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Ow, well.. as I expected When you say escalate, how long is it? I mean when do you normally arrive to the airport?Zerubbabel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:54 pmEven if the Directive came into force more than 10 years ago, many airlines, immigration officers and other professionals are not aware about its existence.
I traveled a lot with my wife (she has an EEA family member card) and we have been denied boarding a few times including at London Heathrow and we managed to get in only after escalating the situation.
I don’t see any issues with stamping boarding cards/pass. Even date stamping passports may be beneficial to the passport holder when establishing proof of residence.agakuchta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:25 pmHello
My husband is an Indian national and has residence card of EU family member issued in the UK. We have not had many issues travelling together to Europe using our passports and his EU family member residence card. However, recently at the Luton Airport my husband was threatened that he would not be allowed to board a flight as he did not have his boarding card stamped at the check-in desk. I was travelling with him and there was no requirement for me to get my boarding pass stamped. I believe he cannot be treated in any different manner than EU citizen so this additional requirement is a breach of the EU directive. Am I right?
Thank you in advance
I assume the main concern was about being able to board at that stage. I also assume that OP didn't really go through check-in (ie did it online). So from how I read it, it's not about the stamp itself. It's about being able to travel.vinny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:01 pmI don’t see any issues with stamping boarding cards/pass. Even date stamping passports may be beneficial to the passport holder when establishing proof of residence.agakuchta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:25 pmHello
My husband is an Indian national and has residence card of EU family member issued in the UK. We have not had many issues travelling together to Europe using our passports and his EU family member residence card. However, recently at the Luton Airport my husband was threatened that he would not be allowed to board a flight as he did not have his boarding card stamped at the check-in desk. I was travelling with him and there was no requirement for me to get my boarding pass stamped. I believe he cannot be treated in any different manner than EU citizen so this additional requirement is a breach of the EU directive. Am I right?
Thank you in advance
Yes, it is about being able to travel but also, whether can my husband be treated differently to me or any other EU citizen?iwolga wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:07 pmI assume the main concern was about being able to board at that stage. I also assume that OP didn't really go through check-in (ie did it online). So from how I read it, it's not about the stamp itself. It's about being able to travel.vinny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:01 pmI don’t see any issues with stamping boarding cards/pass. Even date stamping passports may be beneficial to the passport holder when establishing proof of residence.agakuchta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:25 pmHello
My husband is an Indian national and has residence card of EU family member issued in the UK. We have not had many issues travelling together to Europe using our passports and his EU family member residence card. However, recently at the Luton Airport my husband was threatened that he would not be allowed to board a flight as he did not have his boarding card stamped at the check-in desk. I was travelling with him and there was no requirement for me to get my boarding pass stamped. I believe he cannot be treated in any different manner than EU citizen so this additional requirement is a breach of the EU directive. Am I right?
Thank you in advance
It is not about stamping the boarding card/pass. It is about EU family member being treated differently to EU citizen and being refused travel just because internal company policy allegedly require him to stamp the boarding pass.vinny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:01 pmI don’t see any issues with stamping boarding cards/pass. Even date stamping passports may be beneficial to the passport holder when establishing proof of residence.agakuchta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:25 pmHello
My husband is an Indian national and has residence card of EU family member issued in the UK. We have not had many issues travelling together to Europe using our passports and his EU family member residence card. However, recently at the Luton Airport my husband was threatened that he would not be allowed to board a flight as he did not have his boarding card stamped at the check-in desk. I was travelling with him and there was no requirement for me to get my boarding pass stamped. I believe he cannot be treated in any different manner than EU citizen so this additional requirement is a breach of the EU directive. Am I right?
Thank you in advance
We did travel in the past from outside EU to UK and didn't have this problem before.iwolga wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:41 pmI think you are right but let's see what gurus will reply.
If only airline's personnel would be familiar with EU directive.
I assume what they meant is they wanted someone at check in to validate the fact that your husband can travel without visa to EU country. I assume they didn't know it at the gate.
Did you ever traveled from outside the EU not to UK directly? Say from India?
I travel a lot of work. A few times a month. When I travel alone, I manage to get at the airport 2 hours to 1 hour before. For smaller airports, last minute arrival is ok.Ow, well.. as I expected When you say escalate, how long is it? I mean when do you normally arrive to the airport?
It's not normal, but it will always happen sadly. Hopefully, at one point he will be able to apply for British citizenship and this will change the attitudes towards him. At the moment, there isn't much you can do.It is not about stamping the boarding card/pass. It is about EU family member being treated differently to EU citizen and being refused travel just because internal company policy allegedly require him to stamp the boarding pass.
Well, this is a hmmm challenge. I don't know how your wife reacts to this, I would most certainly stress out.Zerubbabel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:16 pmWhen I travel with my wife, I am at the airport 3 hours before the flight. Most often than not, the person a the check-in desk never heard about the Directive. So I bring a copy with me. If they don't want to listen, I ask for a manager. We are then put aside and we wait while the manager comes in.
During our last trips, there wasn't a single case where we manage to fly without being challenged. People who know about the Directive aren't the norm.
Not entirely correct. Non-EEA family members have rights that are dependent on the freedom of movement of the EEA citizen that they are related to. Their EEA citizen family members have rights that are independent of anybody else's and are directly based on their status as EU citizens. So, while they have similar rights, they are not same in every respect.
The policies regarding lines at the UKV&I checkins seem to vary from airport to airport (also see this similar thread) and is primarily for the convenience of the immigration staff. For instance, some airports allow ILR holders to use the British/EEA citizens queue, while others don't.