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I still don't see your point of being allies, john. The uk and usa might have been on the same team for several wars but the US and the UK are still competitors in other respects. As for people from the EU having an easier time. Well of course they do, they are participating in a cooperative effort called the EU and those are the benefits of that effort. Why should allies trump a current cooperative effort? And look at the results, the EURO is killing the dollar, and the dollar. Well moving on.jjohnmichael4u wrote:sorry for stepping on yer thread andrew. i dont recall myself saying i deserved any preferred treatment or the red carpet because i was american. yeah allies! and guess my point bein there is that we have been allies for many years yet someone from poland,france or any part of the eu has an easier time at stayin here than me. what irritates me most is when someone says to go home...this is my flipping home now!! just not my soil. unfortunatly the word home isnt defined as such under immigration laws. not gona fight the h.o on this because all it was was a waste of time when i did it before. i will go back to sort it.
again andrew goodluck and feel for you. unfortunatly there isnt a box for common sense on any of the applications ive seen other than go home.lol
tc bub
Andrewg33 wrote:in this case i think common sense should prevail
Sadly, common sense doesn't really enter into it. And I am having trouble seeing why common sense should prevail when, as others have pointed out, you broke the rules and continue to argue that the UK should just let you stay.jjohnmichael4u wrote:unfortunatly there isnt a box for common sense on any of the applications ive seen
Sorry it is an option. Because the option to stay and fight costs more money and takes a very long time. Thus the better option is to return home at the fraction of the cost than it would to stay and fight and it will be over in a nanosecond compared to the long wait the HO will put you through if you stay. So many people have told you from their experiences, they got themselves sorted quickly when they returned home. What is so terrible about taking a flight to the usa and submitting an application there. No one is on their high horse but you. And you guys don't make sense because you clain you have not enough funds, then how do you plan to pay for the solicitor? It is more than the application and the plane fare. And his wife better leave soon or she will be too far along in her pregnancy to travel.jjohnmichael4u wrote:andrew i think we are in both the same boat. what ive not heard from anyone on this other than go home is how we go about winning a case against the home office. fighting them is most likely not the right thing to do but an option many might not have a choice in. being complacent is not always the right thing to do in my oppinion. so i think people should get off there high horse and find andrew a solution other than send her home, get a loan etc, as this doesnt seem to be an option for andrew. not everyone is fortunate to have deep pockets. myself i take responsibility for bein an overstayer and am fortunate enough to have some spare room on my credit card to be able to go back to the states before oct. in sayin that andrew from what im hearing this ban will not apply to family members or spouses. so even if you were able to manage the funds after oct, you may be in the clear. dont quote me on that though. another route andrew and one im not sure on is for your wife to maybe contact the u.s. consulate here in the u.k. maybe there is some kind of aid she can get to return by bein a u.s. citizen. worth a shot anyways. will let you know if i find any real solutions for you m8.
I am going to refrain from commenting further on this thread, since you've pushed me over the edge in terms of patience and sympathy. YES, it's expensive to live here. Most of us struggle to afford it. Hearing you bang on about how 'there must be another way' is starting to feel like a slap in the face. I must be a (rich) chump for forking out all that cash in spouse visas, etc.Andrewg33 wrote:So i guess that is us stuffed mate,we will have to go in to hiding for years to protect our GENUINE family love for one another,we have been married for years and have a 4 year old boy and another kid on the way but yet we are expected to get thousands together to get things right when we cant save and just get by the way it is.
Many people are genuine families who love one another....but at the end of the day your wife broke the law!our GENUINE family love for one another,we have been married for years and have a 4 year old boy and another kid on the way but yet we are expected to get thousands together to get things right when we cant save and just get by the way it is.
I think this will be my last comment on this thread. The reason people suggest that those in these types of situations to return home to re-apply is because that is the quickest, easiest, and in the long run, probably chapest option. It also offers the best chance for a sucessful result. By all means, anyone is free to apply from within the UK while out of status, but you'd be better off flushing the £750 down the loo. Not to mention any type of appeal would probably require specialist advice, and solicitor fees will easily run up to be much higher than the cost of applying from one's own country.just want to jump in here one last time. i will admit when i am wrong. and i was wrong in saying for everyone to get off there high horse because everyone is here genuinly trying to help andrew. unfortunatly republique i dont think andrews wife will have much option other than to stay and fight. so we need to find him a solution other than what has been suggested. but hey if u want to get in a tuff about it because others have varied oppinions than be my guest.
The Chikwamba case offers another option for overstayers wishing to apply for leave in-country, and has a very interesting conclusion (in my opinion). It involved a failed asylum seeker from Zimbabwe who had married a refugee (also from Zimbabwe) and had a child with him. She applied for leave from within the UK, citing Article 8, right to respect family life, and was refused, and was told to apply from Zimbabwe. She appealed twice, and was refused twice, and her final appeal was won. So, in this case, it is possible to successfully apply in-country as an overstayer/non-legal resident, using Article 8. However, consider the following;jjohnmichael4u wrote:so i think people should get off there high horse and find andrew a solution other than send her home, get a loan etc, as this doesnt seem to be an option for andrew. not everyone is fortunate to have deep pockets.