New citizenship form UKF

[nlworth]

@Beth4025 Mine was signed for on the 25th and I still have no email/letter or fee deduction, they do say that part can take between 2 - 4 weeks in busy periods so I'll keep waiting until the 4 weeks is up before I get really worried.
Have you heard anything else yet?

Im just nervous as I am in the UK on a Tier 5 Youth Mobility Visa and have now sent the Home Office my passport, birth certificate and BRP so am basically left here with no identification until this is processed!

have you kept digital copies of your documents? i always find helpful keeping a copy of all important docs on my PC (Passport scans ,Birth certificates etc)

it has taken them exactly 14 days to acknowledge my sons application so fingers crossed you will get yours soon

Hi again,

Just updating that the processing fee was deducted from my account today!
My timeline so far is
June 23rd Sent application
June 25th Application signed for
July 13th Fee deducted from my account
July 16th Letter arrived to get biometrics done (dated 13th July)
July 23rd Enrolled my biometrics at the post office

Will keep updating as I progress.

[alanwar]

@nlworth, great news getting the biometrics. Did you get back your original documents (passport, etc) with the biometrics letter ?

[mercuree]

I have sent off my application (from within the UK via a friend who took it along).

My timeline so far:

• Application sent: ~2 July 2018
• Application received/signed for at UKBA: ~4 July 2018
• Ceremony fee deducted: 18 July 2018
• Acknowledgement email received (with case number): 19 July 2018

~Not 100% sure on these dates. Can't view the tracking info any more. But it was around those days.

I am not sure if I will need to enroll biometrics as I did biometrics for a tourist visa in August last year (visited my dad for a month).

I think I may be asked to do a DNA test as there are some complications W.R.T my birth certificate.

Holding thumbs!

[CR001]

I have sent off my application (from within the UK via a friend who took it along).

My timeline so far:

• Application sent: ~2 July 2018
• Application received/signed for at UKBA: ~4 July 2018
• Ceremony fee deducted: 18 July 2018
• Acknowledgement email received (with case number): 19 July 2018

~Not 100% sure on these dates. Can't view the tracking info any more. But it was around those days.

I am not sure if I will need to enroll biometrics as I did biometrics for a tourist visa in August last year (visited my dad for a month).

I think I may be asked to do a DNA test as there are some complications W.R.T my birth certificate.

Holding thumbs!

All applications require biometric enrollment, regardless of whether you have enrolled them for previous HO applications.

[mercuree]

All applications require biometric enrollment, regardless of whether you have enrolled them for previous HO applications.

Good to know! Thanks.

[nlworth]

All applications require biometric enrollment, regardless of whether you have enrolled them for previous HO applications.

Good to know! Thanks.

I only just got mine done end of April for my visa (for free in my home country) and I had to do them again on Monday, you also need to pay a £19.20 fee in the UK at the post office, you also cannot book appointments so just have to go in and wait in line ( I would recommend to try avoid going in on a Saturday)

[CR001]

All applications require biometric enrollment, regardless of whether you have enrolled them for previous HO applications.

Good to know! Thanks.

I only just got mine done end of April for my visa (for free in my home country) and I had to do them again on Monday, you also need to pay a £19.20 fee in the UK at the post office, you also cannot book appointments so just have to go in and wait in line ( I would recommend to try avoid going in on a Saturday)

The user 'mercuree' is not in the UK and applying from abroad so will be notified when to attend the application centre to enroll biometrics.

[alanwar]

I would appreciate any guidance around filling out questions 2.6 and 2.7 of the UKF form as it relates to speeding and parking tickets given in the USA.

Is it correct that I would need to list every single speeding and parking ticket that I received in the USA as they would be roughly equivalent to a FPN (Fixed Penalty Notice) ? To be clear there are only 3 speeding violations and 1 parking violation that I can remember, and most are 30+ years old. And for those I do remember I only know the rough time frame, perhaps the year in which it happened. If I fill these out as best that I can and also provide a note stating this, would that be sufficient ? My concern is that I miss one of the tickets and then they will consider this deception and reject my application.

Any advice is appreciated,

Alan

[alanwar]

I would appreciate if someone would be able to confirm that my father would be considered a British citizen by birth if he was born in Belfast, Northern Ireland in 1936. The question arises since I only have his birth certificate stating this but not his British passport nor his passport number. As he is long dead, there is no chance to get the old passport.

Is a UKF submission with only his birth certificate going to be sufficient to prove him to be a British citizen by birth ?

Anything is appreciated.

Alan

[Richard W]

Is a UKF submission with only his birth certificate going to be sufficient to prove him to be a British citizen by birth ?

Yes. You cannot be required to prove that he was not a foreign diplomat or similar unless there is good reason to believe that he was.

[basicdiagrams]

Hello everyone.

I've found out that I'm eligible to register as a UK citizen through my father and I'm intending to do so in the next couple of weeks. I'm living outside the UK.

I have a slight issue - when I received my father's birth certificate from England, I found out that he had been registered at birth by a different surname than his (and my) current one. He was registered at birth by his mother's maiden surname. However, his mother's (my grandmother's) surname on my father's birth certificate is our current surname and I have a copy of his (expired) passport with his/my current surname. He is officially registered as my father in my birth certificate. As I am no longer in contact with my father, do you reckon a support letter explaining the situation with the surnames and the copy of his passport will suffice in proving the relationship between us?

Thanks in advance

[jaffictram]

Hello
Please can someone advise me about sending documents to UK from South Africa.

When my son sends his application and documents to the UK, how does he arrange a courier or Special Delivery of his passport, Birth Certificate etc when his application is complete?

I dont trust the passage services in South Africa with these important documents.

Please can someone who has done this advise me?

Thank you

[PleasantThebest]

Hello
Please can someone advise me about sending documents to UK from South Africa.

When my son sends his application and documents to the UK, how does he arrange a courier or Special Delivery of his passport, Birth Certificate etc when his application is complete?

I dont trust the passage services in South Africa with these important documents.

Please can someone who has done this advise me?

Thank you

Does anyone have advice with regards to this? I am also in a similar situation. I sent an email inquiry to Home Office explaining this but they just referred me to the UKF guide. A pretty useless response actually because UKF guide tells me what I already know..

[mercuree]

Hello
Please can someone advise me about sending documents to UK from South Africa.

When my son sends his application and documents to the UK, how does he arrange a courier or Special Delivery of his passport, Birth Certificate etc when his application is complete?

I dont trust the passage services in South Africa with these important documents.

Please can someone who has done this advise me?

Thank you

Does anyone have advice with regards to this? I am also in a similar situation. I sent an email inquiry to Home Office explaining this but they just referred me to the UKF guide. A pretty useless response actually because UKF guide tells me what I already know..

You could look into something like Aramex Global Shopper. It gives you a post box in the country of origin and then gets delivered to your door via courier. You just need to include a self addressed envelope with the application documents, for the return. Not sure how one would organize that while not in the UK as it needs to be a Royal Mail envelope AFAIK. I was in the UK recently so purchased one while I was there. But I am having the documents sent back to my dad in the UK as that is even safer.

[mercuree]

My timeline so far:

• Application sent: ~2 July 2018
• Application received/signed for at UKBA: ~4 July 2018
• Ceremony fee deducted: 18 July 2018
• Acknowledgement email received (with case number): 19 July 2018

• 28 July 2018 - Received biometrics letter
• 28 July 2018 - mailed TLSContact for appointment (as instructed in letter). No response.
• 2 Aug 2018 - mailed TLSContact for appointment (as instructed in letter). No response.

[PleasantThebest]

Hello
Please can someone advise me about sending documents to UK from South Africa.

When my son sends his application and documents to the UK, how does he arrange a courier or Special Delivery of his passport, Birth Certificate etc when his application is complete?

I dont trust the passage services in South Africa with these important documents.

Please can someone who has done this advise me?

Thank you

Does anyone have advice with regards to this? I am also in a similar situation. I sent an email inquiry to Home Office explaining this but they just referred me to the UKF guide. A pretty useless response actually because UKF guide tells me what I already know..

You could look into something like Aramex Global Shopper. It gives you a post box in the country of origin and then gets delivered to your door via courier. You just need to include a self addressed envelope with the application documents, for the return. Not sure how one would organize that while not in the UK as it needs to be a Royal Mail envelope AFAIK. I was in the UK recently so purchased one while I was there. But I am having the documents sent back to my dad in the UK as that is even safer.

Hmm could be worth investigating. Its the only thing thats holding up my application at the moment. I'm not sure if its possible to order Royal Mail postage online outside of the UK. Does anyone else have experience with this? UKF guide just says that if I don't include Royal Mail Special Delivery envelope, it will be send via second class post or 1st class airmail if overseas. Maybe second class post to Aramex Global Shopper address in UK which will then forward on to local address in South Africa?

[mercuree]

Maybe second class post to Aramex Global Shopper address in UK which will then forward on to local address in South Africa?

This is basically what I was suggesting. Aramex is fairly reliable and cheap. Around R140 for anything up to 1kg. So documents will be fine. You will get a UK address from them - to which the UKVI can send your docs which will then be couriered to you.

I got my account for free as I am an fnb user and one also gets discounts on rates via them. Not 100% sure what the experience would be for a regular user.

[PleasantThebest]

For anyone concerned about getting their documents back and you're an overseas applicant... don't buy a prepaid Royal Mail International Signed and Tracked as the UKF Guide suggests. Once you buy a tracking label, you have until the end of the next working day to post the letter, which is obviously impossible. I found this out this hard way and wasted £13 odd on a useless tracking label because I didn't read the Royal Mail FAQs properly - which I concede is my own fault. HO should really remove this suggestion from the guide as one can't include a prepaid label because you'll never know for sure when the HO are actually going to post your documents back

[mercuree]

Has anyone in South Africa had much experience with booking their biometric appointment with TLSContact?

It has been a week since I contacted them to book my appointment. I used the email address and information as instructed in my Biometrics Letter.

I have had no response;, not even an automated acknowledgement of receipt which, considering one only has 4 weeks to get this done, this is a little worrying.

I have used their website contact form, as well as sending two mails to the address specified in the Biometrics Letter.

I also sent a mail to the UKVI enquiry mail as specified in the letter and got a canned response stating that I have to contact TLSContact.

I tried phoning TLSContact - which lead to a canned message saying I need to contact the UKVI.

[mercuree]

So I managed to find a call center number for tlscontact. the lady told me that they do not process UK biometrics. Which is crazy, considering I did my biometrics at their office less than 12 months ago for my visa.

I have since paid to submit an inquiry with UKVI as the suggested contact address yields a canned response which is in no way applicable to my situation.

[Giacomo378]

Hi all, it's me again

Does anybody know precisely how does the registration certificate's number look like (how many digits for example)?

My father's certificate is pretty old; the only numbers I could find are on top of the front page, but I don't know which of the 2 of them is correct: the one on the left corner is composed by one letter and 5 digits, handwritten, while the one on the right corner is made by 5 printed digits.....
I think it's the latter but I'd like to have confirmation....

[mercuree]

Hi all, it's me again

Does anybody know precisely how does the registration certificate's number look like (how many digits for example)?

My father's certificate is pretty old; the only numbers I could find are on top of the front page, but I don't know which of the 2 of them is correct: the one on the left corner is composed by one letter and 5 digits, handwritten, while the one on the right corner is made by 5 printed digits.....
I think it's the latter but I'd like to have confirmation....

You could try plugging his information into https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ and seeing what comes up there.

[PleasantThebest]

So I managed to find a call center number for tlscontact. the lady told me that they do not process UK biometrics. Which is crazy, considering I did my biometrics at their office less than 12 months ago for my visa.

I have since paid to submit an inquiry with UKVI as the suggested contact address yields a canned response which is in no way applicable to my situation.

This lady is probably not well informed. I had a friend who recently did biometrics for his visa application about 2 weeks ago. Also read a post from someone on another forum a couple of days ago who was going to TLSContact for biometrics for a UKM application (in SA). You should ask for a supervisor or something. Let us know how it goes. I sent off my documents for UKF yesterday

[Giacomo378]

Hi all, it's me again

Does anybody know precisely how does the registration certificate's number look like (how many digits for example)?

My father's certificate is pretty old; the only numbers I could find are on top of the front page, but I don't know which of the 2 of them is correct: the one on the left corner is composed by one letter and 5 digits, handwritten, while the one on the right corner is made by 5 printed digits.....
I think it's the latter but I'd like to have confirmation....

You could try plugging his information into https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ and seeing what comes up there.

Thank you, but unfortunately it's just for births marriages and deaths, it doesn't include registration certificates....

[mercuree]

So I managed to find a call center number for tlscontact. the lady told me that they do not process UK biometrics. Which is crazy, considering I did my biometrics at their office less than 12 months ago for my visa.

I have since paid to submit an inquiry with UKVI as the suggested contact address yields a canned response which is in no way applicable to my situation.

This lady is probably not well informed. I had a friend who recently did biometrics for his visa application about 2 weeks ago. Also read a post from someone on another forum a couple of days ago who was going to TLSContact for biometrics for a UKM application (in SA). You should ask for a supervisor or something. Let us know how it goes. I sent off my documents for UKF yesterday

Yeah. I did my visa biometrics at the very same center last year.

The problem is they have no public contacts. I had to "hack" my way through by phoning a random landline I found on another website, pushing 1 for AU instead of UK and then asking to be put through to UK. Coz if you push 2 for UK they say "Phone the UKVI on this British phone number". The AU and UK people share the same office.

I have since sent all the information and dates to UKVI paid support (R150 an email!). They are looking into it.