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FBR is only for grandparents/great-grandparents (if applicable) applications -- anyone with a parent born in Ireland is automatically a citizen and goes straight for the passport stage!
You can fill it in, but you can't send it off without your FBR certificate. My FBR certificate arrived with a passport application form included, but I also got one posted to me separately because I'd requested it by filling out the short form on the dfa website - are you sure you haven't done this?
Nic123 & Ricky7384,
I hadn’t requested it. I wonder if it means my citizenship is imminent???BrexitEscapee wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:30 pmYou can fill it in, but you can't send it off without your FBR certificate. My FBR certificate arrived with a passport application form included, but I also got one posted to me separately because I'd requested it by filling out the short form on the dfa website - are you sure you haven't done this?
Still here Jaxx and I'll probaly be on here for a long while yet ,Jaxx22 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:05 pmThat is apart from the passport, other documents should be originals or copies obtained from GRO (sorry I think of those as originals too) but not photocopies I believe - I could be wrong and someone please correct me if so.
I wonder if the person who did actually send their actual passport managed to change it for a copy? Are they still posting?
You can apply for the FBR through the grandparent route OR through a parent who is an Irish citizen, but was not born on the island of Ireland. I have applied on behalf of my children to enter them on the FBR and had to send in my own, 30 year old, FBR certificate. No lamination on that one.
Brawnbrawn401 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:32 pm
As I mentioned, I went to Liverpool’s passport express last Wednesday to hand in my passport application. It has now appeared in the DFA Passport tracker with an estimated issue date of the 25th May. If the timeline is to be believed it seems like a very worthwhile thing to do in taking it to Passport Express!
Michael--My children are a couple of weeks ahead of you. FBR app received in Dublin on August 9th....still nothingMichael123 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:54 amToday, 8 months.
Sulla, I aggree. I think the realistic stat would be 8 % or maybe even 88 weeks of waiting. Lol
...so we are almost at 9 monthsGreat news, not far behind and it confirms they are working through July.ricky7384 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:22 pmSpoke to DFA on the phone yesterday they informed me that I'm now an Irish citizen. They said my certificate will be printed and arrive within a few weeks.
Application received: 6th July 2018
Application sent for final approval: 21st November 2018
Told I'm Irish citizen over phone :2nd May 2019 (almost 10 months)
Received certificate and documents:TBD
I will update when certificate arrives.
Hi all,Quondam wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 11:27 amI applied for FBR in December through the New Zealand Irish consulate, they informed me that my application is processed in New Zealand and only sent to Ireland for printing but the processing time as of January is still the advised 6 to 12 months.
After reading the forums it seems everyone’s application is sent directly to Ireland, does anyone know if there are exceptions to this? Just trying to get some clarity about where my application is.
Also are the change of requirements for the application applied to older applications? I’ve supplied extra photos without being prompted to, but do not have the same witness for all documents, and they also only have copies not originals.
Any information would be great, it’s comforting to know others are on a similar journey.
Sulla wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 12:10 pmHaving read Tomriddle's post above and checking the Embassy website in the UK, it does seem like using Passport Express from the UK is not viable for 1st time applicants - or it may just amount to a fast postal service rather than any form of real processing expedition. From previous reading of other's posts, I had formed the impression that the express service had worked out well for applicants from the UK. I guess the experience of Brawn and others will give us a definitive answer.
I used the Glasgow Passport Express Service, and I received my passport in around 15 working days following submitting my application.
I received my passport on 27th April, after only submitting my application in early April.
For passport processing times, (excluding delivery time) there is a bit of variation depending on where you apply from. I have put together (in no particular order) a selection of estimated processing times relevant to 1st time applicants abroad:
UK: 13 weeks minimum (65 working days)
China: 6-8 weeks (this used to be 6 when I applied, went up to 8 briefly and is now in a range)
Thailand: Not stated, but likely to be similar to or worse than Malaysia/Spain due to expat population.
Sweden: 6 weeks
Finland: 6 weeks
Switzerland: 6 weeks
Turkey: 5 weeks
USA : 8 weeks
New Zealand: 10-12 weeks
Australia: Not stated, but likely to be similar to NZ or Canada.
Canada: 12 weeks
Malta: 4-6 weeks
Singapore: 6-8 weeks
Malaysia: 6-8 weeks
India: 4-6 weeks
Spain: 8-9 weeks
South Africa: 8 weeks
So, it seems the Maltese and Indian applicants may be faring best, although potentially Turkey could also be quickest. Of course, whether actual processing times conform to these estimates is another matter. They are updated fairly regularly though.
Thanks for clearing that up. That was my previous understanding of the situation. However, what TomRiddle had to say runs counter to that. I had no passport express service available to me in the location I used to apply and thus no direct experience of using it. The applicable DFA websites are unclear on this point. The UK embassy website does not specifically say that 1st time adult applicants can use the express service.The sites of other missions all definitely say that any form of expedition of 1st time adult applications is not possible.Celtic1967 wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 11:03 amI used the Glasgow Passport Express Service, and I received my passport in around 15 working days following submitting my application.
Tomtomriddle2u wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:43 pmFirst-time poster here, so for your first time Irish Passport application even submitting it via Passport Express in that post office in Liverpool the turn around time will be a minimum of 65 working days, the extra payment for that "express service" is just a postal charge. This type of service is only beneficial when you're renewing your Irish Passport and not a first-time applicant.
Also Lee regarding your passport that you submitted with your FBR application, the best thing for you to do is call and request it back. I'm pretty sure those emails won't be looked at.
I submitted my passport application at the start of April via the Express Service in Glasgow.tomriddle2u wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 1:50 pmI'm 100% sure as of the last few months, even if submitting at London counter or via passport express in Glasgow or Liverpool offices would be a min of 65 working days, and as it is coming into the summer months I would expect that to go outwards past 70 working days, priority is given to renewals as it considers most first time applicants from GB would have a UK Passport to travel on while waiting for the Irish Passport to be issued.
As long as your grandfather was born on the island of Ireland prior to 2005 then there will not be a problem. For the purposes of the nationality law of the Republic of Ireland, the section of the island currently administered by the U.K. authorities (Northern Ireland), is considered to be a part of the island of Ireland. Therefore, it does not matter whether your grandfather was born in Belfast or Cork - as long as he was born there before 2005, then he was automatically Irish at birth.LesMalouinettes wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 10:48 pmMy Grandfather was born in Belfast, NI and I am claiming citizenship by descent. Is anyone in this situation like I am? I'm worried everything will have been for nothing. I was always under the impression that for the purposes of immigration and because of the Good Friday agreement, Eire was considered the one landmass and it didn't matter whether you were born in NI or the republic?
