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After getting married in Romania, she applies for an EEA Family Permit (valid 6 months) at the UK Embassy.Epsilonn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:40 amHello, my name is Nick and I am following up on some of my old threads / posts on this forum. So, I am a Romanian citizen and, at the moment, I am working in The UK.
My girlfriend and fiancée, who is from Syria, finally got her ID and passport for international protection in Romania (same rights as refugees) after she applied recently, while on visit visa in Romania, both valid for 2 years. Now she lives in my aunt's apartment, waiting for documents and for my next visit to Romania.
Now we can finally get married (still waiting for the passport at the moment though) as, before changing her status to refugee, we needed her letter of no impediment. This letter of no impediment was impossible to get due to religious restrictions and the only way to get it from the Embassy was to first come from Syria... In Syria, the Internal Affairs could not accept me being Christian and her being Muslim (she is only Muslim in documents btw.). The only way was for me to convert to Islam... or for her to apply for asylum, which needed to happen considering what is going on in Syria.
I am sorry for the long introduction. Basically, I want her in The UK, legally, with me so I have a few questions and maybe you have more experience:
1. After we get married in Romania, she gets a 1 year stay there and we get the opportunity to apply for a 5 years permit which will make us, as a family, look stronger in front of The UK authorities (because applying for that permit in Romania requires 3 months of checks from authorities, interviews to point out we are actually a family and we don't bend immigration rules, which we don't...) when we want to apply for the EEA family permit in The UK.
Should we go this way? Will she be required to go to The UK Embassy in Romania when we apply for this? I don't prefer this way as we have known each other for over two years and have visited each other in the past in Beirut until I got her to stay in Romania. All I want is to be married to her, which I can now, as well as her next to me, in The UK - on this we are working at the moment.
2. What if I apply for a fiancee visa in The UK? But she has refugee status in Romania... would this work?
3. Should we just get married in Romania and then bring her in The UK without applying for the 5 years permit in Romania first? This would be the option I prefer...
What do you think? I have asked many questions on this forum and I also found helpful replies and we took it step by step. What do you think the best option would be?
4. P.S. How do you think Brexit is going to affect our situation in the following year?
Many thanks and I look forward to your replies,
Nick
You want to apply for a Residence Card for family members of EEA nationals in Romania, as in for living in Romania? Why? How, if you are not actually living there? The only way you could apply in Romania under EU rules is under the Surinder Singh regulations but that would require your spouse to have previously lived with you in an EU country other than Romania and then RETURN there to live, so I don't see how this is applicable to your situation.Epsilonn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:50 amHi ALKB, it sounds amazing what you say but... do you think that not having that resident card (article 10 card) from RO will affect our application for the EEA permit? As this is in fact what we want to do.
Because I imagine we can get that 5 years residence card from RO too... and the rest I wrote in this topic.
I want to bring her in The UK without the authorities thinking this is a 'convenience marriage'... you understand what I mean.
But, assuming all is good with the EEA permit, in the UK we will apply for that residence card or article 10 card the same way as we would apply in Romania? That I don't know. And to get that residence card we need to pass interviews here and authorities will perform check on us?... because I am very ok with that as long as we are in The UK and I work... But I don't know these things... can you please help me on this?
No. If it were, it would be valid for 5 years.
Only to fly to the UK, or just possibly for a less direct ferry route.
See answers above.Epsilonn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:19 am3. Online if I check 'entering the UK with the article 10 card' makes me confused as it makes me believe (I will give an example here based on what I read online) that if, for example, my wife would have gotten her residence card issued by another member state (like Germany etc...), other than the one of my nationality (Romania), then we had had no need for the EEA Family Permit... So basically it makes me believe that because I am from Romania and my wife has her residence card issued in Romania, we NEED to apply for EEA Family Permit to enter The UK together (I will accompany her anyway). Can someone please clarify?
I am not a qualified advisor and should take my words as such. I have lived in both Romania and UK.Epsilonn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:15 amThank you for the answers. But she is not my fiancee! We are married now. I got a bit confused I am sorry... why would we need a train from Bucharest to London? Or to go to Hungary?
So... we have her passport granting refugee status in Romania, we have a residence card for Romania as family member of EU citizen, her Syrian passport is with the police because we want to keep that protection status.
We applied for EEA Family Permit and now we wait to go to that TLSContact center in Romania for the appointment.
Online when we made the application there is no way to 'tell' the application that she is refugee so I made a note there. That is because they were asking for Syrian passport! So I need to know if her International Protection passport is ok for the passport when we go to that appointment.
And we want to fly to The UK when the time comes. Why would we go to Hungary and take a weird route? Please help understand.
Thank you,
Nick
Bucharest to Calais is a long way to walk. If you try flying without an EEA family permit, your wife is very likely not to be allowed onto the plane.
Politely insist that TLSContact accept that travel document; remind them that it is the place of UKVI to reject that document if it is not adequate. You can possibly add that such documents can be acceptable under Schengen rules, which implement the same EU law. Note that ethnic Russians living in Lithuania who are not Lithuanian citizens get Lithuanian aliens' passports and that these passports are acceptable. I fear UKVI may take a long time to make a decision - your wife's case may be referred to a senior caseworker for a decision, and some of them may be very busy with the EU settlement scheme, where seemingly complicated cases (> 5 years residence, but not clearly qualifying for ILR) are being dealt with slowly, if at all.