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Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by dcot78 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:54 am

Hello,

I am basically going to marry with a girl in Pakistan after 2 months and yesterday I have received few letters from her regarding immigration history.

She applied a visitor visa end of 2014 and she got rejected. After that she applied another visa next year May 2015 which was student visa. My fiancé has a brother in UK and when they applied for visitor visa in 2014 they declared that they don’t have any relative in UK and they did the same thing when applied for student visa (They didn’t declare they have any family in UK but his brother was in living in London).

Embassy did a telephonic interview for student visa and she told them that her brother is in UK – in short story they rejected her student visa because according to them she lied on the application form at question 65. They appealed the decision but nothing changed. They said in rejection letter “In light of such deception in your previous application for entry clearance I am refusing this application for entry clearance under paragraph 245ZV(a) and paragraph 320(7B) of the immigration rule. Any future applications will also be automatically refused, for the same reason, under paragraph 320(7B) of the immigration rules until 23/11/2024.

Now I am going to marry her in next 2 months and I am very worried since yesterday that she won’t be able to come to UK until 2024 :(

I have ILR visa and I don’t know what to do, do you think she would be able to get a visa if I apply as spouse/dependent visa in future ?

Your help will be highly appreciated, Many thanks

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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by vinny » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:41 am

Fortunately, a spouse visa applicant under Appendix FM is exempted from 320(7B) under A320.
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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by dcot78 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:45 am

Thanks for your reply.

But do you think It can be a problematic ? Her immigration history is quiet bad as she was also rejected for hungry student visa so do you think they will consider her history and can apply any other paragraph or rules etc ? In previous visas according to embassy she has lied with them so will it be considerable ?

All of my documents are right and I am meeting all the requirements but I am just worried about my fiance's immigration history.

Let me know please, Many thanks

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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by spreekhan » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:14 pm

Hi
As rule A320 spouse visa is exempt 320 7b.
If you meet requirements financial and accommodation. You will get visa remember mention all visa history also refusal of hungry student visa. I'm visa form.

Because your spouse don't have aggravating circumstances 320 (11) doesn't apply on her.

They only refuse you.
In relationship requirements that your relationship does not long.
Because you just getting married.

To cover this you have to show cohabiting relationship proof.

Like pregnancy report or.
Picture of wedding is not enough.
Because they assume that girl married only to go uk because her brother also there.

As much proof you add on relationship you get visa very quick.

Like joint account.

320 7b is not applicable in your case.

Also this case will be deal by senior case worker and ENTRY CLEARANCE team.

It take more time May be more than 12 weeks time.

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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by dcot78 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:43 am

Thanks for your detailed reply.

I am meeting all the visa requirements which are required in spouse visa including financial.

I've already open a joint account with my fiance and I can also provide some other proofs which can show that relationship is genuine.

I am mostly worried about my fiance's immigration history which could be effective in this case, everything from my side is clear as I've never broken any law in UK.

Should I provide some more information about her previous visa history that what went wrong and any other useful detail when I am applying for spouse visa ?

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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by vinny » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:19 pm

Must declare previous refusal(s).
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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by dcot78 » Thu May 24, 2018 10:15 am

spreekhan wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:14 pm
Hi
As rule A320 spouse visa is exempt 320 7b.
If you meet requirements financial and accommodation. You will get visa remember mention all visa history also refusal of hungry student visa. I'm visa form.

Because your spouse don't have aggravating circumstances 320 (11) doesn't apply on her.

They only refuse you.
In relationship requirements that your relationship does not long.
Because you just getting married.

To cover this you have to show cohabiting relationship proof.

Like pregnancy report or.
Picture of wedding is not enough.
Because they assume that girl married only to go uk because her brother also there.

As much proof you add on relationship you get visa very quick.

Like joint account.

320 7b is not applicable in your case.

Also this case will be deal by senior case worker and ENTRY CLEARANCE team.

It take more time May be more than 12 weeks time.
Have you dealt with this kind of case before ?

As you've mentioned I should mention all previous visa history including Hungarian then it should be mentioned in cover letter or visa form ?

Your help will be highly appreciated. Many thanks

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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by Londoner007 » Thu May 24, 2018 10:18 am

What's important is that all previous visa application needs to be declared to them.
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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by spreekhan » Thu May 24, 2018 10:35 am

320 doest effect your case if you apply spouse visa.
I just got visa in march 2018. My wife has 320 in past.
No problem don't listen to any one just apply show all refusal in history.

I'm also from Pakistan.

Just read my story o n immigration boards.

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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by spreekhan » Thu May 24, 2018 10:44 am

Spouse visa with 320 7b and 320 ( 11)(iv)

Just search this topic.
This is my topic

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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by Londoner007 » Thu May 24, 2018 10:49 am

It shouldn't affect the spouse (settlement) visa application.
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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by CR001 » Thu May 24, 2018 10:51 am

spreekhan wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 10:44 am
Spouse visa with 320 7b and 320 ( 11)(iv)

Just search this topic.
This is my topic
Not all members have the 'search' function for some reason.

If you are going to refer to your own posts, usually helpful to post the link to your thread :idea:
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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by dcot78 » Thu May 24, 2018 11:34 am

spreekhan wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 10:35 am
320 doest effect your case if you apply spouse visa.
I just got visa in march 2018. My wife has 320 in past.
No problem don't listen to any one just apply show all refusal in history.

I'm also from Pakistan.

Just read my story o n immigration boards.
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply :)

I've discussed this case with several solicitors and most of them don't provide the accurate information but they are more interested to make me their client. I've read your post and this is the reason I am contacting you to get some advice as you've dealt with similar case before. Any possibility to discuss this case in more details with you as your help will highly valuable.

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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by spreekhan » Thu May 24, 2018 11:46 am

Solicitor do not tell any one free of cost.
I make my case without solicitor.
Spouse visa is very easy visa home office design this to allow spouses to join the heir partner.

You need to follow appendex fm- se

If you read understand write English than you don't need solicitor.

You need to write your immigration history in detail.
Otherwise pay solicitor.
Most of Asian solicitor want.
Case.
Than refuse
Than appeal.
Than they make 4000 pounds in total.

It cost you time and money.
They don't care how much you suffer in between the final result.

Find legal 500 lawyer.
Pay one tine.
Get visa 100 percent

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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by Londoner007 » Thu May 24, 2018 11:56 am

I agree, for straightforward cases you do not need a solicitor.
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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by dcot78 » Thu May 24, 2018 12:11 pm

spreekhan wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 11:46 am
Solicitor do not tell any one free of cost.
I make my case without solicitor.
Spouse visa is very easy visa home office design this to allow spouses to join the heir partner.

You need to follow appendex fm- se

If you read understand write English than you don't need solicitor.

You need to write your immigration history in detail.
Otherwise pay solicitor.
Most of Asian solicitor want.
Case.
Than refuse
Than appeal.
Than they make 4000 pounds in total.

It cost you time and money.
They don't care how much you suffer in between the final result.

Find legal 500 lawyer.
Pay one tine.
Get visa 100 percent
This is the exactly reason I don't want my case to be handled by solicitors because I've experienced them through consultations. Even I've booked paid consultation but still they don't explain you everything; only want you to be their client.

I will be handling this case myself as previously I've handled all my visa's myself. What you mean by legal 500 lawyer, could you please explain this in more detail ?

Also when I am going to apply for spouse visa, I am definitely going to mention all previous refusals on the application form but should I also explain in the covering letter ? Should I mention them what has been done in past is not going to happen again ?

I am not sure about covering letter which details need to be mentioned to make this case stronger? rest of documents are pretty straight forward including application form.

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Re: Marriage Visa - Paragraph 320 (7B)

Post by dcot78 » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:13 pm

spreekhan wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 11:46 am
Solicitor do not tell any one free of cost.
I make my case without solicitor.
Spouse visa is very easy visa home office design this to allow spouses to join the heir partner.

You need to follow appendex fm- se

If you read understand write English than you don't need solicitor.

You need to write your immigration history in detail.
Otherwise pay solicitor.
Most of Asian solicitor want.
Case.
Than refuse
Than appeal.
Than they make 4000 pounds in total.

It cost you time and money.
They don't care how much you suffer in between the final result.

Find legal 500 lawyer.
Pay one tine.
Get visa 100 percent

Thanks very much "spreekhan" - Visa is granted :)

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