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Actually, you can - the following webpage gives advice on how to do this in the UK via a 'declaration of parentage:'
For Ireland this requires birth certificate re-registration. As BrexitEscapee pointed out, OP's mother need to cooperate. However in some cases if the mother refuses to cooperate, there are legal means to pursue this. Ireland is very keen in making sure that every child has the right to know their parents. I am sure if the OP contacts with relevant authorities, the matter will be resolved albeit with lots of paperwork. If you really want to do so, it can be done.BrexitEscapee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:47 pmActually, you can - the following webpage gives advice on how to do this in the UK via a 'declaration of parentage:'
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/special ... s-13849625
However, it looks like the OP might have an insurmountable problem if his mother won't play ball.
I don't think you read what you linked to there, it says quite clearly: It is also necessary to prove that the deceased father is the biological father of the child. This is usually achieved by using a scientific test i.e. DNA testing to determine parentage. And the biological mother here is not the legal mother (the adopted mother is) and would likely not have standing in court to apply. Even if she did, she is a US resident and appears unwilling to apply to an English court anywayBrexitEscapee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:47 pmActually, you can - the following webpage gives advice on how to do this in the UK via a 'declaration of parentage:'
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/special ... s-13849625
However, it looks like the OP might have an insurmountable problem if his mother won't play ball.
When I read the following in the OP's post, I'd assumed it meant he had DNA evidence that his biological father was Irish:Granista wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:14 pmI don't think you read what you linked to there, it says quite clearly: It is also necessary to prove that the deceased father is the biological father of the child. This is usually achieved by using a scientific test i.e. DNA testing to determine parentage.
It looks like my always-shaky English comprehension has let me down here - perhaps you could explain what the OP actually meant by the above?
Thanks for all your expertise here - I'm sure the UK Govt will also be surprised to find out that they've made a mistake in their published guidance by specifically stating that the 'declaration of parentage' process is specifically aimed at 'natural' parents, rather than adoptive parents. (I must confess: I made this mistake too, as I'd always thought that only natural parents, and never adoptive parents, were ever mentioned on the birth certificate.) Perhaps you could review this erroneous official advice and explain to them that natural parents have no standing to apply. I'm sure they'd be grateful for your expertise:
There are 12 accredited labs for testing DNA for use in UK courts. I've looked at a few at random and they all seem to have made the same mistake: they all claim it's more difficult, but still possible, to prove paternity through living relatives when the father is dead - especially if the mother is still alive. Here's one example:Granista wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:56 pmDNA tests between members of the alleged fathers family and the OP are no help here. The only test that could be done is a dna test of a living alleged parent and the OP, in person, at a lab accredited by the British Courts for the purpose at hand. The alleged parent is not living, ergo no possible DNA test can be done, ergo no change of birth certificate.
As always you make a very good point here and I'm chastened by your admonition. It was reckless of me to keep encouraging the OP like this:
Okay, cards on the table. I've been having a bit of fun at your expense here, but there's a serious point to all this: Those of us who've been helped by the information available on this forum ought to feel a duty to provide help to others - or at the very least, not to hinder them. Whilst I tend to agree with your assessment of the OP's chances in this case, your contribution to this thread has been an ever-changing litany of misinformation about this legal issue. If this misinformation went unchallenged, someone else might have stumbled across this thread and given up on an FBR application when it may well have had a chance of being successful.BrexitEscapee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:47 pmHowever, it looks like the OP might have an insurmountable problem if his mother won't play ball.