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British Passpor for child born after PR

Post by eea1212 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:55 pm

I received the DCPR in the beginning of this month. So it took around 29 days from start to end. They had also included an additional letter in which they had stated that I became permanent a year ago with the exact date in the past mentioned on it.

Now, I have another question to ask:

My child is born a couple of weeks ago. I am wondering if I have to first apply using form MN1 to register the child as British citizen or it is not required and that I can simply apply for his first British Passport using the passport application form available from the post office?

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Post by NikiGio » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:02 pm

eea1212 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:55 pm
I received the DCPR in the beginning of this month. So it took around 29 days from start to end.
Great, congrats!
eea1212 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:55 pm
My child is born a couple of weeks ago. I am wondering if I have to first apply using form MN1 to register the child as British citizen or it is not required and that I can simply apply for his first British Passport using the passport application form available from the post office?
Congrats also on the birth of your baby! Because the baby was born after you acquired PR - the baby is automatically British, so you can apply direct for a passport (form MN1 not required).

All the best and hope you get some sleep 😊
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Post by eea1212 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:57 pm

Thank you very much :)

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Post by eea1212 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:55 pm

Besides the child's birth certificate and his two photographs, will I need to send my original EU passport, my DCPR, my wife's EU passport, our marriage certificate, etc along with his passport application?

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Post by eea1212 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:55 am

It appears that the online passport application form cannot be used by us as it expects us to fill in the parents UK passport numbers and issue dates and if we leave them blank then it goes on to ask about grand parents UK passport numbers and issue dates. There is no place where it asks to choose permanent residence instead of that.

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Re: British Passpor for child born after PR

Post by CR001 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:28 am

I have split your British passport questions from your PR topic and moved the posts to the British Citizen sub forum.

Please continue any passport/citizenship questions here as they are not relevant to the EEA sub forum.
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Re: British Passpor for child born after PR

Post by CR001 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:28 am

eea1212 wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:55 am
It appears that the online passport application form cannot be used by us as it expects us to fill in the parents UK passport numbers and issue dates and if we leave them blank then it goes on to ask about grand parents UK passport numbers and issue dates. There is no place where it asks to choose permanent residence instead of that.
Note, we cannot see the online form and questions.

You could of course use the paper form too.

You also only complete sections that are relevant and not all sections are relevant to everyone.
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Re: British Passpor for child born after PR

Post by eea1212 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:57 am

CR001 wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:28 am
Note, we cannot see the online form and questions.
https://www.gov.uk/apply-renew-passport

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Re: British Passpor for child born after PR

Post by CR001 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:59 am

eea1212 wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:57 am
CR001 wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:28 am
Note, we cannot see the online form and questions.
https://www.gov.uk/apply-renew-passport
I did not say we don't know the link. I said as we cannot possibly see the questions without having to register with every HO form/link to see it!!
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Re: British Passpor for child born after PR

Post by NikiGio » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:20 pm

eea1212 wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:55 am
It appears that the online passport application form cannot be used by us as it expects us to fill in the parents UK passport numbers and issue dates and if we leave them blank then it goes on to ask about grand parents UK passport numbers and issue dates. There is no place where it asks to choose permanent residence instead of that.
Leave the grandparents section blank too or put XXX or similar - and explain in the notes that the British passport claim is based on your DCPR.
I've not done a passport application, so can't advise further - read through this HO doc, if not already done so: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... plications
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Re: British Passpor for child born after PR

Post by eea1212 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:33 pm

NikiGio wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:20 pm
Leave the grandparents section blank too or put XXX or similar - and explain in the notes that the British passport claim is based on your DCPR.
I have done it as NikiGio says. I have submitted the online application instead of the paper one. Left grandparents section completely blank and in the end in notes section I mentioned that I have permanent residence. In supporting documents I had posted the declaration with my original DCPR, photocopy of my EU passport, son's original birth certificate and his two photos. I posted it on last Friday, they received the post on this Monday, they posted the new passport back on this Thursday and it arrived on this Friday. That was I think really efficient, they took only two days (Tuesday & Wednesday) in between for the processing.

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Post by NikiGio » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:46 pm

Excellent, congrats! 👌 One more future voter :)
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Re: British Passpor for child born after PR

Post by eea1212 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:11 pm

Thanks :)

Now the next goal is to apply for the UK citizenship for my other EU kids who are well under 18 and were born obviously well before I became permanent UK resident.

This time I suppose I can't avoid MN1 application and £1092 fee :? per child? Unless there are going to be some change of rules after Brexit to ease the process or reduction of fees?

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Post by NikiGio » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:30 pm

eea1212 wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:11 pm
Now the next goal is to apply for the UK citizenship for my other EU kids who are well under 18 and were born obviously well before I became permanent UK resident.
What year were they born?
Where?
Presuming other parent is not British.
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Re: British Passport for children born before EU parent's PR

Post by eea1212 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:49 pm

NikiGio wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:30 pm
eea1212 wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:11 pm
Now the next goal is to apply for the UK citizenship for my other EU kids who are well under 18 and were born obviously well before I became permanent UK resident.
What year were they born?
Where?
Presuming other parent is not British.
Kids are between 6 & 9 years old, EU born citizens; My wife is also EU citizen. (They have all been here for 6 years same as me)

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Re: British Passpor for child born after PR

Post by eea1212 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:40 pm

So is it the MN1 application that I have to submit and £1092 fee that I have to pay per child?

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Post by CR001 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:41 pm

eea1212 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:40 pm
So is it the MN1 application that I have to submit and £1092 fee that I have to pay per child?
Yes.
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Re: British Passpor for child born after PR

Post by NikiGio » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:39 am

eea1212 wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:49 pm
Kids are between 6 & 9 years old, EU born citizens; My wife is also EU citizen. (They have all been here for 6 years same as me)
I would read this document well before applying:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... n-form-mn1
In these cases, the advice is to make sure that at least one parent has British citizenship or is applying for citizenship at the same ti.e, to make the case stronger. You can submit theur application via form MN1 at the HO's discretion, when one of you applies for citizebship.
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