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The OP is apparently a BC and moved to Ireland to use the EU route to bring parents from abroad. This application has failed. Parents don't appear to have any legal status in Ireland.Zerubbabel wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 1:11 pmHello
Are you a visa national? Do you intend to enter as a visitor?
@CR001 - I think you are too fast in making your own judgements. I am not expecting this from a moderator to begin with.CR001 wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 1:23 pmThe OP is apparently a BC and moved to Ireland to use the EU route to bring parents from abroad. This application has failed. Parents don't appear to have any legal status in Ireland.Zerubbabel wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 1:11 pmHello
Are you a visa national? Do you intend to enter as a visitor?
Parent proved independence by applying for a UK visitor visa to only facilitate their entry to Republic of Ireland before submitting an application to remain in the state based on dependency. Classic case of trying to circumvent the UK immigration rules which we all know Ireland is fully aware of as Ireland and the UK share all immigration data.
ireland/refusal-for-eu4-review-process- ... 54022.html
I am a British Citizen and living with my parents in Ireland. Moving back to UK and intend to apply under EUSS scheme and parents have valid UK visit visa but havent got Art10 yet as the application is pending (2nd app)Zerubbabel wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 1:11 pmHello
Are you a visa national? Do you intend to enter as a visitor?
As per EU Settlement Scheme, applicants resident in host country before the brexit date of 31 Jan 2020 can still return and file the application. Obie is referring to people starting fresh now and not those already residing in the EU countryCR001 wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:37 pmRead Obie's comments regarding Surinder SIngh route no longer being possible since 31st January 2020 in the thread below.
eea-route-applications/surinder-singh-i ... l#p1895880
Unfortunately you havent granted me access to Private Messaging thinking that I am randomly generating posts whereas you can see that my 55 posts are not random at all and mostly on a set topic.CR001 wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:37 pmRead Obie's comments regarding Surinder SIngh route no longer being possible since 31st January 2020 in the thread below.
eea-route-applications/surinder-singh-i ... l#p1895880
A life event triggers a change in circumstances, that's not unusual. You have got the statistics with you on this one.My parents did apply for UK visa but they have done that several times in the past. It just so happened that this time when they applied for the UK visa, the circumstances changed between arriving in UK and moving to Ireland.
On a personal level, I understand you. Your parents are old / frail / ill, you want to bring them to the UK where they receive a better care. You did what many sons would have just done. Your planing wasn't perfect. But please don't beat yourself over that. No mater how you do it, no mater the country, immigration policies are never supportive to elderly people immigration. You can check any point based immigration system for any country that has that and you will see that from 45 years old, the age of the applicant becomes a serious impediment.3- before travelling to UK, they decided to sell the property and managing the rental part was not possible due to poor health. Afterall they are above 75 yrs of age and "fully managed by agency" concept does not exist there. This is where the rental income no longer existed
Thanks for taking time out to check the previous posts in detail.Zerubbabel wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:49 pmA life event triggers a change in circumstances, that's not unusual. You have got the statistics with you on this one.My parents did apply for UK visa but they have done that several times in the past. It just so happened that this time when they applied for the UK visa, the circumstances changed between arriving in UK and moving to Ireland.
However, with administrations (all of them), change of mind / circumstances is not really valued.
Imagine I obtain a construction permit from a local council to build a 2-story house. Then, during the construction, I get an inheritance and now I would like to go up to 3 floors. Can I just go and do it with the same permit? I don't know any administration who buys into any "change of circumstances" argument. Otherwise, anyone can apply under any available route then claim change of circumstances later.
I read your initial post:
ireland/urgent-help-needed-eu4-appeal-r ... 96538.html
and here also:
ireland/refusal-for-eu4-review-process- ... 54022.html
The change of circumstances that is hard to justify, is that your parents sold their property before leaving their country to come to the UK on a visitor visa. You will have hard time convincing the Home Office that they came in as genuine visitors.
On a personal level, I understand you. Your parents are old / frail / ill, you want to bring them to the UK where they receive a better care. You did what many sons would have just done. Your planing wasn't perfect. But please don't beat yourself over that. No mater how you do it, no mater the country, immigration policies are never supportive to elderly people immigration. You can check any point based immigration system for any country that has that and you will see that from 45 years old, the age of the applicant becomes a serious impediment.3- before travelling to UK, they decided to sell the property and managing the rental part was not possible due to poor health. Afterall they are above 75 yrs of age and "fully managed by agency" concept does not exist there. This is where the rental income no longer existed