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Re: ILR for wife - 5 yrs route - new or exisitng service

Post by zimba » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:46 pm

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hello Zimba,

We simply did not have a need to renew passport also renewing passport from the UK is not straightforward.

also, there was an issue with the name that is supposed to appear in the passport.

and we thought it is not needed as her case is fairly straightforward so she might well as get a British one.

What I did not know was having a valid passport is mandatory for ILR. because when I applied the application forms do not require the applicant to have a valid passport.

when did this change pls? and where can I see it is situated in the immigration rules and if ppl had been rejected on the basis of expired passport only, can you provide links and how I can mitigate against this pls.

This is what I urgently require now.
That is quite a poor judgment on your part. She is still a foreign national in the UK and must ensure to hold a valid passport at all times. The rules have always required a foreign national to have a valid passport when they apply for a visa application. This is also the case in every other country
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Re: ILR for wife - 5 yrs route - new or exisitng service

Post by n8net » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:00 pm

well, but it is also possible for passports to expire...so I take it nobody has been rejected just because of that.

we were just being positive that no issues with her BC, so renewing the passport seemed like a lot of trouble for not much benefit.

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Re: ILR for wife - 5 yrs route - new or exisitng service

Post by n8net » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:14 pm

Hi all,

just to confirm SET (M) form can only be submitted via online these days right ?

also, I normally also read the 'guidance notes' to understand the documents required etc which are normally next to the form on Gov website. (https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-setm)

but could not see any now - could somebody point me to it pls.

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Post by seagul » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:20 pm

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just to confirm SET (M) form can only be submitted via online these days right ?
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also, I normally also read the 'guidance notes' to understand the documents required etc which are normally next to the form on Gov website. (https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-setm)

but could not see any now - could somebody point me to it pls.
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Post by CR001 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:20 pm

Yes online only.

You will get a checklist at the end of the process. It is all the same type of evidence you submitted for FLR m extension plus B1 English and liuk.

Archived set m guidance notes below.

https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov ... -form-setm
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Post by n8net » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:31 pm

thanks guys.

one thing I notice is the online does not ask for 'passport size pictures'?

also how do I send all these docs to them when application is made online pls?

also for national ID, she does have one, with no validity (expiry date) , but not in English? should I get is translated in the Uk and if so where ?

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Post by arjay » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:58 pm

You are not currently required to send any photos. Though that may change in view of the difficulties with the biometric appointments

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Post by AmazonianX » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:59 pm

n8net wrote:
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thanks guys.

one thing I notice is the online does not ask for 'passport size pictures'? Not needed, her pictures will be taken during biometrics appointment.

also how do I send all these docs to them when application is made online pls? On completion of filling online application, you will be directed to create an account via HO partner's website and on which you will upload the scanned copies of all required documents.

also for national ID, she does have one, with no validity (expiry date) , but not in English? should I get is translated in the Uk and if so where ?

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Post by n8net » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:35 pm

oh..I need a scanner...or would photos from mobile camera will suffice ?

so I get to create this account with external party only after paying £2.5k correct ? and how long do I have to send the docs and which is considered as a the 'application date' ?

reason is my wife's visa expired on 15th, so do not want her to be overstayer and if it requires scanning I need to organize this.

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Post by CR001 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:44 pm

oh..I need a scanner...or would photos from mobile camera will suffice ?
Photo is fine as long as the whole document is visible and legible.
so I get to create this account with external party only after paying £2.5k correct ?
Yes.
and how long do I have to send the docs
Must be uploaded before biometric appointment.
and which is considered as a the 'application date' ?
Date of application is the date you submit and pay online and NOT the biometric appointment.
reason is my wife's visa expired on 15th, so do not want her to be overstayer and if it requires scanning I need to organize this.
She must apply online before her visa expires.
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Post by n8net » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:36 pm

thanks a lot for cr001.

any idea how I can use the ID which is not in English pls - want to use it as her passport has expired.

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Post by n8net » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:45 pm

Hi all,

I have compiled the list of docs needed

her docs
- expired passport
- biometric

my docs
- Declaration
- British passport
- Bank statements
- Letter from employer
- 6-month payslips
- P60


our docs
- 1 letter/bill water company in our join names
- 1 letter/bill from enegry company in our joint names
- 1 letter/bill from the electricity company in our joint names
- 1 letter from the council in our join names
- tenancy agreement on joint names


Pls let me know if I miss anything. also, some questions
a) do the bank statements on official headed papers or online pdf is fine?
b) Do I need a letter from the estate agent in addition to tenancy agreement
c) the online application portal also tells us to attach 'evidence of housing costs' - what shall I attach for this?

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Re: ILR for wife - 5 yrs route - new or exisitng service

Post by n8net » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:35 pm

any update guys?

at least if somebody point me to topics of ppl applied SET(M) via online ?

another thing I notice is no marriage certificate required?

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Post by seagul » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:43 pm

n8net wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:35 pm
any update guys?

at least if somebody point me to topics of ppl applied SET(M) via online ?

another thing I notice is no marriage certificate required?
Marriage certificate still be needed to upload.
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Post by n8net » Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:44 pm

ok thanks, what abt these pls?

a) do the bank statements on official headed papers or online pdf is fine?
b) Do I need a letter from the estate agent in addition to tenancy agreement
c) the online application portal also tells us to attach 'evidence of housing costs' - what shall I attach for this?

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Post by n8net » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:17 pm

answering y own questions.

b) and c) is preferred but not needed....so the only remaining item is the age-old one.

do the bank statement needs to be on official papers with stamp etc?

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Post by n8net » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:22 pm

any update pls guys ?

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Post by CULLINAN » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:01 pm

Online versions are fine.
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Post by n8net » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:52 pm

thanks all, I hv now made the application as usual on the last day of visa expirty...

now the page tell me I hv 6 months to book an appointment, but I am keen to get this done asap.

but no avaiabulity closer to where we are...is that normal ? should I keel checking ? any other alternatives ?

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Post by CR001 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:38 pm

As has been answered 100s of times on the forum, there are delays with biometric appointments and they are dealing the the applicants in the date order that they have applied, currently May applicants. So you will be in for a bit of a wait. There is no other alternative unless UKVI deem your spouse eligible to reuse previous biometrics and you are specifically emailed about your eligibility, but not everyone qualifies for this.

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Post by n8net » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:53 pm

thanks cr001..sorry I am not aware of these delays and this whole online and send documents later is new to me.

my wife will not be eligble for this as her visa expires today.

so, I just stay put and wait for UKBA to contact me ?

and I have time till then to sort out my docs ? I had scrmabled last few days to collect all this without knowing I hv as much as 6 months to do..thought had to be done within 14 days for some reason.

if it's May only, I can even get her passport renewed and meet the only issue with her expired passport - 2 months should be enough to get it renewed.

is that advisable?

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Post by seagul » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:36 pm

n8net wrote:
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so, I just stay put and wait for UKBA to contact me ?

and I have time till then to sort out my docs ? I had scrmabled last few days to collect all this without knowing I hv as much as 6 months to do..thought had to be done within 14 days for some reason.
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Post by n8net » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:49 am

ok, so renewing the passport while I wait for a slot is out of the questions then.

I hv pretty much all the docs now and hopefully before too long we will get a slot.

if they are processing only those in May for now, reasonable to assume, we are not gonna have a slot for next two months ?

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Post by n8net » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:13 pm

so guys let me get this straight.

so the process nowadays is to
a) submit the online form
b) book an appointment with UKVCAS
c) keep uploading the docs
c) go to UKVAS and give the original documents and figer print

hv I understood this correctly ? the questions I have are

1) isn't there a cut off time to do c) - within 28 days of application date of a) ?

2) is there any topic on tis forum on what happens at UKCAS center, is only applicant allowed ?

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Post by CR001 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:48 pm

n8net wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:13 pm
so guys let me get this straight.

so the process nowadays is to
a) submit the online form
b) book an appointment with UKVCAS
c) keep uploading the docs
c) go to UKVAS and give the original documents and figer print

hv I understood this correctly ? the questions I have are

1) isn't there a cut off time to do c) - within 28 days of application date of a) ?

2) is there any topic on tis forum on what happens at UKCAS center, is only applicant allowed ?
Presumably for the last point you mean d) and not c). For d) there is no 'give the original documents' step. Nothing original is submitted anymore.

c) You must upload your documents BEFORE your biometrics appointment.

You can accompany your spouse under normal circumstances. However, there might be restrictions on entering for the applicant only due to the pandemic. All that happens at the centre is that her biometrics are taken and her identity checked against her original and valid passport. Then she leaves. Nothing else.
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