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The most recent pages of the topic, page 100 onwards, are applications from this year!!The link you provided directs to a post that is about 2 years old.
We do not need yet another 'all who applied....timeline' topic please.I applied in one of the last days when the visa was still open and could be applied. I'm mainly targeting people who applied visa just before it was about to close.
argnihd13 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:12 pmHello everyone,
---- Tier 1 Entrepreneur -----
---- Initial Application 50k ---
---- Normal, Outside UK ------
So here's my Tier 1 Entrepreneur timeline
Submitted: 27/03/2019
Received at Sheffied: 05/04/2019
Complex letter: 18/04/2019
(1st) First Interview: 07/07/2019
(2nd) Second Interview: 20/07/2019
(3rd) Third Interview: 16/09/2019
Application Refused: 04/11/2019
First AR 1 Filed: 25/11/2019
First AR 1 Successful Email - Sent for Reassessment: 18/12/2019
Application Refused Again: 21/12/2019
Second AR 2 Filed: 16/01/2020
Passport Request via VFS Phone Call
So Neither me nor my Solicitor got an email for successful Second AR but suddenly i got a call from VFS saying the British High Commission has asked me to re submit my passport.
I'm confused since they send an email for AR decision before they request the passport?
What does this mean? Is the application approved and they want to stamp the visa or why do they even need my passport for?
Any suggestion would be helpful.
Thanks
argnihd13 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:53 amSo today the VFS returned my Passport as it is, without any refusal letter, no visa stamp. Quite confused on what was the purpose of asking me to submit my passport at the first place. @zimba Any suggestion would be appreciated..
argnihd13 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:12 pmHello everyone,
---- Tier 1 Entrepreneur -----
---- Initial Application 50k ---
---- Normal, Outside UK ------
So here's my Tier 1 Entrepreneur timeline
Submitted: 27/03/2019
Received at Sheffied: 05/04/2019
Complex letter: 18/04/2019
(1st) First Interview: 07/07/2019
(2nd) Second Interview: 20/07/2019
(3rd) Third Interview: 16/09/2019
Application Refused: 04/11/2019
First AR 1 Filed: 25/11/2019
First AR 1 Successful Email - Sent for Reassessment: 18/12/2019
Application Refused Again: 21/12/2019
Second AR 2 Filed: 16/01/2020
Passport Request via VFS Phone Call
So Neither me nor my Solicitor got an email for successful Second AR but suddenly i got a call from VFS saying the British High Commission has asked me to re submit my passport.
I'm confused since they send an email for AR decision before they request the passport?
What does this mean? Is the application approved and they want to stamp the visa or why do they even need my passport for?
Any suggestion would be helpful.
Thanks
argnihd13 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:10 amHello Moderators and Everyone
---- Tier 1 Entrepreneur -----
---- Initial Application 50k ---
---- Normal, Outside UK ------
The timeline of my application is:
Submitted: 27/03/2019
Received at Sheffied: 05/04/2019
Complex letter: 18/04/2019
(1st) First Interview: 07/07/2019
(2nd) Second Interview: 20/07/2019
(3rd) Third Interview: 16/09/2019
Initial Application Refused: 04/11/2019
First AR Filed: 25/11/2019
First AR Successful Email - Sent for Reassessment: 18/12/2019
First AR Refused: 21/12/2019
Second AR Filed: 16/01/2020
Second AR Refused: 20/02/2020
-----------AFTER 7 MONTHS-----------------
'Initial' application Refusal Reasons:
1) My application got considered under 200k route. Therefore i was awarded 0/75 Zero points
for (i)Access to 50k via VC (ii) FCA (iii) Funds are Disposible but at the end it said "75 points awarded as claimed"
2) Genuine Entrepreneur Test - some invalid reasons.
ECO "For the reason outlined above, I am not satisfied with the genuineness of your application.
Your application is therefore refused under paragraphs 245DB (f) & (j) of the Immigration Rules of the Immigration Rules."
-------------------FIRST ADMIN REVIEW---------------------------
My solicitor filed an AR_1 explaining the errors made by the ECO while assessing my application and if i was given all 75 points, i should be granted the visa.
AR got successful and application was sent to ECO for reconsideration as it was their fault.
First AR was refused with the following reasons:
ECO "For the funds to be available to you, the venture capital firm you are using would need to give you £50,000 to invest in the business on an unconditional basis. You have not been awarded 75 points on the basis of funds available to you or on having already invested funds. Your application is therefore refused under paragraph 245DB (b)."
There were certain conditions and milestones on which the fund could be took from the VC.
After this refusal, i discussed this with the VC and they agreed to take down the draw down conditions and provided a letter to confirm the same.
----------------SECOND ADMIN REVIEW----------------------
My solicitor stated since the route is now closed, asked the ECO to use his discretion and consider this letter. Even the law doesn't anywhere specify that the funds should be 'unconditionally' available. It just says they should be 'available'.
Within this time the HO requested for my passport and returned it back as it is after 3 days. I thought
they were to grant the visa, but seems like they just wanted it for some sort of verification...
ECO Refused again:
"Careful consideration has been given to the points raised above, however, I have upheld the ECO decision to refuse your application. I am unable to consider evidence provided at the administrative review stage that was not available to the ECO when making their decision, unless it meets certain requirements set out at Appendix AR. On review of the document, I am satisfied that it was not available to the ECO and that it does not meet requirements set out in Appendix AR therefore, I have not considered the document as part of my assessment of your application. It is clear from review of the documents available at the time of the decision that the investment funds were available to you only in the circumstances that you and the company had met certain requirements set out by the venture capital firm. You confirmed this to be the case in each of the interviews you attended and therefore, the ECO had no reason to believe anything to the contrary. As the specified document had been provided, and there was no indication that the stipulations set out in the document was different, I am satisfied that the ECO did not err in failing to request this from you again, either discretionally or under the requirements of Paragraph 245AA. Based on the above, I have upheld the ECO decision to refuse your application, in line with Paragraph 245DB(b) and Appendix A."
-------------------------------------------------------------
I'm a genuine entrepreneur. I've completed my graduation from the UK. I genuinely want to start and establish my own business within the UK. I'm waiting for this opportunity for last 11 months now. Just very very confused and impatient because of what is happening with my application.
Has anyone else been in the same situation?
Is there a benefit of going for a PAP/JR?
What would you advise?
Thanks
Genuineness is a different matter. Often during JR, HO fails to show how you are not a genuine entrepreneur. If you really want to fight this, then the next step is JRargnihd13 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:29 amThank you for your valuable reply zimba. Exactly what my solicitor suggested that the new evidence could be considered at the JR stage and there is merit in my case.
Along with this ECO mentioned the following in my last Admin review refusal:
“Your application has been refused as the Entry Clearance Officer is not satisfied that, on the balance of probabilities, you are a genuine entrepreneur, in line with Paragraph 245DB(f) and (h) of the Immigration Rules.”
While the immigration rules do not specifically state that it should be unconditionally available, it does say (rule 41A (vi)(7))argnihd13 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:10 amHello Moderators and Everyone
---- Tier 1 Entrepreneur -----
---- Initial Application 50k ---
---- Normal, Outside UK ------
The timeline of my application is:
Submitted: 27/03/2019
Received at Sheffied: 05/04/2019
Complex letter: 18/04/2019
(1st) First Interview: 07/07/2019
(2nd) Second Interview: 20/07/2019
(3rd) Third Interview: 16/09/2019
Initial Application Refused: 04/11/2019
First AR Filed: 25/11/2019
First AR Successful Email - Sent for Reassessment: 18/12/2019
First AR Refused: 21/12/2019
Second AR Filed: 16/01/2020
Second AR Refused: 20/02/2020
-----------AFTER 7 MONTHS-----------------
'Initial' application Refusal Reasons:
1) My application got considered under 200k route. Therefore i was awarded 0/75 Zero points
for (i)Access to 50k via VC (ii) FCA (iii) Funds are Disposible but at the end it said "75 points awarded as claimed"
2) Genuine Entrepreneur Test - some invalid reasons.
ECO "For the reason outlined above, I am not satisfied with the genuineness of your application.
Your application is therefore refused under paragraphs 245DB (f) & (j) of the Immigration Rules of the Immigration Rules."
-------------------FIRST ADMIN REVIEW---------------------------
My solicitor filed an AR_1 explaining the errors made by the ECO while assessing my application and if i was given all 75 points, i should be granted the visa.
AR got successful and application was sent to ECO for reconsideration as it was their fault.
First AR was refused with the following reasons:
ECO "For the funds to be available to you, the venture capital firm you are using would need to give you £50,000 to invest in the business on an unconditional basis. You have not been awarded 75 points on the basis of funds available to you or on having already invested funds. Your application is therefore refused under paragraph 245DB (b)."
There were certain conditions and milestones on which the fund could be took from the VC.
After this refusal, i discussed this with the VC and they agreed to take down the draw down conditions and provided a letter to confirm the same.
----------------SECOND ADMIN REVIEW----------------------
My solicitor stated since the route is now closed, asked the ECO to use his discretion and consider this letter. Even the law doesn't anywhere specify that the funds should be 'unconditionally' available. It just says they should be 'available'.
Within this time the HO requested for my passport and returned it back as it is after 3 days. I thought
they were to grant the visa, but seems like they just wanted it for some sort of verification...
ECO Refused again:
"Careful consideration has been given to the points raised above, however, I have upheld the ECO decision to refuse your application. I am unable to consider evidence provided at the administrative review stage that was not available to the ECO when making their decision, unless it meets certain requirements set out at Appendix AR. On review of the document, I am satisfied that it was not available to the ECO and that it does not meet requirements set out in Appendix AR therefore, I have not considered the document as part of my assessment of your application. It is clear from review of the documents available at the time of the decision that the investment funds were available to you only in the circumstances that you and the company had met certain requirements set out by the venture capital firm. You confirmed this to be the case in each of the interviews you attended and therefore, the ECO had no reason to believe anything to the contrary. As the specified document had been provided, and there was no indication that the stipulations set out in the document was different, I am satisfied that the ECO did not err in failing to request this from you again, either discretionally or under the requirements of Paragraph 245AA. Based on the above, I have upheld the ECO decision to refuse your application, in line with Paragraph 245DB(b) and Appendix A."
-------------------------------------------------------------
I'm a genuine entrepreneur. I've completed my graduation from the UK. I genuinely want to start and establish my own business within the UK. I'm waiting for this opportunity for last 11 months now. Just very very confused and impatient because of what is happening with my application.
Has anyone else been in the same situation?
Is there a benefit of going for a PAP/JR?
What would you advise?
Thanks
JR is part of the administrative law and not related to the immigration rules. JR can takes months as the case has to go to tribunal to be heard. There is no clear timescale for it. Seek the help of your lawyer to navigate thisargnihd13 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:40 pmSo the GLD maintained their decision in response to the PAP. I have filed for a JR now.
So what happens next? Can anyone/moderators please advise me on the approximate timeline after this as I've heard JR is a lengthy process and takes years in some cases? If you can please specify the events with time in weeks/months that'd be great..
Is the GLD or Upper Tribunal working as normal in these Pandemic circumstances and will i get a response within the set 21 days from the GLD?
Any advise would be appreciated !!!
If you are going ahead with the fight for this, also take into consideration that extension applications will only be accepted until April 2023 and ILR applications until April 2025.argnihd13 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:40 pmSo the GLD maintained their decision in response to the PAP. I have filed for a JR now.
So what happens next? Can anyone/moderators please advise me on the approximate timeline after this as I've heard JR is a lengthy process and takes years in some cases? If you can please specify the events with time in weeks/months that'd be great..
Is the GLD or Upper Tribunal working as normal in these Pandemic circumstances and will i get a response within the set 21 days from the GLD?
Any advise would be appreciated !!!