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Hi guys,marcia1234 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:09 amHi, So when you apply for a presettle status as a non eu spousse of a eu citizen you need to provide your spouse's 6 months payslip? I read caseworkers guide it does not mention about that, could you please share how do you know that ?inesbankole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:18 amHi all,
Quick advice please guys.
I am non eu citizen married to a eu citizen but no living together anymore.
I have my 5 year residence card and still valid until 2021.
I am planning to travel outside the Uk in may for 2 months.
I want to apply for the pre settled status, i started the application but missing the payslip of the last 6 months of my Wife
I begged her but she is not willing to give it to me.
I do have some of her payslips but it is not recent at all 1 year ago payslips.
I do not know what to do.
I don't want to find myslef in trouble at the border when i return from my trip.
Please helpppp.
Thanks in advance
Thanks
askmeplz82 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:12 amThey asked for more evidenceFbiboy2002 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:54 pmHi
I would like to share my story it might be useful to anyone
I'm an Egyptian married to latvian woman we married in Egypt 2011 I came to England in March 2012 on family permit 6 months Visa I applied for residence card 4 month later
When you send Settled Status application they didn't ask for WIFE ID OR RESIDENCY DOCUMENTS ? And they gave you settled status without looking at EEA national evidence ? Is it because you already have NEW RC valid for 5 years and they only wanted to see your 5 years residency ?
Like proof of relationship and my wife ID and proof of her residency like p60 and bank statement or council tax and tenancy agreement of the past 5 years
I had only the marriage certificate and my daughter birth certificate nothing else
I don't know how they worked it out might be because my RC new and I have already sent them this evidence year ago!
But anyway I called the resolution centre while my application was still in progress and told them I can't give more evidence as my wife doesn't want to help () they said they will put that on the system for the caseworker and I got it
Rkohdi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:07 pmI applied for settle status with my current partner .but yesterday i got call from home office and they said that if i can provide them certificate from first marriage and divorce then i can get ILR ..i sent them yeterday documents and today i got email confirming my settled status as ILR.
...
I wanna ask
Is this same Ilr like other person getting after marriage to british ...and when i can apply for british citizen ?
Hi Kamoekamoe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:52 amI'd like to build a picture of how Settled and Pre-Settled status criteria is applied to non-EU family members of EU citizens. There has been a lot of speculation in different topics, regarding maximum waiting time, and what exactly counts towards the 5 years to be granted Settled Status.
Could any non-EU people having gone through the Settled Status application please share their outcome and circumstances as below?
For example, mine are:
Years in UK: 9.5
Years on EEA RC/FP: 3
Applied: 21.01.2019
Status offered: Settled
Outcome: Still waiting
Date of outcome: Still waiting
Nope. I'm more amused than anything else. I applied just for the sake of scientific curiosity to see what happened if I applied, in the remote hope that I would get Settled status by virtue of my being in the uK for over 9 years in different immigration categories. In theory, I should get Pre-Settled status as only 3 years on RC, but... for some reason they have decided my case needs to wait. Not planning on escalating it further as there is plenty of time and having a valid RC means I have no need for Pre-settled status anytime soon.
Same here, but as you can see that's not a guarantee of what outcome you will get and how long it will take.I have lived in the UK for almost 9 years and was told online that I will be considered for settled status.
In theory you will get Pre-settled status, in practice, the case worker might be smart and might advise to put your case on hold until you complete the 5 years, for the sake of giving you the Settled status straight away. That would be less hassle for everyone involved. But take this with a pinch of salt as this is only mu guess based on the fact that they have put my own application on hold.1)I have only completed 4 years 11 months as a family member of an EU national as per residence card issued in 2014 and got married in 2015, so will I get settled or pre settled status ?
yes. hence they might just wait for that date to give you a decision.2) will I be eligible for settled status on 2nd of May 2019 as I will complete 5 years on Residence card.
No. Clock starts when you first were issued a RC, not when you got married, so May 2014.3)Do I need to wait till 2020 to be eligible for settled status because I got married in 2015 and marriage date will be a start date for 5 years continuous residence and not the day when residence card was issued ?
Yes, you can apply for permanent residence when you are eligible. The two routes are not mutually exclusive.Lastly, after 5 years on residence card, in my case which will complete on (2nd of May 2019),can I still apply for permanent residence even though home office decided to give me pre settled status.
This does complicate things a bit. If it looks like you are not having a decision soon, then escalate to the HO (there is a convenient online form you can use to communicate with your case worker) your case and explain you really need your decision by May 2nd. They might be able to accommodate that.Reason why I am not waiting for 5 years to be completed on residence card is just because I am starting a new job on 3rd of May and my employer would need right to work proof. If I was working for the current employer, I would have given my application reference number so things are little bit complicated.
Thanks Kamoe for your swift response. Really appreciate that !! I will update as soon I hear anything which I doubt will be anytime soon by knowing it's home office.kamoe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:54 amNope. I'm more amused than anything else. I applied just for the sake of scientific curiosity to see what happened if I applied, in the remote hope that I would get Settled status by virtue of my being in the uK for over 9 years in different immigration categories. In theory, I should get Pre-Settled status as only 3 years on RC, but... for some reason they have decided my case needs to wait. Not planning on escalating it further as there is plenty of time and having a valid RC means I have no need for Pre-settled status anytime soon.
Same here, but as you can see that's not a guarantee of what outcome you will get and how long it will take.I have lived in the UK for almost 9 years and was told online that I will be considered for settled status.In theory you will get Pre-settled status, in practice, the case worker might be smart and might advise to put your case on hold until you complete the 5 years, for the sake of giving you the Settled status straight away. That would be less hassle for everyone involved. But take this with a pinch of salt as this is only mu guess based on the fact that they have put my own application on hold.1)I have only completed 4 years 11 months as a family member of an EU national as per residence card issued in 2014 and got married in 2015, so will I get settled or pre settled status ?yes. hence they might just wait for that date to give you a decision.2) will I be eligible for settled status on 2nd of May 2019 as I will complete 5 years on Residence card.No. Clock starts when you first were issued a RC, not when you got married, so May 2014.3)Do I need to wait till 2020 to be eligible for settled status because I got married in 2015 and marriage date will be a start date for 5 years continuous residence and not the day when residence card was issued ?Yes, you can apply for permanent residence when you are eligible. The two routes are not mutually exclusive.Lastly, after 5 years on residence card, in my case which will complete on (2nd of May 2019),can I still apply for permanent residence even though home office decided to give me pre settled status.This does complicate things a bit. If it looks like you are not having a decision soon, then escalate to the HO (there is a convenient online form you can use to communicate with your case worker) your case and explain you really need your decision by May 2nd. They might be able to accommodate that.Reason why I am not waiting for 5 years to be completed on residence card is just because I am starting a new job on 3rd of May and my employer would need right to work proof. If I was working for the current employer, I would have given my application reference number so things are little bit complicated.
I'm assuming we need to apply again, when we are eligible. I am also assuming this should be free, straightforward, and really quick.
As virtually no one is in that case yet (you might be probably the first person!) it's natural they have not published any information. But if it corresponds to my assumptions above, then it is not different than an ordinary application for Settled status, no need for making a special provision.I cannot find any guidance around that. It only says on gov.uk that you can change from pre settled to settled status when you complete five years, but no guidance or information around how it will done by an individual.
This would be wonderful, and will probably be the case when fresh applications for Settled and Pre-Settled status close in June 2021, and only conversion cases from Pre-Settled to Settled remain.For an e.g. apply online and select option as changing from pre settled to settled status
Yes. They are concerned by numbers they can show. Absolutely no clarity on what policies are applied for non-EU family members.I guess home office is more concerned about EU nationals at the moment hence why plenty of guidance available for them but less concerned about non eea national (third country). Its like shooting in the dark, and if you lucky, you might hit the target (settled status).
Yes, no harm in applying for PR, and it might as well be the only remaining option. Pfff.Thanks anyway. I think if they do decide to give me pre settled, I would apply for PR then because in that case atleast I will not be in limo and will apply for citizenship year after. I doubt UK is ever going to leave EU so they can't void EEA PR ROUTE !!
Further update on my application:kamoe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:30 pmI'm assuming we need to apply again, when we are eligible. I am also assuming this should be free, straightforward, and really quick.As virtually no one is in that case yet (you might be probably the first person!) it's natural they have not published any information. But if it corresponds to my assumptions above, then it is not different than an ordinary application for Settled status, no need for making a special provision.I cannot find any guidance around that. It only says on gov.uk that you can change from pre settled to settled status when you complete five years, but no guidance or information around how it will done by an individual.This would be wonderful, and will probably be the case when fresh applications for Settled and Pre-Settled status close in June 2021, and only conversion cases from Pre-Settled to Settled remain.For an e.g. apply online and select option as changing from pre settled to settled statusYes. They are concerned by numbers they can show. Absolutely no clarity on what policies are applied for non-EU family members.I guess home office is more concerned about EU nationals at the moment hence why plenty of guidance available for them but less concerned about non eea national (third country). Its like shooting in the dark, and if you lucky, you might hit the target (settled status).Yes, no harm in applying for PR, and it might as well be the only remaining option. Pfff.Thanks anyway. I think if they do decide to give me pre settled, I would apply for PR then because in that case atleast I will not be in limo and will apply for citizenship year after. I doubt UK is ever going to leave EU so they can't void EEA PR ROUTE !!
kamoe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:30 pmI'm assuming we need to apply again, when we are eligible. I am also assuming this should be free, straightforward, and really quick.As virtually no one is in that case yet (you might be probably the first person!) it's natural they have not published any information. But if it corresponds to my assumptions above, then it is not different than an ordinary application for Settled status, no need for making a special provision.I cannot find any guidance around that. It only says on gov.uk that you can change from pre settled to settled status when you complete five years, but no guidance or information around how it will done by an individual.This would be wonderful, and will probably be the case when fresh applications for Settled and Pre-Settled status close in June 2021, and only conversion cases from Pre-Settled to Settled remain.For an e.g. apply online and select option as changing from pre settled to settled statusYes. They are concerned by numbers they can show. Absolutely no clarity on what policies are applied for non-EU family members.I guess home office is more concerned about EU nationals at the moment hence why plenty of guidance available for them but less concerned about non eea national (third country). Its like shooting in the dark, and if you lucky, you might hit the target (settled status).Yes, no harm in applying for PR, and it might as well be the only remaining option. Pfff.Thanks anyway. I think if they do decide to give me pre settled, I would apply for PR then because in that case atleast I will not be in limo and will apply for citizenship year after. I doubt UK is ever going to leave EU so they can't void EEA PR ROUTE !!
If and when I hear anything regarding my application, obviously the very thing I'll do next is post it here.skasyap wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:44 amkamoe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:30 pmI'm assuming we need to apply again, when we are eligible. I am also assuming this should be free, straightforward, and really quick.As virtually no one is in that case yet (you might be probably the first person!) it's natural they have not published any information. But if it corresponds to my assumptions above, then it is not different than an ordinary application for Settled status, no need for making a special provision.I cannot find any guidance around that. It only says on gov.uk that you can change from pre settled to settled status when you complete five years, but no guidance or information around how it will done by an individual.This would be wonderful, and will probably be the case when fresh applications for Settled and Pre-Settled status close in June 2021, and only conversion cases from Pre-Settled to Settled remain.For an e.g. apply online and select option as changing from pre settled to settled statusYes. They are concerned by numbers they can show. Absolutely no clarity on what policies are applied for non-EU family members.I guess home office is more concerned about EU nationals at the moment hence why plenty of guidance available for them but less concerned about non eea national (third country). Its like shooting in the dark, and if you lucky, you might hit the target (settled status).Yes, no harm in applying for PR, and it might as well be the only remaining option. Pfff.Thanks anyway. I think if they do decide to give me pre settled, I would apply for PR then because in that case atleast I will not be in limo and will apply for citizenship year after. I doubt UK is ever going to leave EU so they can't void EEA PR ROUTE !!
Kamoe Have you still not heard anything regarding your application ?
I am still waiting for COA and status confirmation.
kamoe wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:20 amIf and when I hear anything regarding my application, obviously the very thing I'll do next is post it here.skasyap wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:44 amkamoe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:30 pmI'm assuming we need to apply again, when we are eligible. I am also assuming this should be free, straightforward, and really quick.As virtually no one is in that case yet (you might be probably the first person!) it's natural they have not published any information. But if it corresponds to my assumptions above, then it is not different than an ordinary application for Settled status, no need for making a special provision.I cannot find any guidance around that. It only says on gov.uk that you can change from pre settled to settled status when you complete five years, but no guidance or information around how it will done by an individual.This would be wonderful, and will probably be the case when fresh applications for Settled and Pre-Settled status close in June 2021, and only conversion cases from Pre-Settled to Settled remain.For an e.g. apply online and select option as changing from pre settled to settled statusYes. They are concerned by numbers they can show. Absolutely no clarity on what policies are applied for non-EU family members.I guess home office is more concerned about EU nationals at the moment hence why plenty of guidance available for them but less concerned about non eea national (third country). Its like shooting in the dark, and if you lucky, you might hit the target (settled status).Yes, no harm in applying for PR, and it might as well be the only remaining option. Pfff.Thanks anyway. I think if they do decide to give me pre settled, I would apply for PR then because in that case atleast I will not be in limo and will apply for citizenship year after. I doubt UK is ever going to leave EU so they can't void EEA PR ROUTE !!
Kamoe Have you still not heard anything regarding your application ?
I am still waiting for COA and status confirmation.
Yes, this seems to be the procedure, someone else in this thread also said they got this exact same phone interaction.Amirkhan042 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:38 amI have just received a call from home office saying that I am not eligible for settled status so we are offering you a pre settle status and I told them yeah I am okay with it... and after few hour I have received pre settled email confirmation... I think they will do the same with you as we were or are in the same boat!!! Please let me know if you guys need more details...
@Amirkhan - congrats fist of all !!Amirkhan042 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:38 amkamoe wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:20 amIf and when I hear anything regarding my application, obviously the very thing I'll do next is post it here.skasyap wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:44 amkamoe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:30 pm
I'm assuming we need to apply again, when we are eligible. I am also assuming this should be free, straightforward, and really quick.
As virtually no one is in that case yet (you might be probably the first person!) it's natural they have not published any information. But if it corresponds to my assumptions above, then it is not different than an ordinary application for Settled status, no need for making a special provision.
This would be wonderful, and will probably be the case when fresh applications for Settled and Pre-Settled status close in June 2021, and only conversion cases from Pre-Settled to Settled remain.
Yes. They are concerned by numbers they can show. Absolutely no clarity on what policies are applied for non-EU family members.
Yes, no harm in applying for PR, and it might as well be the only remaining option. Pfff.
Kamoe Have you still not heard anything regarding your application ?
I am still waiting for COA and status confirmation.
Hi Kamoe!
I have just received a call from home office saying that I am not eligible for settled status so we are offering you a pre settle status and I told them yeah I am okay with it... and after few hour I have received pre settled email confirmation... I think they will do the same with you as we were or are in the same boat!!! Please let me know if you guys need more details...
Hi! Thank you!skasyap wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:49 pm@Amirkhan - congrats fist of all !!Amirkhan042 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:38 am
Hi Kamoe!
I have just received a call from home office saying that I am not eligible for settled status so we are offering you a pre settle status and I told them yeah I am okay with it... and after few hour I have received pre settled email confirmation... I think they will do the same with you as we were or are in the same boat!!! Please let me know if you guys need more details...
1)when did you make your application and completed your biometric ?
2) How long you have had Residence Card for ?
3) Did you get COA after doing bio metrics or they provided status confirmation directly ?
hardeepsingh09 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:55 amSETTLED STATUS TIMELINE VIA EU CHECK ID APP
Non-EEA National with ROR (Retain Rights of Residence)
Application sent via APP/ONLINE using BRP CARD from ROR:17-04-2019
Payment taken: No Fee
Confirmation email: Immediately 17-04-2019
Certificate of application Received:17-04-2019 (pdf attached with email)
Passport received: not been asked to sent any yet
Supporting Documents: uploaded marriage cert + Divorce cert + 5year Tax returns (self empl) + Approval
letter from home office when I received BRP for my ROR.
PR received:
Hi, I divorced my wife and retained my rights last year. I was married in 2014 and yes its been total of 5years. During application they only asked for proof of relationship with the sponsor, hence uploaded my marriage and divorce certificate with 5year tax returns and approval letter from retained rights application. there is no update yet from home office I believe its due to Easter weekend.askmeplz82 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:27 amhardeepsingh09 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:55 amSETTLED STATUS TIMELINE VIA EU CHECK ID APP
Non-EEA National with ROR (Retain Rights of Residence)
Application sent via APP/ONLINE using BRP CARD from ROR:17-04-2019
Payment taken: No Fee
Confirmation email: Immediately 17-04-2019
Certificate of application Received:17-04-2019 (pdf attached with email)
Passport received: not been asked to sent any yet
Supporting Documents: uploaded marriage cert + Divorce cert + 5year Tax returns (self empl) + Approval
letter from home office when I received BRP for my ROR.
PR received:
Hey when did you divorce your wife . is it more than 5 years? If not then it's very interesting HOME OFFICE didn't ask for EEA national documents ( residency proof )