Document checklist - what else do I need?

[magicsign]

I believe that even a Computer Science degree for example should be considered as professional qualification.

[CR001]

NOTE TO ADMIN: Please do not merge my threads, although it regards same issue, I keep on asking different options, my last thread was left without answer because of merge.

I am keep coming back to square one. When I thought I got a ref turns out it wouldn't be accepted.

So what about Engineer (with professional qualifactions)

I know a solution delivery engineer (IT branch) would he qualify? He isn't a member of any professional body but got professional qualifications.

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An IT engineer doesn't qualify

[AnotherUUID]

I believe that even a Computer Science degree for example should be considered as professional qualification.

No, this is incorrect advice.

An Informatics graduate - which includes all Informatics disciplines such as software engineering, computer science, data science, artificial intelligence, etc, etc) - is not automatically a professional regardless of the level of their degree (e.g. undergraduate, post-graduate, or PhD).

People working in an Informatics discipline (e.g. IT/software engineer/developer) are only considered professional if they also have an affiliation with the British Computer Society (BCS) and they are either:

• Chartered (CITP or CEng); or
• Associate member (AMBCS)
• Professional member (MBCS)
• Fellow (FBCS)

An IT engineer doesn't qualify

They do qualify. But only as explained above.

[AnotherUUID]

So what about Engineer (with professional qualifactions)

I know a solution delivery engineer (IT branch) would he qualify? He isn't a member of any professional body but got professional qualifications.

I doubt they will qualify w/o BCS membership, as the accepted BCS levels of membership are clearly stated on the list of accepted professions.

Can you explain what professional qualifications they have? It would help to give us a better view.

Most 'professional' IT qualifications - insofar as the meaning of professional is concerned in this context - would have been qualifications approved and issued by the BCS or BCS-authorised third party in which case it is likely that some level of BCS membership would have been necessary in order to undergo said qualifications.

[Djsuccess]

So what about Engineer (with professional qualifactions)

I know a solution delivery engineer (IT branch) would he qualify? He isn't a member of any professional body but got professional qualifications.

I doubt they will qualify w/o BCS membership, as the accepted BCS levels of membership are clearly stated on the list of accepted professions.

Can you explain what professional qualifications they have? It would help to give us a better view.

Most 'professional' IT qualifications - insofar as the meaning of professional is concerned in this context - would have been qualifications approved and issued by the BCS or BCS-authorised third party in which case it is likely that some level of BCS membership would have been necessary in order to undergo said qualifications.

From a recent experience of someone I know, an IT Engineer was accepted as a referee. Although the 2 refs provided were Engineers and both British Citizens.

[AnotherUUID]

From a recent experience of someone I know, an IT Engineer was accepted as a referee. Although the 2 refs provided were Engineers and both British Citizens.

Well... I can't say I'm surprised but in the end nobody really knows how HO actually do checks and where they exercise discretion and to what degree apart from what we have in the guidelines. I have heard (from not so reliable sources) that some people were granted citizenship with 2 British referees and an explanation that they do not really know anyone of professional standing.

Given the official guidance, I would say that's a small sample size to rely on. It's up to OP to decide whether they'd should risk it. In either case it's best to have a "back up" referee in mind in case HO are not satisfied with a "non-professional" IT Engineer and want another referee.

[Djsuccess]

From a recent experience of someone I know, an IT Engineer was accepted as a referee. Although the 2 refs provided were Engineers and both British Citizens.

Well... I can't say I'm surprised but in the end nobody really knows how HO actually do checks and where they exercise discretion and to what degree apart from what we have in the guidelines. I have heard (from not so reliable sources) that some people were granted citizenship with 2 British referees and an explanation that they do not really know anyone of professional standing.

Given the official guidance, I would say that's a small sample size to rely on. It's up to OP to decide whether they'd should risk it. In either case it's best to have a "back up" referee in mind in case HO are not satisfied with a "non-professional" IT Engineer and want another referee.

perhaps the reason the example I cited went through successfully was because the second referee was a Manager in a big company but the profession was Environmental/chemical Engineering.

[Pan13]

I am doing application online.

The online one is just like a paper version of AN application. And it asks for a lot of details addresses and so on.

However

When you conclude your application it asks you to download 2 forms which only requires signature, full name and date.

Which should I use?

[Pan13]

I got already a reference letter from employer stating that I work for him for the last well, 'double digit' years.

Do I still need to include P60s?

I only have P60s from 2016-2019 so 4 of them. Will that suffice or the reference letter itself will work?

Thank you

[Pan13]

EU national

I got passport to prove my nationality and identity + Permanent Residence Card done in 2017 + Settled Status in Feb 2019.

Got letter from employer confirming last 13 years + P60s, some college certificates as well.

2 referee declarations, LIUK, Trinity SELT.

Is there anything else I forgot about?

[Zerubbabel]

Sounds about right.

Fill the form online and at the end, you will see a check-list of documents you need to submit for your particular profile.