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Chat log screenshots

Post by Exquisit33 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:34 am

Can you please clarify for spouse Visa do screenshots of WhatsApp chat history needed to be submitted from both the applicant and sponsor?

I have just read on a Facebook forum that someone’s visa was refused because the applicant didn’t submit his version of the chat logs as sponsor did their own version. Apparently the ECO needs to see both versions. Please clarify.

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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by CR001 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:36 am

Yes both to prove subsisting relationship.
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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by Exquisit33 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:44 am

Thank you.

Should the message be the same from
Both ends or can they be a mixture? Some he sends and some her of varying times?
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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by CR001 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:52 am

You simply need a selection of screenshots over a period between the two of you.
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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by HamzahB786 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:30 am

CR001 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:52 am
You simply need a selection of screenshots over a period between the two of you.
I didn't send chat logs of both sides just my side the sponsor
Could this be a major reason for refusal?
Or will they overlook it?
Is it a definite refusal or some overlook it?
As iv sent mine off now :(

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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by CandyLee » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:51 am

I don't think this would be a definite refusal or a major reason to fail.
Every application is different and every caseworker has their own opinion.
As long as you have submitted all the correct documents and meet the requirements, it shouldn't be a big issue. :D

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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by seagul » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:26 pm

HamzahB786 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:30 am
CR001 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:52 am
You simply need a selection of screenshots over a period between the two of you.
I didn't send chat logs of both sides just my side the sponsor
Could this be a major reason for refusal?
Or will they overlook it?
Is it a definite refusal or some overlook it?
As iv sent mine off now :(
If you are sending the chat logs only from your side then as per common sense it will cover from both. Visa wont be refused based on that reason but your other proofs should be sufficient too.
The opinion expressed as above is neither a professional advice nor contesting/competing to other member's opinion/advice.

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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by farhantahir786 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:48 pm

Sorry to butt in... But i agree with Seagul. Unless the screenshots only show one side of the conversation? (E.g. just sponsor messages)

Chats should show messages from both the applicant and the sponsor...

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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by Jav9289 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:28 pm

seagul wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:26 pm
HamzahB786 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:30 am
CR001 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:52 am
You simply need a selection of screenshots over a period between the two of you.
I didn't send chat logs of both sides just my side the sponsor
Could this be a major reason for refusal?
Or will they overlook it?
Is it a definite refusal or some overlook it?
As iv sent mine off now :(
If you are sending the chat logs only from your side then as per common sense it will cover from both. Visa wont be refused based on that reason but your other proofs should be sufficient too.
Thank you for making sense. Whatsapp chat will be the same for both sponsor and applicant. Also screenshotting whatsapp chat will not show the date.

You are supposed to the export the chat.
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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by seagul » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:00 pm

Jav9289 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:28 pm
seagul wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:26 pm
HamzahB786 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:30 am
CR001 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:52 am
You simply need a selection of screenshots over a period between the two of you.
I didn't send chat logs of both sides just my side the sponsor
Could this be a major reason for refusal?
Or will they overlook it?
Is it a definite refusal or some overlook it?
As iv sent mine off now :(
If you are sending the chat logs only from your side then as per common sense it will cover from both. Visa wont be refused based on that reason but your other proofs should be sufficient too.
Thank you for making sense. Whatsapp chat will be the same for both sponsor and applicant. Also screenshotting whatsapp chat will not show the date.

You are supposed to the export the chat.
Don't export the chat because it can be edited rather take its screen shots and if you carefully check the whatsapp then on each day the date & day & time does appear at top.
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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by Jav9289 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:49 pm

seagul wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:00 pm
Jav9289 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:28 pm
seagul wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:26 pm
HamzahB786 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:30 am


I didn't send chat logs of both sides just my side the sponsor
Could this be a major reason for refusal?
Or will they overlook it?
Is it a definite refusal or some overlook it?
As iv sent mine off now :(
If you are sending the chat logs only from your side then as per common sense it will cover from both. Visa wont be refused based on that reason but your other proofs should be sufficient too.
Thank you for making sense. Whatsapp chat will be the same for both sponsor and applicant. Also screenshotting whatsapp chat will not show the date.

You are supposed to the export the chat.
Don't export the chat because it can be edited rather take its screen shots and if you carefully check the whatsapp then on each day the date & day & time does appear at top.
Really? My solicitor didnt say anything about that

Plus you can easily deceive through screenshots i.e have a chat with someone else and then change the name of the person as your spouse :!:
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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by seagul » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:30 pm

Jav9289 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:49 pm
seagul wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:00 pm
Jav9289 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:28 pm
seagul wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:26 pm


If you are sending the chat logs only from your side then as per common sense it will cover from both. Visa wont be refused based on that reason but your other proofs should be sufficient too.
Thank you for making sense. Whatsapp chat will be the same for both sponsor and applicant. Also screenshotting whatsapp chat will not show the date.

You are supposed to the export the chat.
Don't export the chat because it can be edited rather take its screen shots and if you carefully check the whatsapp then on each day the date & day & time does appear at top.
Really? My solicitor didnt say anything about that

Plus you can easily deceive through screenshots i.e have a chat with someone else and then change the name of the person as your spouse :!:
Search the forum, a lot got success with screenshots. If they will feel any suspicion then might interview both individually.
The opinion expressed as above is neither a professional advice nor contesting/competing to other member's opinion/advice.

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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by Jav9289 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:42 pm

seagul wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:30 pm
Jav9289 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:49 pm
seagul wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:00 pm
Jav9289 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:28 pm


Thank you for making sense. Whatsapp chat will be the same for both sponsor and applicant. Also screenshotting whatsapp chat will not show the date.

You are supposed to the export the chat.
Don't export the chat because it can be edited rather take its screen shots and if you carefully check the whatsapp then on each day the date & day & time does appear at top.
Really? My solicitor didnt say anything about that

Plus you can easily deceive through screenshots i.e have a chat with someone else and then change the name of the person as your spouse :!:
Search the forum, a lot got success with screenshots. If they will feel any suspicion then might interview both individually.
And I personally know people who have had success with just exporting the chat. Plus like I said if there was anything wrong with that then Im sure my Solicitor would have mentioned it.
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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by seagul » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:51 pm

Jav9289 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:42 pm
seagul wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:30 pm
Jav9289 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:49 pm
seagul wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:00 pm


Don't export the chat because it can be edited rather take its screen shots and if you carefully check the whatsapp then on each day the date & day & time does appear at top.
Really? My solicitor didnt say anything about that

Plus you can easily deceive through screenshots i.e have a chat with someone else and then change the name of the person as your spouse :!:
Search the forum, a lot got success with screenshots. If they will feel any suspicion then might interview both individually.
And I personally know people who have had success with just exporting the chat. Plus like I said if there was anything wrong with that then Im sure my Solicitor would have mentioned it.
In that case then you go ahead by exporting the chat as per your solicitor saying.
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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by lukus » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:34 pm

Jav9289 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:28 pm
Whatsapp chat will be the same for both sponsor and applicant. Also screenshotting whatsapp chat will not show the date.

You are supposed to the export the chat.
We used Whatsapp screenshots, and to get the date to appear you simply need to 'scroll' the chat slightly, it will then show at the top and you can screenshot with a date. All our screenshots came from my wife's phone and facebook posts.

We also added comments to our pictures of relationship proof, and we pointed out that the date was shown at the top as provided by Whatsapp when scrolling. I did it this way since anyone can edit a chat log and the fact we have personal messages on there!

Being a phone's screenshot they can see the progressing phone's time and battery in the corner which would be even more complicated to do.

We also tied whatsapp screenshots to other images, i.e. Whatsapp comment of going to a party, then said Facebook post with our photo and friends @ party, with the facebook date

We also provided a link to our facebook (well, my wife's since I dont post) and made her wall public so they could check we didn't docture anything by going to her wall.

Finally, I had them all in a word document and offered to e-mail it so they could check the digital files which (should) have file data matching phone's time in screenshot etc so!

Our application was proccessed in a day from being given to one of their agents to review.

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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by Jav9289 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:51 pm

lukus wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:34 pm
Jav9289 wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:28 pm
Whatsapp chat will be the same for both sponsor and applicant. Also screenshotting whatsapp chat will not show the date.

You are supposed to the export the chat.
We used Whatsapp screenshots, and to get the date to appear you simply need to 'scroll' the chat slightly, it will then show at the top and you can screenshot with a date. All our screenshots came from my wife's phone and facebook posts.

We also added comments to our pictures of relationship proof, and we pointed out that the date was shown at the top as provided by Whatsapp when scrolling. I did it this way since anyone can edit a chat log and the fact we have personal messages on there!

Being a phone's screenshot they can see the progressing phone's time and battery in the corner which would be even more complicated to do.

We also tied whatsapp screenshots to other images, i.e. Whatsapp comment of going to a party, then said Facebook post with our photo and friends @ party, with the facebook date

We also provided a link to our facebook (well, my wife's since I dont post) and made her wall public so they could check we didn't docture anything by going to her wall.

Finally, I had them all in a word document and offered to e-mail it so they could check the digital files which (should) have file data matching phone's time in screenshot etc so!

Our application was proccessed in a day from being given to one of their agents to review.
Good if it works for you but like i said my solicitor didnt say anything against exporting chat and I also asked a different solicitor who didnt say against it either so obviously going to listen to them.
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Re: Chat log screenshots

Post by arsy20 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:02 pm

Screenshots would be best. Dont export chat.

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