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Thanks for the reply! I have used the checker and it states that I'm entitled to Irish citizenship but my parent(s) needed to register on the FBR before my birth. My mother registered for the FBR in the early 2000's after my birth in 1985. Since I can not register via FBR but can show descent/associations for multiple generations, I figured maybe I'd have a shot with naturalization.DanaMarie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:57 amYou may be able to apply for citizenship by descent, right? I can't say for sure with the information you provided because it depends on when your mother was registered and when you were born. Have you used the checker here to see? http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/ci ... th-descent
"To become an Irish citizen, your great-grandparent's grandchild (ie your parent) who is of Irish descent must have registered in the Foreign Births Register between the years 1956 and 1986, or if you were born after 1986 they registered before you were born."
PasadenaTom wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:57 pmThe relevant section of the law states:
16.—The Minister may, if he thinks fit, grant an application for a certificate of naturalisation in the following cases, although the conditions for naturalisation (or any of them) are not complied with:
(a) where the applicant is of Irish descent or Irish associations;
... (There are other conditions specified that I don't think apply here).
In the margin of that text it says
"Power to dispense with conditions of naturalisation in certain cases."
It appears to me that the minister has been given discretion under the law to waive all of the conditions of naturalisation if he sees fit, as long as some other conditions (like Irish associations) are met. What that means in practice for the average person with Irish associations, I don't know. Will the minister use this provision freely for most applicants with Irish associations? Or will it in practice be reserved for limited cases? I don't know. I suppose if you were a football player or other celebrity, or have performed a valuable service for the state, your chances would be greater. And it probably would help if you showed an intent to live in Ireland. But those are just my opinions.
You can always apply with a statement that you would like the conditions waived, provide your documents showing Irish association, and see what happens. It would cost €175 to apply, which is less than the fee for the Foreign Birth Registration applications. But keep in mind that this is different than Foreign Birth Registration. You would be applying to become a naturalised citizen. In the event you were approved, you would probably need to pay the €950 certification fee required and attend a naturalisation ceremony. So it's not too expensive to apply. But to complete the process will be a lot more.
I too am curious if anyone has been successful taking this approach. I've had my FBR for a year. That means my children (who are in their 20s) are not eligible for FBR. So if they were interested in citizenship, this would be their potential route to it.
Sorry, I have not heard anything new about my case. COVID isn't helping. Have you heard anything regarding your case?handoubleu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:06 amI applied under these exact same circumstances November 2019 - great grandmother was born galway, my grandmother received her citizenship under a different law, and then my mother received hers under FRB but filed after I was born. I was wondering if you heard anything for your application?
Rats. I was hoping you might been approved since you applied before me, and I saw that some people who had applied in the summer and autumn of 2019 were invited to the March ceremony. I should note that, although I applied this route, I have now been living in Ireland for over a little over a year. I received a letter in mid-March stating they were processing my application based on my Irish Associations, but I haven't heard anything since then. I saw they were working from home during covid lockdown, and I saw a very old post of a guy who applied this way after residing in Ireland after only two years, so I try to be optimistic!blm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:48 pmSorry, I have not heard anything new about my case. COVID isn't helping. Have you heard anything regarding your case?handoubleu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:06 amI applied under these exact same circumstances November 2019 - great grandmother was born galway, my grandmother received her citizenship under a different law, and then my mother received hers under FRB but filed after I was born. I was wondering if you heard anything for your application?
Do you mind telling me how you were able to live in Ireland? Work permit/Critical skills? Best of luck with your case! Please keep me posted. I'm determinedhandoubleu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:42 amRats. I was hoping you might been approved since you applied before me, and I saw that some people who had applied in the summer and autumn of 2019 were invited to the March ceremony. I should note that, although I applied this route, I have now been living in Ireland for over a little over a year. I received a letter in mid-March stating they were processing my application based on my Irish Associations, but I haven't heard anything since then. I saw they were working from home during covid lockdown, and I saw a very old post of a guy who applied this way after residing in Ireland after only two years, so I try to be optimistic!blm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:48 pmSorry, I have not heard anything new about my case. COVID isn't helping. Have you heard anything regarding your case?handoubleu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:06 amI applied under these exact same circumstances November 2019 - great grandmother was born galway, my grandmother received her citizenship under a different law, and then my mother received hers under FRB but filed after I was born. I was wondering if you heard anything for your application?
Work permit! I haven't much time left on my permit though so I was hoping to go this route. However, I have seen elsewhere that Irish Associations can take considerable time. Still, I hope to hear something in the next few months- if anything! have you heard since you applied?blm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:20 pmDo you mind telling me how you were able to live in Ireland? Work permit/Critical skills? Best of luck with your case! Please keep me posted. I'm determinedhandoubleu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:42 amRats. I was hoping you might been approved since you applied before me, and I saw that some people who had applied in the summer and autumn of 2019 were invited to the March ceremony. I should note that, although I applied this route, I have now been living in Ireland for over a little over a year. I received a letter in mid-March stating they were processing my application based on my Irish Associations, but I haven't heard anything since then. I saw they were working from home during covid lockdown, and I saw a very old post of a guy who applied this way after residing in Ireland after only two years, so I try to be optimistic!blm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:48 pmSorry, I have not heard anything new about my case. COVID isn't helping. Have you heard anything regarding your case?handoubleu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:06 amI applied under these exact same circumstances November 2019 - great grandmother was born galway, my grandmother received her citizenship under a different law, and then my mother received hers under FRB but filed after I was born. I was wondering if you heard anything for your application?