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okay and do you think the stamp in the passport wouldn't suffice to show that you do have a valid visa for Ireland?littlerr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:53 pm1. If you lost it in Ireland, you will need to apply to GNIB for a new one; if you lost it in a foreign country, you will need to obtain a visa from the embassy before you are allowed to travel to Ireland.
Airlines will not allow you to board the plane if you do not have either a visa or an IRP card. Even if you manage to get on the plane, the immigration officer might send you back without a valid permission document.
The only exception is that if you are availing of the EU Treaty Rights. The officer cannot blindly turn you away if your immediate family is exercising EU Treaty Rights. However, the airline can legally deny you from boarding.
2. No. You will still need to apply to GNIB. Your stolen card legally becomes invalid when you report the loss to the police, so you must re-register with GNIB. You can ask them not to issue you a new card if you already have an approval letter (and the GNIB officer may waive the 300 euro charge if they are in a good mood).
Yeah, below is what I got from the GNIB Office when I contacted them. They are closed due to CV-19. Feels like I'm fully stuck in this situation.littlerr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:21 pmI know it’s bureaucratic craps, but no, airlines are asked to accept only certain documents. Stamps in the passport aren’t one of them. (It’s much easier to forge a stamp in your passport than a visa or an IRP card.)
You might be able to convince the citizenship office, but I wouldn’t try my luck on that. If they don’t accept your stamp, then you probably won’t have enough time to get an appointment with GNIB and you will probably miss the ceremony.
On the other hand, it is by law that you need to hold an IRP card at all times (again I know nobody does it), so you are by law obliged to get a replacement at the earliest opportunity.
Yeah, I think you are right. One of my close friends also had a similar incident as you have described. In his case, airline understood the issue, but immigration caused a little bit of problem. So it's either the airline or the immigration that might cause some issue. But eventually he was let travel.griffith wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:07 amGnib card is a registration certificate not a visa nor an ID card.
In case if the Gnib card is lost or stolen the passenger can travel with their visa stamp but they would need a police certificate.
Airlines do ask for a GNib card but stamp may suffice.
The only hassle is explaining the circumstances to the staff.
I am saying all this because once i travelled without a Gnib but i had a police certificate that my wallet is stolen.
Check-in staff were not easily convinced but immigration were but eventually i was able to travel.
That is not correct. You can travel if you have a visa sticker, not a stamp (and it's not a 'visa'). Per Irish government's policy (and similar EU-wide policies), you must have either a visa sticker or a registration card if you are a visa-required national.
Agree. I had identical situation last year only. Lost my GNIB card in Germany, and got a police report (if that's what you're referring to as police certificate). My airline was happy to accept it and so was Irish immigration officer who just said as long as you're on our system and have a valid passport and police certificate you're fine. Had a copy of the lost card as well, but nobody asked for it.griffith wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:07 amGnib card is a registration certificate not a visa nor an ID card.
In case if the Gnib card is lost or stolen the passenger can travel with their visa stamp but they would need a police certificate.
Airlines do ask for a GNib card but stamp may suffice.
The only hassle is explaining the circumstances to the staff.
I am saying all this because once i travelled without a Gnib but i had a police certificate that my wallet is stolen.
Check-in staff were not easily convinced but immigration were but eventually i was able to travel.
This part of the response doesn't make any sense. Embassies will not issue visas to residents with valid Irish residence permits. Re-entry visas have been discontinued and the only documents that are required for non-EU residents to enter the State are valid Passport and IRP card. Passport is the main identification and travel document, while the IRP card is the proof of the right to reside for whatever purpose the individual is residing in the State for.
That's true, except that many people are in the situation where their IRP cards are expired, but are auto-extended for 2 or 4 months.
Q7: I left Ireland and was unable to return before my Irish Residence Permit expired – what should I do?
A. If you are a visa-required person and have an Irish Residence Permit (formerly GNIB card) which expired after 20th March 2020 and before you were able to return to Ireland, then you will have to make a new on-line visa application. However, you should contact your nearest Embassy or Visa Office to confirm what if any supporting documentation is required. To check if you need a visa, visit the following webpage:- http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/check-irish-visa
if you are a visa required national, in the absence of a valid Irish Residence Permit (IRP) card, you will need to obtain a new visa prior to your return.