Spouse Visa - 2nd Marriage scenario

[hamakhaa]

Hello everyone,
I am preparing to apply for spouse visa next month.I am facing issues with regards to getting permission/noc letter from my landlord.

I have just (from 2nd March) rented out a two bed flat. I requested the landlord to provide permission/noc letter for my wife visa but she have refused it because she thinks she cannot provide any reference as I have just rented out and they only provide reference to people who are there for more than 2 years.

I tried to convince her that I am not looking for reference rather a permission.

Now I am in a difficult situation where I am bound to 6 months tenancy agreeement and at the same time I am not able to get the consent letter.

Is tenancy agreement and inspection reports, bills, council tax docs are not enough? Has anyone applied without the landlord letter and have managed to have a succesful spouse visa application?

Can you please advise what options do I have now? Seems like I am now in a catch 22 situation where I am stuck for few months until this contract ends .

Regards,
Hammad.

[seagul]

Unless the tenancy agreement is in joint names the landlord/estate agent letter is mandatory. In my view the landlord is talking about referencing & right of rent check which is indeed very imperative in private renting. Usually before taking any property the person must tell the inner objective too to the landlord & estate agency. Without getting noc preferably don't apply.

[hamakhaa]

I did tell the estate agent my intention. Unfortunately landlord is now not cooperative.

I will try to talk to convnce landlord but if not what options do I have?

[seagul]

I did tell the estate agent my intention. Unfortunately landlord is now not cooperative.

I will try to talk to convnce landlord but if not what options do I have?

Try to convince him/her to get that important piece of document. You can even tell him/her to give you a noc letter stating that your partner can live there upon successfully getting the visa. By that way landlord might be satisfied due to be secured.

[hamakhaa]

Yes that's what I am trying to do i.e. convince the landlord.

I am planning to provide the following link to explain why the letter from landlord is required:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ion-maa--2

Particularly pointing out at MAA6 and MAA11.

Do you think this is enough? Is there anything else I can provide to convince? Please suggest.

Thanks,
Hammad.

[seagul]

Yes that's what I am trying to do i.e. convince the landlord.

I am planning to provide the following link to explain why the letter from landlord is required:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ion-maa--2

Particularly pointing out at MAA6 and MAA11.

Do you think this is enough? Is there anything else I can provide to convince? Please suggest.

Thanks,
Hammad.

yes you can but also explain him that 2 bed flat is more than enough for a couple. Also explain him that he can just give you a noc letter with the condition of getting visa that will secure him. In last also suggest him to feel your problem if he is/will be in your situation.

[hamakhaa]

Thanks seagul.

I will include all your suggestions. Your advice is much appreciated.

Thanks,
Hammad

[hamakhaa]

Hello everyone,
I am planning to apply for my wife's settlement visa and have this scenario:

I first got married in Pakistan in 2010 that ended in 2012, I have divorce certificate dated 2013. I have child from my first marriage who stays outside of UK with my ex wife.

My current wife also got divorced in the past, she also have a divorce certificate.

We got married in 2016 and have marriage certificate from Nadra .

The question is, is there anything else I need to mention (may be in cover letter) or provide (as documentation) as part of my situation apart from 2 divorce certificates(one from my first marriage and another from my wife's first marriage) and a marriage certificate?

Please suggest if there are any implications based on the situation above.

Regards,
Hamakhaa

[hamakhaa]

Hello everyone,
I am about to apply for my wife settlement visa.

As part of relationship proof I am providing wtsapp chat. I have like 150+ pages of chat. Wondering if this is a bit too much?

What is the best way to provide the chat. Is it ok if I provide some chat from each week?

Please suggest the best approach?

Regards,
Hammad.

[hamakhaa]

Can anyone please advice with the below mentioned scenario. Has anyone experienced similar in the past?

Hello everyone,
I am planning to apply for my wife's settlement visa and have this scenario:

I first got married in Pakistan in 2010 that ended in 2012, I have divorce certificate dated 2013. I have child from my first marriage who stays outside of UK with my ex wife.

My current wife also got divorced in the past, she also have a divorce certificate.

We got married in 2016 and have marriage certificate from Nadra .

The question is, is there anything else I need to mention (may be in cover letter) or provide (as documentation) as part of my situation apart from 2 divorce certificates(one from my first marriage and another from my wife's first marriage) and a marriage certificate?

Please suggest if there are any implications based on the situation above.

Regards,
Hamakhaa

[CR001]

You only need the divorce certificates for both of you to prove you were BOTH free to marry. Hopefully both divorce certificates are dated BEFORE your current wedding date.

[hamakhaa]

Thanks CR001.

Yes we do have divorce certificates dated long before our marriage.

For my child from my first child if I say that I am not responsible for his expenses, is that going to be a problem? If I say yes I am responsible for expenses do I need to provide any evidence?

[hamakhaa]

Any suggestions on this please? What is the best way to organise the chat history/log?

Hello everyone,
I am about to apply for my wife settlement visa.

As part of relationship proof I am providing wtsapp chat. I have like 150+ pages of chat. Wondering if this is a bit too much?

What is the best way to provide the chat. Is it ok if I provide some chat from each week?

Please suggest the best approach?

Regards,
Hammad.

[hamakhaa]

Seagul, do you know if there is a 28 day rule for landlord letter? I am assuming it is only the financial docs for which the 28 days rule applies?

Regards,
Hammad.

Thanks seagul.

I will include all your suggestions. Your advice is much appreciated.

Thanks,
Hammad

[seagul]

Seagul, do you know if there is a 28 day rule for landlord letter? I am assuming it is only the financial docs for which the 28 days rule applies?

Regards,
Hammad.

Thanks seagul.

I will include all your suggestions. Your advice is much appreciated.

Thanks,
Hammad

As a precaution try to not let it be older than 28 days from the date of application.

[hamakhaa]

Is online application submission considered to be the date of application?

Seagul, do you know if there is a 28 day rule for landlord letter? I am assuming it is only the financial docs for which the 28 days rule applies?

Regards,
Hammad.

Thanks seagul.

I will include all your suggestions. Your advice is much appreciated.

Thanks,
Hammad

As a precaution try to not let it be older than 28 days from the date of application.

[seagul]

Is online application submission considered to be the date of application?

Seagul, do you know if there is a 28 day rule for landlord letter? I am assuming it is only the financial docs for which the 28 days rule applies?

Regards,
Hammad.

Thanks seagul.

I will include all your suggestions. Your advice is much appreciated.

Thanks,
Hammad

As a precaution try to not let it be older than 28 days from the date of application.

Yes

[hamakhaa]

I have made a second attempt to convince my landlord with no luck.

I have explained everything with all that we have discussed on this forum. Provided with an example letter etc but the landlord say they do not want to get involved in my personal matters.

I am not sure why the landlord is behaving like this. I am getting really depressed due to this situation. Please suggest what should I do as an alternative?

Also do you know if home office contacts the landlord usually for verification?

[seagul]

. Please suggest what should I do as an alternative?

I m afraid but there is no alternative to landlord/estate agent noc letter if the tenancy agreement is not in joint name. However, if you have any close friend or relative who has sufficient accomodation to accomodate you & your family by giving all required documents such as mortgage statement, title deed and noc letter then it may work too.

[hamakhaa]

Thanks Seagul for your response.

If I arrange accommodation with my friend/relative do I also need docs like bills,council tax on my name. Are they mandatory?

Do you know if homeoffice contacts the landlord for verification?

Regards,
Hammad.

. Please suggest what should I do as an alternative?

I m afraid but there is no alternative to landlord/estate agent noc letter if the tenancy agreement is not in joint name. However, if you have any close friend or relative who has sufficient accomodation to accomodate you & your family by giving all required documents such as mortgage statement, title deed and noc letter then it may work too.

[seagul]

Thanks Seagul for your response.

If I arrange accommodation with my friend/relative do I also need docs like bills,council tax on my name. Are they mandatory?

Do you know if homeoffice contacts the landlord for verification?

Regards,
Hammad.

. Please suggest what should I do as an alternative?

I m afraid but there is no alternative to landlord/estate agent noc letter if the tenancy agreement is not in joint name. However, if you have any close friend or relative who has sufficient accomodation to accomodate you & your family by giving all required documents such as mortgage statement, title deed and noc letter then it may work too.

No bills are not mandatory to be in your name but your friend/relative must be ready to give you noc letter and his/her mortgage statement & title deed.
Yes HO most often carry out these verifications, so be honest.

[hamakhaa]

Seagul, one of my friend might be happy to provide these, the questions are:

1. What will be the content of the noc letter. If it says that me and my wife is there for few months before we buy a house, is that ok? Not sure how to phrase this. Is there an example letter I can use for this scenario please?
2. My payslip would have my address in Manchester whereas my friends lives near Birmingham, is that going to create doubts? Similarly my bank statement will have my manchester address?
3. The mortgage statement is it going to be the latest one with newer than 28 days?

Thanks,
Hammad.

[seagul]

Seagul, one of my friend might be happy to provide these, the questions are:

1. What will be the content of the noc letter. If it says that me and my wife is there for few months before we buy a house, is that ok? Not sure how to phrase this. Is there an example letter I can use for this scenario please?
2. My payslip would have my address in Manchester whereas my friends lives near Birmingham, is that going to create doubts? Similarly my bank statement will have my manchester address?
3. The mortgage statement is it going to be the latest one with newer than 28 days?

Thanks,
Hammad.

1. Noc letter can be just basic as few sentences but clearly allowing you & your partner to stay there with a brief house plan. No need need to mention future housing plan.
2. Address won't be a big issue because at first stage of application there is no need of cohabitation proofs. But still if your work location is quite far than your accomodation then it will definitely trigger doubts. Maybe by justifying as how can you travel in between different cities might work.
3. Preferably yes

[hamakhaa]

Hello there,
My employer pay salary for each month on 15th. For e.g. for the month of April (1st to 30th April) they have paid on 15th April. Same is the case for all 6 months. In other words they pay in advance.

I will be submitting the payslips for last 6 months from November to April, the questions is do I need to submit bank statements from 1st November to 30th April or until 15th April is fine? This is because the last salary is transferred on 15th April therefore there is nothing to show from the bank statement after 15th April.

Any suggestions?

[seagul]

Hello there,
My employer pay salary for each month on 15th. For e.g. for the month of April (1st to 30th April) they have paid on 15th April. Same is the case for all 6 months. In other words they pay in advance.

very normal practice

I will be submitting the payslips for last 6 months from November to April, the questions is do I need to submit bank statements from 1st November to 30th April or until 15th April is fine? This is because the last salary is transferred on 15th April therefore there is nothing to show from the bank statement after 15th April.

Any suggestions?

You can use date duration calculator to make sure that your latest bank statement & payslip is not older than 28 days from the date of application (which is when you submit online) and must cover at least last 6 months.