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Thanks for the prompt reply. She want to spend some more time with her newly born grandchild. And we want to inform home office in advance about the intentions . Although I am not sure which email address to send email to.secret.simon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:06 pmWhy does she wish to extend her stay?
Keep in mind that any future application will likely see this as her being economical with the truth at the time of application and therefore may increase the chances of a subsequent refusal.
Also, the Immigration Rules explicitly forbid residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa. The ECO in subsequent visa applications may judge that she did precisely that.
So the reason is quite important.
The law prohibits the abuse of visits visas. Basically, if someone is seen as staying too long as it is almost living in UK, this someone is considered to be not a genuine visitor.irfan khan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:51 pmThanks for the prompt reply. She want to spend some more time with her newly born grandchild. And we want to inform home office in advance about the intentions . Although I am not sure which email address to send email to.secret.simon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:06 pmWhy does she wish to extend her stay?
Keep in mind that any future application will likely see this as her being economical with the truth at the time of application and therefore may increase the chances of a subsequent refusal.
Also, the Immigration Rules explicitly forbid residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa. The ECO in subsequent visa applications may judge that she did precisely that.
So the reason is quite important.
Regarding your last statement "The Immigration Rules explicitly forbid residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa", I am not sure if i properly understand it. She has a valid visit visa (validity : May, 2020) and she just want to stay few more days than originally planned.
Regards
Your mom still has a valid visa which will still be even at the time she departs UK. She is staying beyond the number of days she filled in the application form (or landing card) but her stay not exceeding validity of her visa.irfan khan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:51 pmThanks for the prompt reply. She want to spend some more time with her newly born grandchild. And we want to inform home office in advance about the intentions . Although I am not sure which email address to send email to.secret.simon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:06 pmWhy does she wish to extend her stay?
Keep in mind that any future application will likely see this as her being economical with the truth at the time of application and therefore may increase the chances of a subsequent refusal.
Also, the Immigration Rules explicitly forbid residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa. The ECO in subsequent visa applications may judge that she did precisely that.
So the reason is quite important.
Regarding your last statement "The Immigration Rules explicitly forbid residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa", I am not sure if i properly understand it. She has a valid visit visa (validity : May, 2020) and she just want to stay few more days than originally planned.
Regards
It is after a short while of her departure and she attempts coming back to UK, apply for another visit visa and end up staying longer in UK than her home country it becomes staying in UK under guise of visit.AmazonianX wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:51 pmYour mom still has a valid visa which will still be even at the time she departs UK. She is staying beyond the number of days she filled in the application form (or landing card) but her stay not exceeding validity of her visa.irfan khan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:51 pmThanks for the prompt reply. She want to spend some more time with her newly born grandchild. And we want to inform home office in advance about the intentions . Although I am not sure which email address to send email to.secret.simon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:06 pmWhy does she wish to extend her stay?
Keep in mind that any future application will likely see this as her being economical with the truth at the time of application and therefore may increase the chances of a subsequent refusal.
Also, the Immigration Rules explicitly forbid residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa. The ECO in subsequent visa applications may judge that she did precisely that.
So the reason is quite important.
Regarding your last statement "The Immigration Rules explicitly forbid residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa", I am not sure if i properly understand it. She has a valid visit visa (validity : May, 2020) and she just want to stay few more days than originally planned.
Regards
She is still perfectly within her visa conditions and no requirement to inform HO.
Thanks for reply. She will be staying 19-20 days more than original 45 days stated which is just around 40%. I am still not sure how it can be seen as abuse of visits visa. I agree if she was staying for 3 months or more that could have raised an alarm but I personally doubt that 20 days will be an issue. Do you know any cases where the subsequent application has been refused just because someone has stayed 2-3 week more than originally planned.iwolga wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:31 pmThe law prohibits the abuse of visits visas. Basically, if someone is seen as staying too long as it is almost living in UK, this someone is considered to be not a genuine visitor.irfan khan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:51 pmThanks for the prompt reply. She want to spend some more time with her newly born grandchild. And we want to inform home office in advance about the intentions . Although I am not sure which email address to send email to.secret.simon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:06 pmWhy does she wish to extend her stay?
Keep in mind that any future application will likely see this as her being economical with the truth at the time of application and therefore may increase the chances of a subsequent refusal.
Also, the Immigration Rules explicitly forbid residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa. The ECO in subsequent visa applications may judge that she did precisely that.
So the reason is quite important.
Regarding your last statement "The Immigration Rules explicitly forbid residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa", I am not sure if i properly understand it. She has a valid visit visa (validity : May, 2020) and she just want to stay few more days than originally planned.
Regards
I don’t think there’s an email or procedure to inform that your mum is going to be staying longer. At this point of time they care that she leaves within validity of her visa. I’m sure if you get a reply from HO it will be about this.
However, there’s an increased risk of future applications should your mum not leave within time suggested in visa application. If these are 2-3 days, no one cares. But you are thinking of increasing her stay by - what - 80%?
Not really, no. But what I do know from this forum, that some of the subsequent applications were refused based on “you are not a genuine visitor” argument.irfan khan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:34 pmThanks for reply. She will be staying 19-20 days more than original 45 days stated which is just around 40%. I am still not sure how it can be seen as abuse of visits visa. I agree if she was staying for 3 months or more that could have raised an alarm but I personally doubt that 20 days will be an issue. Do you know any cases where the subsequent application has been refused just because someone has stayed 2-3 week more than originally planned.iwolga wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:31 pmThe law prohibits the abuse of visits visas. Basically, if someone is seen as staying too long as it is almost living in UK, this someone is considered to be not a genuine visitor.irfan khan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:51 pmThanks for the prompt reply. She want to spend some more time with her newly born grandchild. And we want to inform home office in advance about the intentions . Although I am not sure which email address to send email to.secret.simon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:06 pmWhy does she wish to extend her stay?
Keep in mind that any future application will likely see this as her being economical with the truth at the time of application and therefore may increase the chances of a subsequent refusal.
Also, the Immigration Rules explicitly forbid residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa. The ECO in subsequent visa applications may judge that she did precisely that.
So the reason is quite important.
Regarding your last statement "The Immigration Rules explicitly forbid residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa", I am not sure if i properly understand it. She has a valid visit visa (validity : May, 2020) and she just want to stay few more days than originally planned.
Regards
I don’t think there’s an email or procedure to inform that your mum is going to be staying longer. At this point of time they care that she leaves within validity of her visa. I’m sure if you get a reply from HO it will be about this.
However, there’s an increased risk of future applications should your mum not leave within time suggested in visa application. If these are 2-3 days, no one cares. But you are thinking of increasing her stay by - what - 80%?
Far from being a qualified solicitor myself, I totally agree with you: plans change. As long as this is within the validity of visa and not significantly over initial dates, there shall be no problems with current visit. I also believe there shall be no problems with further applications unless something else isn't right (ie no savings for the applicant, no property to show etc).THO wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:50 amIf you have a valid visa, I am fairly certain that as long as you leave before it expires, no one will take a blind bit of notice. How could future applications be affected because you obeyed the visa?
People's travel plans can change and wanting to stay longer to be with a grandchild is a perfectly reasonable reason.
Maybe you could / should ask an immigration solicitor for a quick piece of advice, rather than rely on unqualified people (like myself) and their (like mine) opinion? Phone a few, I am sure you would be able to get the answer.