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Hope it will be for those students stringing crappy course after crappy course for 10 years emerging with a HND in Media Studies and six diplomas in Wagnerian Tectonic Plate Theory.ci07jjs wrote:what about the 10 years one then?
Well, it is situation dependent. Not everyone who’s been living in the UK has been here for ten years constantly studying 'crappy courses' as such. I know of students who did their A levels, undergraduate, Masters and PhD mounting to 10 years of legal stay. Also there are students like myself who has been switching between work-permit and student visas. Besides, students work part-time (many do!) and pay their taxes. Therefore your stereotypical view on this rule is very harsh and I am sorry to say that.Wanderer wrote:Hope it will be for those students stringing crappy course after crappy course for 10 years emerging with a HND in Media Studies and six diplomas in Wagnerian Tectonic Plate Theory.ci07jjs wrote:what about the 10 years one then?
And loads of useless Microsoft certifiactions and no experience and 31 years old and never worked.
MCSE = Minefield Consultant and Solitaire Expert.
Can you tell I'm rather embittered on this subject!?
I didn't say they were, I qualified my statement specifically aiming it at those who did, pls re-read?ci07jjs wrote:Well, it is situation dependent. Not everyone who’s been living in the UK has been here for ten years constantly studying 'crappy courses' as such. I know of students who did their A levels, undergraduate, Masters and PhD mounting to 10 years of legal stay. Also there are students like myself who has been switching between work-permit and student visas. Besides, students work part-time (many do!) and pay their taxes. Therefore your stereotypical view on this rule is very harsh and I am sorry to say that.Wanderer wrote:Hope it will be for those students stringing crappy course after crappy course for 10 years emerging with a HND in Media Studies and six diplomas in Wagnerian Tectonic Plate Theory.ci07jjs wrote:what about the 10 years one then?
And loads of useless Microsoft certifiactions and no experience and 31 years old and never worked.
MCSE = Minefield Consultant and Solitaire Expert.
Can you tell I'm rather embittered on this subject!?
It shouldn't. But my belief (and observation) is that they are applying it retrospectively in principle - mainly by doing a cut and paste job in their refusal letters which cover every argument to infinity and beyond. If you can meet the rules of DP3/96 and the October concession it's worth considering whether or not you stand a better chance of applying from outside the UK.papa21 wrote:jei2, i know the dp3 96 was revoked , so if one has a pending application put in before this concession was revoked will i be able to benefit from it?? Also if the 7yr is revoked but one applies before its removed will the application be decided based on old rules??
Yes I've come across a number of people who have benefitted from the 7 year concession but like dp3/96 it can be a long wait. I'd use the waiting time to continue submitting documentary evidence especially anything relating to the child concerned - school reports, health issues, social networks, group membership, etc.chibage wrote:Jei2, whats your knowledge on the 7year concession? Have you come across anyone who has benefited from it? Or is it one of those concessions where they look for a tiny reason to refuse you? I have a friend who has been waiting over two years so its now actually 9 yrs that her kids have been here.
Exactly. The 7 year concession was implemented to comply with precedents set of the ECHR. I do not see how it could be scrapped without violating the ECHR judgement. However, it is possible that it will get more difficult to use the concession.jei2 wrote:I can't say what will happen on the 7 year concession. However children constitute a more vulnerable group generally. The government would have a lot more human rights issues to deal with if this concession were to go.