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Yea but how esrly i will tell this date to submit bundle.snooky wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:33 pmNormally your bundle should be in a week before your Court date of appearance. (One week before go to Court)mubashir1981 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:21 pmHi snooky
I got notification of my appeal now. Next they tell me whn i have to submit the bundle. How much there will be time game between time they tell me to submit and final date to submit bundle. Any idea?
Mubashirmubashir1981 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:30 amYea but how esrly i will tell this date to submit bundle.snooky wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:33 pmNormally your bundle should be in a week before your Court date of appearance. (One week before go to Court)mubashir1981 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:21 pmHi snooky
I got notification of my appeal now. Next they tell me whn i have to submit the bundle. How much there will be time game between time they tell me to submit and final date to submit bundle. Any idea?
For example on mar 15 i get letter thst u need to submit ur bundle mar 16. So this 24 hrs notice. Would that b something like this or 1 week 4 week notice will given.
I don't think so they will update there guide according to new patel case.Chris90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:59 amHad a look at the guidance, on page 5 title (about this guidance) it considering from 31 of October 2019 far from the 16 Dec 2019 when the Patel appeal was delivered.
Proof they trying to lag behind, to buy time and deny justice, its the 15 Feb 2020 why would you publish a guide that is no longer current.
What I do know is that the Supreme Court is the highest in the UK and the case 2019 Uksc 59 has been resolved. They will eventually have to update their guidance to reflect new Patel appeal but as we know already, home office uses the law at their advantage, guidance is not law, specifically guidance is not caselaw.
When Boris Johnson suppended Parliament the supreme Court order it unlawful he had to reopen
Home office is not above the law they will have to comply.
The same 2017 Patel ruling they holding on to have been settled by final ruling December 2019 unless they gonna take it to European courts and I don't see that happening it will be upheld.
Just please remember if we got to court for justice, claim for the damages, loss of earnings, medical issues, hardships etc if you have experience any of these. Write down names and date of all your enquiry to the resolution centre. Hold them to every word they say to you and remember we fighting the big boss, won't be easy.
Best wishes
We
I called phso they ask to ask homeoffice to review my complaint first. On wht stage ur complaint is?Chris90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:33 ammubashir1981 hey there,
That's my point, they are purposely lagging behind, not at accident it took so long for an update on the guidance and when it comes the date it's in effect is kinda backdated, clearly Patel 2017 is relevant for them to put up restrictions but not Patel 2019 which removes some of these restrictions , they will update the guidance but I think when it don't matter.
Remember the recent ruling will give resident rights to those you have been denied before, even worst removed from the country all together. We don't know how large or small than number is but it's not just us here waiting for a decision it would impact positively.
I will compare the previous guidances and see the frequency of updates and the changes but I already know home office would rather not give most of of settled status as we will no longer be under immigration control....
Remember folks there is such a thing called immigration control. They been trying for years to control numbers unsuccessfully, brexit was built on the back of the aim to control.
Let us all keep our morals up and sharpen up our speech and knowledge on this as we will need it to defend ourselves from home office law games
MubashirChris90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:33 ammubashir1981 hey there,
That's my point, they are purposely lagging behind, not at accident it took so long for an update on the guidance and when it comes the date it's in effect is kinda backdated, clearly Patel 2017 is relevant for them to put up restrictions but not Patel 2019 which removes some of these restrictions , they will update the guidance but I think when it don't matter.
Remember the recent ruling will give resident rights to those you have been denied before, even worst removed from the country all together. We don't know how large or small than number is but it's not just us here waiting for a decision it would impact positively.
I will compare the previous guidances and see the frequency of updates and the changes but I already know home office would rather not give most of of settled status as we will no longer be under immigration control....
Remember folks there is such a thing called immigration control. They been trying for years to control numbers unsuccessfully, brexit was built on the back of the aim to control.
Let us all keep our morals up and sharpen up our speech and knowledge on this as we will need it to defend ourselves from home office law games
Not your research Chris90, it is a documented fact that is enshrined in Sanneh vs SSHD that Zambrano start immediately not when you are to be removed.Chris90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:56 amJust so others know. Base on my research and my research only, I'm not a lawyer. A ZAMBRANO RIGHT COMES IN EFFECT IMMEDIATELY, a zambrano carer is not required to apply for anything for that right however a zambrano carer would want to apply for confirmation of that right and be issued with a card to prove he/she is a legal resident under EU laws/regulations. This is why time spent on a drc could not be used to count towards settlement before the settlement scheme was opened. As the settlement scheme is now open to zambrano carers and they realise the scale of zambrano carers, they come up with the restrictions Patel 2017, this is/was their last shield however caselaw removed this, and it was removed in such a big way. Its was not a separate case that removed their shield but the same case they grip to so hard.
The reason why most zambrano carers will not have removal direction against them unless there is serious criminality is due to the fact its an immediate right (drv card holder or not) however Dec 2020 they will be able to do things the way they like.
The term 'person subject to immigration control' (PSIC) is defined in s. 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996 as a person who requires leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom (whether or not such leave has been given)Chris90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:41 amExactly snooky, they fail stop us from applying to settlement scheme, they failed to apply certain restrictions about who be successful. They makes us wait excessive but I am not waiting without logging who said what and when they said it because I know what the laws states. My rights will not be infringed.
Makes a lot of sense, I did notice over the years the approach towards us.snooky wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:21 pm@Chris90
That's Why Zambrano people dont get REMOVAL DIRECTION and even when Home Office refused to confirm your entitlement, they still say YOU DONT NEED ANYTHING to PROOF YOUR RIGHT but work and rent purposes
Zambrano derivative carers dont need leave to enter or remain under british domestic immigration law but their right of leave is in freedom of movement directives
Zambrano and derivatives holders are not subject to
The term 'person subject to immigration control' (PSIC) is defined in s. 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996
Chris90Chris90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:45 pmMakes a lot of sense, I did notice over the years the approach towards us.snooky wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:21 pm@Chris90
That's Why Zambrano people dont get REMOVAL DIRECTION and even when Home Office refused to confirm your entitlement, they still say YOU DONT NEED ANYTHING to PROOF YOUR RIGHT but work and rent purposes
Zambrano derivative carers dont need leave to enter or remain under british domestic immigration law but their right of leave is in freedom of movement directives
Zambrano and derivatives holders are not subject to
The term 'person subject to immigration control' (PSIC) is defined in s. 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996
I do hope no one get scared throught this process, anxious yes but never be afraid as fear is a lier, I am also sure these guidances have parts not made public.
Look at it this way. I don't think we would have even been given an application form if we wasn't eligible. Notice how long the forms take to come when we requested it, In my opinion they started the checks at that point.
FOLKS PLEASE REMAIN MOTIVATED TO GET YOUR CASE RESOLVED. We gonna be alright in the end not because I said so but the law backs our claim.
Keep the pressure up with confidence and try to remain polite throughout the process.
Best wishes
shouldn't be more than 2 weeks
Alex6