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Hexy
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by Hexy » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:41 pm
I have read a ton of threads regarding short stay/ tourist visas and people over staying their times on their visas. Now ok you like living on the edge. I for one can not do that and have always abided by the rules and laws concerning my visits with my fiance. I actually had very good reasons for returning back to the US as did my fiance. So for over 6 years we do the pond jump back and forth when we can.
OK that said, my observations from going to other countries is that I might not get a stamp in my passport, but my passport is always swiped. That is an electronic stamp. Just because you can show your passport as stamp free does not mean that its not being monitored.
So anyone over staying their visa and hops countries should be very wary that just because there is no ink on the page, doesn't mean that your travels are not being watched.
Now the big question is this. Does this program used to read a passport after swiping automatically flag someone as over staying? Really quite interesting to hear from anyone that has been haulted and put on a plane back to their homeland.
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Aplmac
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by Aplmac » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:19 pm
Back in Nov.07 I went thru Trinidad using my new machine-readable British/EU passport.
Trinidad Immigration raised the lid on a lil black box machine
stuck in the machine-readable page with all BigBrother's fancy symbols and hieroglyphics
closed the lid for a few secs while BigBro. did his thing
and I was cool to go.
Encased in plastic on the reverse of the machine-readable page is a small micro-chip
with a long thin wire coiled around and around the chip
-a fairly obvious aerial for getting info-data to/from the storage chip.
I can't say this with any certainty
but it's also fairly obvious that the precise circumstances of my travel into and out of Trinidad
are now imprinted on that chip - place,date and time of presentation
and the same data is now in BigBro's database in Brussels(or somewhere).
Any Immigration or Security Authority in any country globally
will be able to access my travel history (once he has BigBro's little black box
which in all likelihood is already in place!)
Stamps in ink are no longer necessary, even though you might get one here and there.
Eventually, all passports from all countries will be like this
and no-one will be able to fool BigBro.
so you'd better get your shirt together and keep your nose clean!
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Hexy
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by Hexy » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:51 am
LOL! My nose is very clean. Im to afraid of medievil dungeons with hanging cages to break any travel laws. I was just making more of an observation for those people who on other threads say, well I went here and didnt get a stamp, thus I wasnt there at all.
BIG
BROTHER
SEES
ALL!
My passport isn't chipped yet. I still am able to use my new/old one. I dont get the black box treatment.. I get the swipe like a credit card option. Still the data is in "the system" of my travels.
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by INSIDER » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:01 pm
Aplmac,
I'M afraid your imagination is doing some overtime.
Passports are swiped for identification purposes and validity.
No record is kept of travel history, to do so with other jurisdictions
like Trinidad would be a breach of the DPA(DATA PROTECTION ACT)
In addition,such info would be far from reliable as there are circumstances in which a passport can be swiped without the owner
having left the country.
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by Aplmac » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:31 am
If you think BigBro. isn't keeping track of your travel stuff
I find you naive!
My chipped Brit/EU passport was issued Sept. 2007, so it is fairly new tech stuff.
It wasn't swiped like a credit card, it was read in a machine.
Believe what you like - I prefer to think they know exactly where and when I move
once I move with that chipped passport.
Luckily I have a second passport, probably not so traceable!
Good luck going into the future!
Your next passport just might be a surgically-implanted chip somewhere in your body
...if not for me and you, certainly for our grand-children or their children.
People Kontrol isn't getting any more lax - quite the opposite.
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Hexy
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by Hexy » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:17 am
I don't know if Im allowed to post a link so if Im a bad girl Im sorry and just remove this post. If not .. there here is a dated, but good read about your little RFID chip in your passport.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/13/pf/rfid_passports/
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by Aplmac » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:58 pm
Very interesting! -thanks.
The date on that Money.CNN article was July 13
2006 -2 years ago..
Now I need a special(lead-lined?) bag or pouch to put my passport in
so no-one can transmit in or out until I get to the Immigration Desk
or any other place where I need to produce it.
Sheesh...here I was worried about
Big Brother..
turns out
Bad Brother is even worse!!
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Hexy
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by Hexy » Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:49 am
Im still waiting to hear a saga of someone getting stopped at a border crossing and being turned back or something dramatic. Geez someone out there fess up and make me just
at the screen. Or is all this just smoke and mirrors just to make us all do the passport check conga line?
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by Ben » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:00 pm
Aplmac wrote:If you think BigBro. isn't keeping track of your travel stuff
I find you naive!
My chipped Brit/EU passport was issued Sept. 2007, so it is fairly new tech stuff.
It wasn't swiped like a credit card, it was read in a machine.
Believe what you like - I prefer to think they know exactly where and when I move
once I move with that chipped passport.
Luckily I have a second passport, probably not so traceable!
Good luck going into the future!
Your next passport just might be a surgically-implanted chip somewhere in your body
...if not for me and you, certainly for our grand-children or their children.
People Kontrol isn't getting any more lax - quite the opposite.
Are you for real?
lol - going on then, you keep on preferring to think whatever you like mate, the rest of the world will stick to the facts.
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by Aplmac » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:54 am
benifa wrote:Are you for real?
lol - going on then, you keep on preferring to think whatever you like mate,
the rest of the world will stick to the facts. ===> or the Mellow propaganda they want you to think?
How old/young are you, benifa?
Under 40?
I'm in my fifty-ninth year,sonny.
How old are you benifa? How
young are you? seriously.
Let's have your date of birth.
Ever heard of
Carnivore?