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To Masoud: have a look.masoud62 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:15 pmDoes anyone have seen caseworker guidance for how to process paper application for eu settlement scheme under surinder Singh route?
I think there should be guidance on HO website if paper application are ready.
I wait till end of next week if no paper application I apply for permanent residence card, I dont think eu settlement application for surinder singh is easier or less pages than PR application.
My point was that I did not see even mentioning this category under "surinder singh". It probably means that it's not ready yet.
That is for residence card not eu settlement schemeJAMAA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:37 amdear Masoud 62
please see the link
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... .0-ext.pdf
free movement rights for family members of British Citizen
Correct , Surinder Singh was not covered under the withdrawal agreement but it is government policy that it is covered under the EU settlement scheme. Unlike the EEA free movement for EEA/Swiss nationals, ‘continuous residence’ under the EUSS is defined as ‘presence’ in the UK, as opposed to requiring the exercise of treaty rights through employment, self-employment, studies and self-sufficiency.
Sorry PLUZZ just seeing this now, my wife was called directly and was asked to confirm details already logged with them and that her application will be sent out within the next week or so.
You post is total rubbishJAMAA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:08 amHI
There are two types of family members of British citizens for Surinder Singh :-
1- Family Members granted RC that mean passed the test of the Home Office that mean passing the PR when completing 5 years residence (with or without may be any economic activities or exercising treaty).
2- Family Member Of British Citizens without RC claiming Surinder Singh cases need to prove to the Home Office that all criteria met (4 criteria) they need to pass the Home Office exams if they pass the exam of surinder singh that mean they will pass PR if not passing that mean you are not included in this category of Surinder Singh you are not passed the criteria so you are not treated like EU citizen.
I requested the form on 31st Mar. And first they told me I will receive it in 2-3 working days! After that 10 working days and now they sayPLUZZ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:28 amSame here too. I spoke to the resolution centre several times this week and it was all a waste of effort. At one time, I was told that my request has been escalated to their quality management team, and that someone from the management team would call me back within 2 working days. But alas, no call back! I then rang again, and demanded to speak to someone within the Surinder Singh team. I was passed to a guy who introduced himself as one of the quality management staff within the Surinder Singh team. The guy took my details and put me on hold to check my details, and then came back to advise that nothing has been sent out to me, and that he couldn't advise a time-frame when the form would be received. I asked why so much fuss over an ordinary form, and he explained that the team need to check and make sure that each person who requested paper application form is eligible to apply in the surinder singh category, hence why it is taking so long to send out the form to each requester. I believe the excuse provided by the guy is bullshit, and I found it unfathomable. My request for the paper application form was around 9.30am on 30th January when the scheme fully opened and I am sure I must have been one of the first 10 people who requested the form. Even staff from the resolution centre confirmed that I am among the first few people to have requested the form as soon as the scheme opened to the public. If therefore I am among the first 10 people to have requested the form, are you telling me that the surinder singh team have not been able to ascertain the eligibility of those first 10 people from their records within 2 weeks of the scheme opening? Even if they only have 2 members of staff dealing with applications in that team, they should have done all necessary checks on more than 10 people by now since the opening of the scheme!ellyell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:29 pmIt has been 10 working days since I requested paper form and still have not received it. I have called resolution center this afternoon and the lady i talked to advised me to wait until Monday afternoon and call back again if still not arrived.
Problem is that it is not possible to talk those guys who deal with Surinder Sing cases/paper application process. I asked her if she is able to see if the form has been sent if not when it will be sent but she could not see this and could not advise.
Absolute nightmare, what can I say.
Personally, I believe there is a hideous reason for this whole delay for surinder singhers.....there is definitely something the home office is not telling us. Firstly, guidance released towards the end of the piloting phases specifically mentioned that all categories, including surinder singhers will be able to submit their applications through the infamous online process. The only exception to this will be Zambrano cases, where a paper application is required and the scheme is not open to them till 1st May. There was nowhere in that initial guidance where it was mentioned that surinder singhers will also need to apply using a paper form. Then came the time when the scheme fully opened, look whats happened.......alas, even the paper application forms are not yet available after 2 weeks since the scheme started! I am inclined to believe this is a delay tactic on purpose, designed to exclude surinder singhers from the process, although whatever the motivation for it, I am not sure. I find it particularly out of character for a government body of such high repute as the Home Office, to promise applicants that an application form will be recieved wihin 10 working days, and then fail on that promise! Something just doesn't add up!
YOU ARE RIGHTellyell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:20 amIf your family member is a British citizen (‘Surinder Singh’ applications)
You may be eligible if you lived outside the UK in an EU or EEA country (or Switzerland) with your family member, and you’re:
married to or in a civil partnership with them
under 21 years old, and are their child or grandchild
21 years or older, and are their dependent child or grandchild
their dependent parent or grandparent
The country that you lived in together must have been your main residence. Your British family member must also have been working, studying or self-sufficient in the country while there.
You cannot use the online service to apply if this is how you qualify for the scheme - you’ll need to use a paper form instead.
Request a paper form to apply to the EU Settlement Scheme.
@masoud62 Please post with respect to other members.masoud62 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:17 amYou post is total rubbishJAMAA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:08 amHI
There are two types of family members of British citizens for Surinder Singh :-
1- Family Members granted RC that mean passed the test of the Home Office that mean passing the PR when completing 5 years residence (with or without may be any economic activities or exercising treaty).
2- Family Member Of British Citizens without RC claiming Surinder Singh cases need to prove to the Home Office that all criteria met (4 criteria) they need to pass the Home Office exams if they pass the exam of surinder singh that mean they will pass PR if not passing that mean you are not included in this category of Surinder Singh you are not passed the criteria so you are not treated like EU citizen.