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You can of course submit that in order to explain the discrepancies, but your naturalisation residency calculator depends on your dates in your passport stamps.sokalsondha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:25 amThanks my friend for reply.
I think you misunderstood me. I didn't keep any copy of GNIB. I applied for the GNIB history to the INIS and they send me the printed statement by post. Will that be okay if I submit?
...enter your permissions as evidenced in your passport and verify that you satisfy residency requirements...
As the letter has spelled out clearly, it is “the endorsements on your passport”. Some people may argue that you can use the dates from the permission letters, but I doubt if that can give you any benefits. They may only slow your application down if INIS finds a discrepancy and decides to spend a few months checking whether it’s correct or not.johnpromise01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:43 pm
I tried this but did not work. This the reply I got:
"I am to advise that the information sought by you is for official use only. The endorsements on your passport should provide you with the dates needed to compile your history of registrations with the Garda National Immigration Bureau.
This office issues a person with a letter of reckonable residency if another public sector body (e.g., a Department of State) specifically requests that the person submit the letter as part of an application.
With respect to all applications for naturalisation, the Citizenship Division of the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service will write to you to request a reckonable residency letter if the document is required. You should attach a copy of above-mentioned letter when requesting for a written record of reckonable residency in this State.
Yours sincerely,
Sent on behalf of
Detective Chief Superintendent, Garda National Immigration Bureau"
Permission to remain letters from INIS should suffice isn't?
Thanks. Actually my concern is because I do not have a passport from when I was granted stamp for some year not until my last stamp 4 renewal. I was unable to obtain a passport from my embassy but I was issued an Irish travel document by INIS which enabled me travelled to my country and obtained my passport there, now have my last stamp on it. But I have all permission letters up to date.littlerr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:59 pmAs the letter has spelled out clearly, it is “the endorsements on your passport”. Some people may argue that you can use the dates from the permission letters, but I doubt if that can give you any benefits. They may only slow your application down if INIS finds a discrepancy and decides to spend a few months checking whether it’s correct or not.johnpromise01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:43 pm
I tried this but did not work. This the reply I got:
"I am to advise that the information sought by you is for official use only. The endorsements on your passport should provide you with the dates needed to compile your history of registrations with the Garda National Immigration Bureau.
This office issues a person with a letter of reckonable residency if another public sector body (e.g., a Department of State) specifically requests that the person submit the letter as part of an application.
With respect to all applications for naturalisation, the Citizenship Division of the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service will write to you to request a reckonable residency letter if the document is required. You should attach a copy of above-mentioned letter when requesting for a written record of reckonable residency in this State.
Yours sincerely,
Sent on behalf of
Detective Chief Superintendent, Garda National Immigration Bureau"
Permission to remain letters from INIS should suffice isn't?
Ok that's a different story then. What your solicitor said is correct. If a permission letter says your permission starts on a certain date, you can use that to calculate your reckonable residency. I just don't recommend doing that as it is against the guideline set out by INIS which clearly says you should use the date on your passport stamps.johnpromise01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:19 pmThanks. Actually my concern is because I do not have a passport from when I was granted stamp for some year not until my last stamp 4 renewal. I was unable to obtain a passport from my embassy but I was issued an Irish travel document by INIS which enabled me travelled to my country and obtained my passport there, now have my last stamp on it. But I have all permission letters up to date.littlerr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:59 pmAs the letter has spelled out clearly, it is “the endorsements on your passport”. Some people may argue that you can use the dates from the permission letters, but I doubt if that can give you any benefits. They may only slow your application down if INIS finds a discrepancy and decides to spend a few months checking whether it’s correct or not.johnpromise01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:43 pm
I tried this but did not work. This the reply I got:
"I am to advise that the information sought by you is for official use only. The endorsements on your passport should provide you with the dates needed to compile your history of registrations with the Garda National Immigration Bureau.
This office issues a person with a letter of reckonable residency if another public sector body (e.g., a Department of State) specifically requests that the person submit the letter as part of an application.
With respect to all applications for naturalisation, the Citizenship Division of the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service will write to you to request a reckonable residency letter if the document is required. You should attach a copy of above-mentioned letter when requesting for a written record of reckonable residency in this State.
Yours sincerely,
Sent on behalf of
Detective Chief Superintendent, Garda National Immigration Bureau"
Permission to remain letters from INIS should suffice isn't?
Bit confused here. I forwarded the INIS recent reply to my solicitor and this is what my solicitor sent to me:
"Your residency is calculated per the dates of your permission letters from the Minister so there's no reason you didn't meet the reckonable residence condition. In our view, you should start preparing them and apply. The Citizenship section are raising many additional queries with applicants in general in recent times"
johnpromise01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:43 pm
I tried this but did not work. This the reply I got:
"I am to advise that the information sought by you is for official use only. The endorsements on your passport should provide you with the dates needed to compile your history of registrations with the Garda National Immigration Bureau.
This office issues a person with a letter of reckonable residency if another public sector body (e.g., a Department of State) specifically requests that the person submit the letter as part of an application.
With respect to all applications for naturalisation, the Citizenship Division of the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service will write to you to request a reckonable residency letter if the document is required. You should attach a copy of above-mentioned letter when requesting for a written record of reckonable residency in this State.
Yours sincerely,
Sent on behalf of
Detective Chief Superintendent, Garda National Immigration Bureau"
Permission to remain letters from INIS should suffice isn't?
Sorry to ask pls how were you able to obtain the Irish travel document? I am in similar position.johnpromise01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:19 pmThanks. Actually my concern is because I do not have a passport from when I was granted stamp for some year not until my last stamp 4 renewal. I was unable to obtain a passport from my embassy but I was issued an Irish travel document by INIS which enabled me travelled to my country and obtained my passport there, now have my last stamp on it. But I have all permission letters up to date.littlerr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:59 pmAs the letter has spelled out clearly, it is “the endorsements on your passport”. Some people may argue that you can use the dates from the permission letters, but I doubt if that can give you any benefits. They may only slow your application down if INIS finds a discrepancy and decides to spend a few months checking whether it’s correct or not.johnpromise01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:43 pm
I tried this but did not work. This the reply I got:
"I am to advise that the information sought by you is for official use only. The endorsements on your passport should provide you with the dates needed to compile your history of registrations with the Garda National Immigration Bureau.
This office issues a person with a letter of reckonable residency if another public sector body (e.g., a Department of State) specifically requests that the person submit the letter as part of an application.
With respect to all applications for naturalisation, the Citizenship Division of the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service will write to you to request a reckonable residency letter if the document is required. You should attach a copy of above-mentioned letter when requesting for a written record of reckonable residency in this State.
Yours sincerely,
Sent on behalf of
Detective Chief Superintendent, Garda National Immigration Bureau"
Permission to remain letters from INIS should suffice isn't?
Bit confused here. I forwarded the INIS recent reply to my solicitor and this is what my solicitor sent to me:
"Your residency is calculated per the dates of your permission letters from the Minister so there's no reason you didn't meet the reckonable residence condition. In our view, you should start preparing them and apply. The Citizenship section are raising many additional queries with applicants in general in recent times"
I've finally applied for reckonable residence history to date to the FOI. Got acknowledgement and said it would take 4 weeks excluding Saturdays and Sundays to get it. Thanks guys.Bealtaine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:16 pmjohnpromise01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:43 pm
I tried this but did not work. This the reply I got:
"I am to advise that the information sought by you is for official use only. The endorsements on your passport should provide you with the dates needed to compile your history of registrations with the Garda National Immigration Bureau.
This office issues a person with a letter of reckonable residency if another public sector body (e.g., a Department of State) specifically requests that the person submit the letter as part of an application.
With respect to all applications for naturalisation, the Citizenship Division of the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service will write to you to request a reckonable residency letter if the document is required. You should attach a copy of above-mentioned letter when requesting for a written record of reckonable residency in this State.
Yours sincerely,
Sent on behalf of
Detective Chief Superintendent, Garda National Immigration Bureau"
Permission to remain letters from INIS should suffice isn't?
Interesting. I had applied for it and received it shortly after in May ‘19.
You must provide letter from your country's embassy stating they can't issue you a passport and you will have to travel to your country or nearest embassy outside Ireland to get it. My solicitor processed it for me and all I did was to get the letter from my embassy which took me almost 4 years before my embassy can give me the letter. Irish Travel document is extremely difficult to get. Will send you a copy of the front cover of mine now.Ruth87 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:24 amSorry to ask pls how were you able to obtain the Irish travel document? I am in similar position.johnpromise01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:19 pmThanks. Actually my concern is because I do not have a passport from when I was granted stamp for some year not until my last stamp 4 renewal. I was unable to obtain a passport from my embassy but I was issued an Irish travel document by INIS which enabled me travelled to my country and obtained my passport there, now have my last stamp on it. But I have all permission letters up to date.littlerr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:59 pmAs the letter has spelled out clearly, it is “the endorsements on your passport”. Some people may argue that you can use the dates from the permission letters, but I doubt if that can give you any benefits. They may only slow your application down if INIS finds a discrepancy and decides to spend a few months checking whether it’s correct or not.johnpromise01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:43 pm
I tried this but did not work. This the reply I got:
"I am to advise that the information sought by you is for official use only. The endorsements on your passport should provide you with the dates needed to compile your history of registrations with the Garda National Immigration Bureau.
This office issues a person with a letter of reckonable residency if another public sector body (e.g., a Department of State) specifically requests that the person submit the letter as part of an application.
With respect to all applications for naturalisation, the Citizenship Division of the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service will write to you to request a reckonable residency letter if the document is required. You should attach a copy of above-mentioned letter when requesting for a written record of reckonable residency in this State.
Yours sincerely,
Sent on behalf of
Detective Chief Superintendent, Garda National Immigration Bureau"
Permission to remain letters from INIS should suffice isn't?
Bit confused here. I forwarded the INIS recent reply to my solicitor and this is what my solicitor sent to me:
"Your residency is calculated per the dates of your permission letters from the Minister so there's no reason you didn't meet the reckonable residence condition. In our view, you should start preparing them and apply. The Citizenship section are raising many additional queries with applicants in general in recent times"
My solicitor said my residency is calculated per the dates of my permission letters from the Minister.nanabeltranfab wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:14 amHi I did talked to our immigration officer, he said that the dates you put in ur residency calculator is the dates of your GNIB card not the dates of stamps from passport and he said whoever is examining the application well know that the dates now doesnt match the dates of our garda card release. Ask your local garda immigration officer for the dates to be use for residency calculator
Can you kindly tell me the procedure to apply for getting the record of the GNIB stamps?