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by Yahas76 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:04 pm
Yahas76 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:42 pm
Stillwaiting2020 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:12 pm
Hi,try to get the refusal letter from Home office to know why your application is refused and also to know if you have right of appeal,if you don't have right of appeal,you can make fresh application,attached a letter from your G.p or Mental health team if you have one,in the application don't tell them that you want to stay close with your Aunty,also get letter from your Aunty saying the reasons why she cannot accommodation you,you can say going to another city will have negative effects on your mental health,moreover Nass support you don't have a choice,I was In England and I was sent to Scotland where I don't have anybody it is really frustrating and stressful going to a city you didn't plan for due to accommodation.
Dear Stillwaiting2020,
Really thanks a lot for your valuable / detailed reply, its really appreciated.
Ok, i will send an email shortly to Home office on below mentioned emails to send me the letter of refusal, then will act accordingly.
AsylumSupportAssessmentTeam2@homeoffice.gov.uk
complaints@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
Or can tell me any Email address + Contact Number of Home Office to contact, it will help me.
I will update you accordingly.
Have a Good day.
Dear Stillwaiting2020,
Hope you are fine and doing well, i called Migrant Help and they confirmed that they sent an email to Home Office to provide me the refusal letter along with the refusal reason, hopefully i will get it within this week, then i will act accordingly.
I sent GP letter, Supporting letter from Acute day treatment unit & appointment letter from NHS WellBeing team for Cognitive behavioral therapy to Migrant Help and to the Home Office as well, let c what will be the outcome.
This is the Update till now.
Have a good day.
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by Stillwaiting2020 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:46 pm
Hi,the only way to contact Home office is through migrant Help,but there is another organisation that advice people about Nass suport,there name is ASAP.let's wait if you can get the letter from Home office after that you will know the way forward,if you use any food bank you can also get letters from them to support your claim.I will advice you to ring ASAP,their number is on there website.don't send any document to Home office anymore until you get the refusal letter.if you have appeal right you can appeal but if you don't have appeal right you can make another application.goodluck
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by Yahas76 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:00 pm
Stillwaiting2020 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:46 pm
Hi,the only way to contact Home office is through migrant Help,but there is another organisation that advice people about Nass suport,there name is ASAP.let's wait if you can get the letter from Home office after that you will know the way forward,if you use any food bank you can also get letters from them to support your claim.I will advice you to ring ASAP,their number is on there website.don't send any document to Home office anymore until you get the refusal letter.if you have appeal right you can appeal but if you don't have appeal right you can make another application.goodluck
Dear,
Really thanks a lot for your detailed reply again, i talked with Migrant Help, East London Tribunals Service, First-tier Tribunal, Asylum Support Appeal Project and BritishRedCross, they all said wait for the Refusal letter to get to know the refusal reason then act accordingly.
I also called Home Office but in different department, the Lady was really helpful, she took all my details and send to the concerned department and asked them to do the needful as soon as possible.
I will update you once i will receive the refusal letter.
Take care.
Have a Good Day.
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by hinaaaa » Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:47 pm
Mba88 can you share you immigration history,on what basis you claim asylum and granted??
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by rina » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:09 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:17 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:19 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:52 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:50 am
Hi everyone. I submitted my fresh claim 17 February 2018.. Last august i complain about of delay my get a decision.. 29 august they reply and they give me 6 month timescal. 2 january 202o they send a letter for update document.. I send its 16 january.. Almost 4 week later they send me a letter for biometric fingerprint within 5 working day . Mention there need to an appointment from any service and support centre. 19 february i give thats is lunar house, croydon.. Anybody think its good or bad....
Hi,
I believe it is a good sign because further submission unit don't send biometric for every cases. everyone I know who did biometric got granted.
could you please let me know how did you made complaint. I did mine 26th October 2018 and still waiting ,didn't hear anything
Thanks for your reply.. I complaints via email..
complaints@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk. Its very helpful for boost up to take a decision..
Hi,
Thank you for your reply and I used same email address send complaint begin of this month but didn't receive any response yet. that is why I ask you which email you have used . after how long did you get response from them for your complaint.
Copy and paste the same email you sent and send it again. They responded to me once after I sent the email again
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by nuni1234 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:27 pm
Hi to all Members
i need your help please i claimed asylum and had screening interview in april 2019 since then i didnt hear anything from HO no main interview nothing could anyone please help what should i do? where should i contact them for my interview
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by rina » Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:33 pm
nuni1234 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:27 pm
Hi to all Members
i need your help please i claimed asylum and had screening interview in april 2019 since then i didnt hear anything from HO no main interview nothing could anyone please help what should i do? where should i contact them for my interview
I had mine in March and nothing too. It is so frustrating.
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by rina » Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:35 pm
rina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:33 pm
nuni1234 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:27 pm
Hi to all Members
i need your help please i claimed asylum and had screening interview in april 2019 since then i didnt hear anything from HO no main interview nothing could anyone please help what should i do? where should i contact them for my interview
I had mine in March and nothing too. It is so frustrating.
I wrote to the complaints department but got a generic email saying I have to wait. Others have been lucky and got a better response so it worth a try.
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by Khatoon82 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:47 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:02 pm
Khatoon82 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:54 pm
Hi can anyone with further submissions successful applications on child 7 year route share their time line please , or if you are waiting after further submissions or been asked to do your finger prints
I did my further submissions in Oct 2018 hasn’t been asked to do finger prints as yet still waiting
Thanks
Hi
Did you get biometric yet. I am also in same situation as you did further submission October 2018 on 7 year route and recently made update sending my daughter's British citizen register certificate as my second daughter registered as British citizen. made a complaint few days before. still nothing to hear.
one of our friend family granted their visa based on child 7 year route within 8 weeks after further submission made. don't know why it takes this long for us.
Hi
Any updates regarding your application, bio metric letter or any contact from home office ?
I am still in same situation waiting patiently no updates
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by wikki » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:22 pm
nuni1234 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:27 pm
Hi to all Members
i need your help please i claimed asylum and had screening interview in april 2019 since then i didnt hear anything from HO no main interview nothing could anyone please help what should i do? where should i contact them for my interview
Hi please, what is your immigration history and on what basis are you claiming if you don't mind?
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by senu14 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:12 pm
Khatoon82 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:47 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:02 pm
Khatoon82 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:54 pm
Hi can anyone with further submissions successful applications on child 7 year route share their time line please , or if you are waiting after further submissions or been asked to do your finger prints
I did my further submissions in Oct 2018 hasn’t been asked to do finger prints as yet still waiting
Thanks
Hi
Did you get biometric yet. I am also in same situation as you did further submission October 2018 on 7 year route and recently made update sending my daughter's British citizen register certificate as my second daughter registered as British citizen. made a complaint few days before. still nothing to hear.
one of our friend family granted their visa based on child 7 year route within 8 weeks after further submission made. don't know why it takes this long for us.
Hi
Any updates regarding your application, bio metric letter or any contact from home office ?
I am still in same situation waiting patiently no updates
Hi,
I didn't received anything yet so stressful waiting. two times sent complaint emails but no response either. I seen some people who made a claim this January also received biometric for 7 years basis don't know why it keeping us this long.
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by senu14 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:16 pm
rina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:09 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:17 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:19 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:52 pm
Hi,
I believe it is a good sign because further submission unit don't send biometric for every cases. everyone I know who did biometric got granted.
could you please let me know how did you made complaint. I did mine 26th October 2018 and still waiting ,didn't hear anything
Thanks for your reply.. I complaints via email..
complaints@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk. Its very helpful for boost up to take a decision..
Hi,
Thank you for your reply and I used same email address send complaint begin of this month but didn't receive any response yet. that is why I ask you which email you have used . after how long did you get response from them for your complaint.
Copy and paste the same email you sent and send it again. They responded to me once after I sent the email again
Hi ,
Thank you for your comment and I did it. hope at least this time will get response. did they gave you timeline to make your decision or sent biometric letters for you.
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by senu14 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:39 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:12 pm
Khatoon82 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:47 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:02 pm
Khatoon82 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:54 pm
Hi can anyone with further submissions successful applications on child 7 year route share their time line please , or if you are waiting after further submissions or been asked to do your finger prints
I did my further submissions in Oct 2018 hasn’t been asked to do finger prints as yet still waiting
Thanks
Hi
Did you get biometric yet. I am also in same situation as you did further submission October 2018 on 7 year route and recently made update sending my daughter's British citizen register certificate as my second daughter registered as British citizen. made a complaint few days before. still nothing to hear.
one of our friend family granted their visa based on child 7 year route within 8 weeks after further submission made. don't know why it takes this long for us.
Hi
Any updates regarding your application, bio metric letter or any contact from home office ?
I am still in same situation waiting patiently no updates
Hi,
I didn't received anything yet so stressful waiting. two times sent complaint emails but no response either. I seen some people who made a claim this January also received biometric for 7 years basis don't know why it keeping us this long.
hi,
I received an email from MP today. I have contacted MP regarding my application delay after I didn't get response myself but it was not that useful too. HO informed to MP they received recent evidence and being reviewed but HO didn't update him progressing of application only says still being work on it.
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by Khatoon82 » Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:14 am
senu14 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:39 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:12 pm
Khatoon82 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:47 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:02 pm
Hi
Did you get biometric yet. I am also in same situation as you did further submission October 2018 on 7 year route and recently made update sending my daughter's British citizen register certificate as my second daughter registered as British citizen. made a complaint few days before. still nothing to hear.
one of our friend family granted their visa based on child 7 year route within 8 weeks after further submission made. don't know why it takes this long for us.
Hi
Any updates regarding your application, bio metric letter or any contact from home office ?
I am still in same situation waiting patiently no updates
Hi,
I didn't received anything yet so stressful waiting. two times sent complaint emails but no response either. I seen some people who made a claim this January also received biometric for 7 years basis don't know why it keeping us this long.
hi,
I received an email from MP today. I have contacted MP regarding my application delay after I didn't get response myself but it was not that useful too. HO informed to MP they received recent evidence and being reviewed but HO didn't update him progressing of application only says still being work on it.
Hi thanks for the update ,
Well I did put a complaint in last September and they replied that they will make a decision on my application within next 7 months , just guessing depending on forum experience I think it take about 19 months I think you will receive a biometric letter before end of this month , and then another month for grant . Fingers crossed
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by senu14 » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:05 pm
Khatoon82 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:14 am
senu14 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:39 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:12 pm
Khatoon82 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:47 pm
Hi
Any updates regarding your application, bio metric letter or any contact from home office ?
I am still in same situation waiting patiently no updates
Hi,
I didn't received anything yet so stressful waiting. two times sent complaint emails but no response either. I seen some people who made a claim this January also received biometric for 7 years basis don't know why it keeping us this long.
hi,
I received an email from MP today. I have contacted MP regarding my application delay after I didn't get response myself but it was not that useful too. HO informed to MP they received recent evidence and being reviewed but HO didn't update him progressing of application only says still being work on it.
Hi thanks for the update ,
Well I did put a complaint in last September and they replied that they will make a decision on my application within next 7 months , just guessing depending on forum experience I think it take about 19 months I think you will receive a biometric letter before end of this month , and then another month for grant . Fingers crossed
Hi,
Thank you for positive encourage. I still didn't received any response for my complaint. I am just keep forwarding same email . I agree with your guess ,me too I m thinking it might come this month as I been notice most people said around 18 to 19 months time they received biometric. how long you are waiting after biometric now
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by senu14 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:33 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:47 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:17 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:19 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:52 pm
Hi,
I believe it is a good sign because further submission unit don't send biometric for every cases. everyone I know who did biometric got granted.
could you please let me know how did you made complaint. I did mine 26th October 2018 and still waiting ,didn't hear anything
Thanks for your reply.. I complaints via email..
complaints@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk. Its very helpful for boost up to take a decision..
Hi,
Thank you for your reply and I used same email address send complaint begin of this month but didn't receive any response yet. that is why I ask you which email you have used . after how long did you get response from them for your complaint.
Hi yesterday i got good news from home office. They grant my claim.. I send a normal complain via my personal email.. Normally they respons within 20 working day and they tell you how much time need to take a decision for your case.. After thats if need they tell you for update documents.. If not they give you decision without uptade document.. I have not a solicitor, i do it myself.. My time line is
Submit documents- 17 feb 2018
Send me a letter for update documents 2 jan 2020
Send me a letter letter for biometric enrolment
Yesterday send me grant letter..
Waiting for brp
Hi,
if you are still in group please tell me did you get your visa within time period they gave you. finally I received response from HO and it was quiet similar response as you got. they said they are aiming to give decision within 6 months.
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by senu14 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:37 pm
Khatoon82 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:14 am
senu14 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:39 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:12 pm
Khatoon82 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:47 pm
Hi
Any updates regarding your application, bio metric letter or any contact from home office ?
I am still in same situation waiting patiently no updates
Hi,
I didn't received anything yet so stressful waiting. two times sent complaint emails but no response either. I seen some people who made a claim this January also received biometric for 7 years basis don't know why it keeping us this long.
hi,
I received an email from MP today. I have contacted MP regarding my application delay after I didn't get response myself but it was not that useful too. HO informed to MP they received recent evidence and being reviewed but HO didn't update him progressing of application only says still being work on it.
Hi thanks for the update ,
Well I did put a complaint in last September and they replied that they will make a decision on my application within next 7 months , just guessing depending on forum experience I think it take about 19 months I think you will receive a biometric letter before end of this month , and then another month for grant . Fingers crossed
Hi,
I received HO response for my complaint today. they said aiming to make decision within next 6 months. what about you. as they mentioned this is 7th month isn't it . did you hear anything
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by rina » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:18 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:33 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:47 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:17 pm
Hi,
Thank you for your reply and I used same email address send complaint begin of this month but didn't receive any response yet. that is why I ask you which email you have used . after how long did you get response from them for your complaint.
Hi yesterday i got good news from home office. They grant my claim.. I send a normal complain via my personal email.. Normally they respons within 20 working day and they tell you how much time need to take a decision for your case.. After thats if need they tell you for update documents.. If not they give you decision without uptade document.. I have not a solicitor, i do it myself.. My time line is
Submit documents- 17 feb 2018
Send me a letter for update documents 2 jan 2020
Send me a letter letter for biometric enrolment
Yesterday send me grant letter..
Waiting for brp
Hi,
if you are still in group please tell me did you get your visa within time period they gave you. finally I received response from HO and it was quiet similar response as you got. they said they are aiming to give decision within 6 months.
Have you both had and have your main interview?
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by Mba88 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:22 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:33 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:47 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:17 pm
Hi,
Thank you for your reply and I used same email address send complaint begin of this month but didn't receive any response yet. that is why I ask you which email you have used . after how long did you get response from them for your complaint.
Hi yesterday i got good news from home office. They grant my claim.. I send a normal complain via my personal email.. Normally they respons within 20 working day and they tell you how much time need to take a decision for your case.. After thats if need they tell you for update documents.. If not they give you decision without uptade document.. I have not a solicitor, i do it myself.. My time line is
Submit documents- 17 feb 2018
Send me a letter for update documents 2 jan 2020
Send me a letter letter for biometric enrolment
Yesterday send me grant letter..
Waiting for brp
Hi,
if you are still in group please tell me did you get your visa within time period they gave you. finally I received response from HO and it was quiet similar response as you got. they said they are aiming to give decision within 6 months.
Yes i got grant letter exactly last day of six month.. They tell me BRP send me via courier service within Ten working day. I am waitng for brp..
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by rina » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:29 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:22 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:33 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:47 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:17 pm
Hi,
Thank you for your reply and I used same email address send complaint begin of this month but didn't receive any response yet. that is why I ask you which email you have used . after how long did you get response from them for your complaint.
Hi yesterday i got good news from home office. They grant my claim.. I send a normal complain via my personal email.. Normally they respons within 20 working day and they tell you how much time need to take a decision for your case.. After thats if need they tell you for update documents.. If not they give you decision without uptade document.. I have not a solicitor, i do it myself.. My time line is
Submit documents- 17 feb 2018
Send me a letter for update documents 2 jan 2020
Send me a letter letter for biometric enrolment
Yesterday send me grant letter..
Waiting for brp
Hi,
if you are still in group please tell me did you get your visa within time period they gave you. finally I received response from HO and it was quiet similar response as you got. they said they are aiming to give decision within 6 months.
Yes i got grant letter exactly last day of six month.. They tell me BRP send me via courier service within Ten working day. I am waitng for brp..
@Mba88 Did you have a main interview?
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by Mba88 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:11 pm
rina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:29 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:22 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:33 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:47 pm
Hi yesterday i got good news from home office. They grant my claim.. I send a normal complain via my personal email.. Normally they respons within 20 working day and they tell you how much time need to take a decision for your case.. After thats if need they tell you for update documents.. If not they give you decision without uptade document.. I have not a solicitor, i do it myself.. My time line is
Submit documents- 17 feb 2018
Send me a letter for update documents 2 jan 2020
Send me a letter letter for biometric enrolment
Yesterday send me grant letter..
Waiting for brp
Hi,
if you are still in group please tell me did you get your visa within time period they gave you. finally I received response from HO and it was quiet similar response as you got. they said they are aiming to give decision within 6 months.
Yes i got grant letter exactly last day of six month.. They tell me BRP send me via courier service within Ten working day. I am waitng for brp..
@Mba88 Did you have a main interview?
I put further submissio, They give me decision based on my document.. They did not take interview..
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by rina » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:27 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:11 pm
rina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:29 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:22 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:33 pm
Hi,
if you are still in group please tell me did you get your visa within time period they gave you. finally I received response from HO and it was quiet similar response as you got. they said they are aiming to give decision within 6 months.
Yes i got grant letter exactly last day of six month.. They tell me BRP send me via courier service within Ten working day. I am waitng for brp..
@Mba88 Did you have a main interview?
I put further submissio, They give me decision based on my document.. They did not take interview..
Wowwwwwwwww!! That is incredible. I pray this happens to me that I don't go for an interview as I am worried about it
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by senu14 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:40 am
rina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:27 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:11 pm
rina wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:29 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:22 pm
Yes i got grant letter exactly last day of six month.. They tell me BRP send me via courier service within Ten working day. I am waitng for brp..
@Mba88 Did you have a main interview?
I put further submissio, They give me decision based on my document.. They did not take interview..
Wowwwwwwwww!! That is incredible. I pray this happens to me that I don't go for an interview as I am worried about it
Hi,
Further submission not always require interview most cases they grant based on evidence. and I didn't get any interview yet. I don't think they will give me interview too because I have submitted all my new evidence and believe they are strong enough to get it.
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by senu14 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:43 am
Mba88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:22 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:33 pm
Mba88 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:47 pm
senu14 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:17 pm
Hi,
Thank you for your reply and I used same email address send complaint begin of this month but didn't receive any response yet. that is why I ask you which email you have used . after how long did you get response from them for your complaint.
Hi yesterday i got good news from home office. They grant my claim.. I send a normal complain via my personal email.. Normally they respons within 20 working day and they tell you how much time need to take a decision for your case.. After thats if need they tell you for update documents.. If not they give you decision without uptade document.. I have not a solicitor, i do it myself.. My time line is
Submit documents- 17 feb 2018
Send me a letter for update documents 2 jan 2020
Send me a letter letter for biometric enrolment
Yesterday send me grant letter..
Waiting for brp
Hi,
if you are still in group please tell me did you get your visa within time period they gave you. finally I received response from HO and it was quiet similar response as you got. they said they are aiming to give decision within 6 months.
Yes i got grant letter exactly last day of six month.. They tell me BRP send me via courier service within Ten working day. I am waitng for brp..
Hi,
Thank you for your response and hope you might received your BRP card now. may I please know did you have kids involve your case. my evidence based on British child plus 7 year resident child
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by rina » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:00 am
@senu when they ask for further submission, what kind of evidence do they ask? Wouldn't you have provided it already when you initially applied?