A4 paper.
Sure but this is obviously the opinion of the dutch ministry of foreign affairs.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:The answer is very simple. She has a Residence Card issued by a member state of the EU. If you read the note that the Netherlands Embassy sent, she does not need a visa. Simple.
Well...The Dutch in London keep saying that is not valid and she needs a Schengen Visa....so I wouldn't be that sure that things will be smooth...Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:The border police are going to be well informed. If they have any problems, they can just call the British to confirm it is a valid Residence Card.
I think the embassy can anyway only give you advice and is in no position to force you to obtain a visa. As I said before the real challenge is check-in and border control. I hope that Directive/2004/38/EC is right and border police is better informed.giruzz wrote:Well...The Dutch in London keep saying that is not valid and she needs a Schengen Visa....so I wouldn't be that sure that things will be smooth...Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:The border police are going to be well informed. If they have any problems, they can just call the British to confirm it is a valid Residence Card.
(Then there is the problem that they are not issuing Schengen visas unless the Residency Card is issued on the passport).
giruz
86ti wrote:I think the embassy can anyway only give you advice and is in no position to force you to obtain a visa. As I said before the real challenge is check-in and border control. I hope that Directive/2004/38/EC is right and border police is better informed.giruzz wrote:Well...The Dutch in London keep saying that is not valid and she needs a Schengen Visa....so I wouldn't be that sure that things will be smooth...Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:The border police are going to be well informed. If they have any problems, they can just call the British to confirm it is a valid Residence Card.
(Then there is the problem that they are not issuing Schengen visas unless the Residency Card is issued on the passport).
giruz
I, by the way, have a similar problem with the Austrian embassy. But in this case they don't seem to accept UK residence cards at all.
Yes, but as I pointed out in the other thread the IATA database is in conflict with information that I received from the Estonian and Latvian embassies.giruzz wrote:Just a quick update....
If you check on the IATA database, for the Netherlands a visa is not required if holding a EEA Family member permit.
Austria, France and Italy are reported to ask for a Schengen visa.
At least for Italy this is recently changed and is not required anymore...
g.
86ti wrote:I think the embassy can anyway only give you advice and is in no position to force you to obtain a visa. As I said before the real challenge is check-in and border control. I hope that Directive/2004/38/EC is right and border police is better informed.giruzz wrote:Well...The Dutch in London keep saying that is not valid and she needs a Schengen Visa....so I wouldn't be that sure that things will be smooth...Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:The border police are going to be well informed. If they have any problems, they can just call the British to confirm it is a valid Residence Card.
(Then there is the problem that they are not issuing Schengen visas unless the Residency Card is issued on the passport).
giruz
I, by the way, have a similar problem with the Austrian embassy. But in this case they don't seem to accept UK residence cards at all.
Strange. Do you have a reference for this information? What about for Residence Card holders?giruzz wrote:The dutch embassy just changed their rules. For EEA Family Permit holders a schengen visa is not requested anymore to enter to the Netherlands.